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Ayalon: Gazans are provided for
Roni Sofer
Published: 01.07.10, 14:06
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1. What are we thinking of?
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (07.01.10)
Gaza is no longer our sustenance problem. Let their brother Arabs look after them. I, for one, think it is a spectacularly bad idea to worry about the care and feeding of people who maintain a violent and aggressive posture towards Israel. Lock 'em down. Let them eat the sand out of their vaunted tunnels. Surely Egypt -- an ARAB state -- will come to their rescue. Right? If not right, how is that Israel's fault? Seal the borders. Hermetically. Now.
2. I guess the people in Nepal...
Carsten Schmidt ,   Germany   (07.01.10)
...and Bangladesh would love to have a neighbor that would send in supplies. Actually poverty and living conditions are much worse in these countries than in Gaza. Yet, nobody cares. The biggest problem in the world seems to be that the Gazans get enough chocolate and cigarettes.
3. Humanitarian
Daniel ,   UK   (07.01.10)
"The only humanitarian incident in Gaza is the imprisonment of Gilad Shalit" Because according to Ayalon Shalit is the only human in Gaza, the rest are just Arabs.
4. Bring Gilad Back home
Mark ,   Jerusalem   (07.01.10)
I think Israel is crazy, they should make a total blockade, cut off water and electricity until they release Gilad Shalit, never mind what the world thinks of us, we have to look after our own. Bring Gilad back alive and well.
5. Just one question...
PartialObserver ,   USA   (07.01.10)
How many trucks with supplies are coming from Egypt? Let me guess...
6. Sarah #1
Resistor   (07.01.10)
Why nor seal your mouth hermet[cally-now!! Alyon and you don't have a clue about the req[ world. Maybe you should both look for planet Zion!
7. not ordinary import, but forced one
observer   (07.01.10)
and it is paid for in advance by countries other than Israel.
8.  I gree with you but
sam ,   colorado   (07.01.10)
TO Minister Ayalon I gree with you but you are forgot another something there is another humanitarian case, there is-8000 prisoners in Israeli jails in inhumane conditions firstly should get them out before talking about of Gilad Shalit
9. Hey, Stupid,
Noor ,   Palestine   (07.01.10)
your country is the and has been the belligerent occupier of Gaza for 43 years now! Of course you are responsible for protecting the people of Gaza! Belligerent occupiers are responsible for the well-being of that territory it is occupying as well as the people living inside that territory! It's called the law. Your comment is absurd, once again.
10. :: What trite!
Matty Groves ,   Fairport   (07.01.10)
This is just an exercise is hasbara to misrepresenting facts and figures and avoid the fact that Israel has been collective punishing (a war crime) the civilian population of Gaza for 4 years. Note the word ‘recently’, obviously Ayalon doesn’t want to discuss the situation before Israel was ‘recently’ forced to relax its inhumane siege on Gaza. I doubt that Ayalon mentioned that Israel only allowed transfer of shoes and clothes for the first time in March of this year, will not mention this fact as if he did he would have to explain why Israel *refused* to allow these ‘non-military’ items into Gaza. Except of course the universal right to freedom and self-determination. Funny how Dangot omits the fact that it was Israel who prevented the transfer of building materials into Gaza for four years? The collective punishment of the people of Gaza by Israel is recognized worldwide and not amount of weasel words from Israeli officials will change this fact.
11. :: Sarah BS’s wishful thinking
Matty Groves ,   Fairport   (07.01.10)
As usual Sarah BS is wrong and shows her ignorance on International Law. The Hague Conventions of 1907 (Hague IV Article 42) clearly states: “Territory is considered occupied when it is actually placed under the authority (power) of the hostile army” Clearly the IDF exercises its authority over the costal waters off Gaza by preventing shipments of aid, it also exercises its authority over Gaza air space by imposing a no-fly zone, it the IDF who exercised its authority imposed a ‘buffer zone’ inside Gaza, we also see the IDF/IAF exercising its authority to conduct incursions and aerial attacks anywhere in the Gaza Strip. As a belligerent occupying power Gaza and the people therein are a ‘problem’ for Israel regardless of Sarah BS’s weasel words. If Israel wants to free itself from the very restrictive rules of belligerent occupation in the Fourth Geneva Convention then it should relinquish full control of the Gaza Strip (and the WB/E Jerusalem while it is at it). Until such time as this happens Gaza is Israel’s problem.
