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Tears, commotion at massive haredi protest
Shmulik Grossman
Published: 17.06.10, 19:41
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1. True face
Brod ,   USA   (06.17.10)
2. Grab a cold drink, watch the Hilul Hashem Show!!!
Brian Cohen ,   Judean Peoples Front   (06.17.10)
Get ready for it, folks - live on your tv sets, tens of thousands of Jews with no Torah studying to do are taking to the streets! Watch them chant, watch them sway! Watch them burn garbage bins and throw rocks. Yes, it's the Hilul Hashem Show!! More than enough sinat hinam to sink a ship... or destroy a Jewish homeland! Rabbis ready to poskin that there are two Torahs from Sinai - one for Ashkenazim and the other for Sephardim! The Levite shall serve the Cohen, but if you want your Sephardi kid to go to my vus-vus school?!?!? OY VAYZMIR!!!!! You'ze a gonna get a rock through some poor Jewish cop's skull so I can prove my point that Jews treating other Jews as equals is NOT IN MY HALACHA!!! Make sure you have extra bags of ice and stocks of your favorite mehadrin-min-mihadrin snacks, cuz this show might go on for a few days yet...
3. "Any haredi would be willing to go to jail" GOOD
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (06.17.10)
4. There is "ethnic" separation in Israel.
Steve Klein   (06.17.10)
In the early nineteen eighties, I stayed in a Jerusalem yeshiva for a couple or so weeks. Ashkenazi Jews (Ashkenazim) and Sephardi Jews ate separately in the cafeteria. I would sit and eat with Sephardi Jews. One young man asked me why I would eat with them instead of the Ashkenazim? What is this? We are not all Jews? There is indeed "ethnic" separation in Israel between Jews. Why?
5. High Court is a dictatorship!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
eradicate the left   (06.17.10)
6. #2 what choice do they have?
Joseph ,   Israel   (06.17.10)
The mitnahalim are peaceful, so Yassam beat them and arrest their little girls. The Bedouins, Druze and Arabs are violent and riot, so the police leave them alone. The Haredim have learned what the High Court and police mean when they say "Rule of Law" .
7. So, let me understand something...
Talula ,   Israel   (06.17.10)
These selfish bastards are going to cause traffic jams of biblical proportions for the rest of us who are on our way home from a hard weeks WORK so they can protest about the High Court’s ruling to jail two racist parents? – It’s not a ruling by some kangaroo court, the ruling was handed down by the highest judicial instance in the land. The Haredim are continuing to make a mockery out of this country and no-one is doing anything about it. Aren’t members of the Knesset worried about how the secular society is going to react? Do they even care as long as we are all out slogging our guts out to pay tax and support the State. Makes me feel nauseous enough to want to vomit over the lot of them. There’s going to be a civil war here, and it’s going to be soon.
8. quite funny
aharon ,   uk   (06.17.10)
come on ashkenazi's - be a light unto the "nations" - whats wrong going to school with less religious pupils? the whole point of being around godless/secular pupils is so you can fulfil Gods wish - which is to BE A LIGHT UNTO THE NATIONS! teach the sephardis - why they should seek God. To be honest - you have to be Christ like in this situtation. you dont see Born Again Christians/Messianic Jews - only around "religious" people. Youve got to go out into the WORLD and give them the message of hope and salvation through the Elohim of Yisrael and his Son. Shalom, Salaam, Peace
9. GREAT time to get rid of the self-elected vicious judges
DOWN WITH THE ,   HIGH COURT   (06.17.10)
who stick their dirty nose into things they have no business with and are out to destroy Judaism and Israel. HASHIVAH SHOFTEINU KEVARISHONA
10. A fight between the Kedusha and Sitra Achra(-high court)
DOWN WITH THE ,   HIGH COURT   (06.17.10)
11. The Kiddush Hashem of the century!
Wow! What a ,   Kiddush Hashem!   (06.17.10)
12. THE RELIGIOUS ARE KILLING THE JEWISH DREAM
stude ham   (06.17.10)
israel cannot survive religious fundamentalism...
13. DISTORTION as usual from Ynet
m   (06.17.10)
It has nothing to do with Sephardi Ashkenazi differences, there are a quarter of Sephardi in the midsts of the parents who oppose. It has everything to do with the RELIGIOUS STANDARD of this school which is lower than what they perceive their children should receive. Who can expect from Hight Court or the secular media to understand? Then they make out of it a rift between Sephardi/Ashkenazi, this they understand. (No censoring this time, eh?)
14. let them take thier lives in their own hands...
Dana Rothschild ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (06.17.10)
stop giving them money.... let them pay the national insurance, health care and the study allowances.... and law, which relate to me, must relate to them in the same strictness.... there is no place for a state within a state....
15. Men of Principle
Jay A Friedman ,   Ranana ISRAEL   (06.17.10)
They are all men of principle. Accordingly - They will not again take one agora repeat one agora from the State; They will resign from tjhe productive jobs they now have in eucation, industy, agriculture, etc. -- even if it means losing thousands and thousands of shekels in salaries. They wiill refuse to continue to constantly report to Miluim when called (alwyas the first to report -- (haven't you heard of the Slonim Rifle Company??) If that doesn't work -- they will leave the country!!!!
16. Israel in black? is it the wailing wall or the income taxes?
observer   (06.17.10)
17. racists
f ,   Israel   (06.17.10)
do we really need enemies outside of the Jewish people? We can't even stand ourselves!!! Shame on you prejudiced and hypocritical "ultra orthodox " Jews...
18. Haredim in Brooklyn are the same
USA   (06.17.10)
They are holier than thou Jews.
19. The real place of prejudice!
Attorney at law ,   Jerusalem   (06.17.10)
The courts, the elite of the army, the elite professors, the political elite-that's the real prejudice against Sefardim. Leave the religious alone. Who is the court to decide on these matters- just self-hating lost Jews.
20. Haridim go to work
Johnny ,   Nazareth   (06.17.10)
We all work in Israel. What kind of nonsense is this ? People get money without working!! We sane people of Israel are demanding this : 1)Stop giving money to Haridim. 2) No family financing after the third child. 3) Haridim must study what we study in schools without excuses. 4)Haridim must serve the country. In Israel there are laws, laws MUST be applicable to every citiizen without excluding anyone. You don't like it, go live in elsewhere.
21. TIME FOR ELECTIONS FOR THE HIGH COURT!
stop the ,   dictatorship!   (06.17.10)
22. Hey Joseph #6 - Here's the choice they do have!
Brian Cohen ,   Judean Peoples Front   (06.17.10)
They can choose not to practice sinat hinam and to have their Jewish kids go to school with other Jewish kids. The most certainly do have a choice - live by the law of Torah from Sinai, or go out and riot and do hilul Hashem. My kids here in the hills of Judea go to a religious school where ashkenaz and sephard sit and learn side by side and are taught by both ashkenaz and sephard teachers. We don't care where their parents are from, just that they are good and qualified teachers for our kids and teach Torat Moshe to the Jews. All the Jews. Like I said, these people are teaching sinat hinam - and if the law of the land is that they go to jail for it, then so be it. They do indeed have a choice. They choose to riot.
23. Religion vs. Law
Barbara ,   Haifa Israel   (06.17.10)
To Shimon Naimi - why don't you babysit your sisters and brothers - you are old enough for it. To # 7 and 14 - wholeheartedly agree with your talkbacks.
24. Israel's future
Resistor   (06.17.10)
Jew against jew. I love it. Just sit right back and watch Israel self-destruct. No need for AJ's nukes to do the job?
25. #12
Muko   (06.17.10)
What is the "Jewish Dream"
26. blame ROTSCHILD.
avi   (06.17.10)
27. 65,000 charideem take the day off work
Avi ,   israel   (06.17.10)
OOOOPPSS sorry i forgot they dont acutualy work , serve in the army or contrribute anything to the state. naturally they suppor the law when it comes to giving them out hadouts of our tax money to fund this life style of theirs. If they want civil war then bring it on cant wait !
28. to #24 that is disgusting not to send someone to school
ghostq   (06.17.10)
just because the school got someone from certain background, those religious pagans deserve jail.
29. #13: "Distortion?"
Steve Klein   (06.17.10)
You wrote: ".... the parents who oppose. It has everything to do with the RELIGIOUS STANDARD of this school which is lower than what they perceive their children should receive...." It does not look good. Maybe I am missing something. Maybe I am all wrong (wrong-headed) about this. Perhaps you can prove me wrong. I do not too often quote from our Bible. The Jewish prophet wrote about it. Many Jews have been guilty of it down through the centuries. I know I have been guilty of it. This does not make it right: 'A people who continually provoke Me to My face......."Who say, 'Keep to yourself, do not come near me, For I am holier than you!' These are smoke in My nostrils, A fire that burns all the day'. (Isa chapter 65)
30. Not Cultural - Ideological
Reuven Brauner ,   Raanana, Israel   (06.17.10)
The issue here has nothing to do with ethnicity, culture or even religion. It is ideological. Should the law of the land be Jewish, i.e. based on Torah Law or should it be based on some other system or set of principles, i.e. not-Torah? The courts of the State of Israel, by and large, have ignored traditional Jewish Law and have opted for modern, Western, Christian-based, secular legal precedents and attitudes. When Jewish Law and secular law converge, as they will on occasion, no one complains. But when the secular court system attempts to bully Jewish Law, those who are true to the validity and authenticity of the latter push back. If the High Court was smart, it would accept upon itself the secular war--cry of separating religion from state and back off. Sadly, it isn't all that smart.
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