12. what did they answer?
martine ,   ashdod   (07.01.10)
Mr Sofer, your article is one sided, I mean you said what Mr Ayalon or Dangot said, but what those ambassadors said? What did they see? Misery? or they agree to open wide their eyes and ears and see the truth... the truth said by Mr Ayalon : Israel sends every goods and equipments gazaouits need since hamas steals them. hamas want to make sure that the occidental nations see what he wants them to see and he's a champion to twist the truth. I just hope that those men in their soul and conscience will see the truth.
13. "Gazans provided for".....but Shalit not(end)
DT ,   TA Israel   (07.01.10)
14. not so 'difficult' choises....
tiki ,   belgium   (07.01.10)
Israel should STOP whining and complaining! It has 2 choises: 1) To STOP delivering 'goods/foods/ electricity/water, etc., to the enemy, with the high 'probability to be 'scolded and accused by the 'descent WORLD of 'inhuman and terrorist behaviour, OR ....... 2) to CONTINUE to be the 'idiot of the ME by PROVIDING goods/foods/ electricity/water etc., and be 'scolded and accused of 'inhuman and terrorist behaviour 'anyway!
15. :: Mark - #4
Matty Groves ,   Fairport   (07.01.10)
Do you mean that you want to recreate the conditions of the Warsaw Ghetto in Gaza?
16. What did they answer?
David ,   UK   (07.01.10)
Open your own eyes and face the truth that Hamas is the cause of the Gazans deprivation. No way is it caused by Israel. Truth is the truth which the 70 Ambassadors have now been shown. They were never interested before, were they? "There are none so blind as those who do not want to see"
17. :: Noor - #9 - ?
Matty Groves ,   Fairport   (07.01.10)
Hmm, its hard to tell who you are directing your comments to as the terms “Stupid” and “Absurd” can easily be applied to any number of Ynuts who have posted on this thread or to the Israeli officials mentioned in the article itself! :)
18. and before 43 years ago?
nadav   (07.01.10)
Who controlled Gaza? Who were the people living in Gaza? - That's right, EGYPTIANS! you painted yourself in a corner with you talkback! Let Egypt take care of them or take them back, enough feeding enemy!
19. these laws are incorrect
nadav ,   tlv   (07.01.10)
First of all, Israel is NOT a signatory to the Hague conventions of 1907, so that is a mute point. Second of all, Gaza was NOT either an independent state or part of an independent state in1967 but rather a disputed territory under EGYPTIAN jurisdiction, i.e. Egypt is responsible for Gaza's welfare - NOT Israel. Finally, a military blockade of Gaza, which is legal under the San Remo Convention, clearly gives the right to Israel of blockading Gaza; Israel is in fact NOT occupying Gaza, it is simply blockading an enemy entity. Your objective is deliberate disinformation- but not everyone is a naive Leftist or anti-Semite to believe your propaganda!
20. love your enemy
Carlo ,   Philippines   (07.01.10)
...and do good those who hate & persecute you. it's time to show the gazans and the rest of the world that you are not a monster as they expect. remember your a holy nation, a peculiar people.
21. :: ‘nadav’ - #19
Matty Groves ,   Fairport   (07.01.10)
By joining the UN Israel is bound by its Charter, the UN itself adheres to and supports international laws including the Hague conventions of 1907 thus Israel is also bound by these same laws. The UN Charter also contains a supremacy clause that makes it the highest authority of international law and the International Court of Justice in The Hague is the principal judicial organ of the United Nations as per Article 92 etc of the UN Charter. In short by joining the UN Israel is bound to international laws REGARDLESS if Israel has signed up to individual laws or not. To quote: "Membership in the United Nations is open to all other peace-loving states *which accept the obligations contained in the present Charter* and, in the judgment of the Organization, are able and willing to carry out these obligations". Is that simple enough for you? Really? In that case show me ‘documented evidence’ of which parties are in ‘dispute’ over this territory and that the territory is still under Egyptian jurisdiction? We are not talking about the 4 yr old Israel military blockade of Gaza but good try in deflecting the subject matter. We are talking about the decade old Israeli occupation of Gaza (and the WB/E Jerusalem). You are a minority voice compared to the global international bodies (US State Dept/IRC/NGO’s/UN/EU/etc) all of whom consider Israel to be in belligerent occupation of Palestinian land. To sum up: Israel, according to international law(s) which Israel accepted when it joined the UN is the occupying force in the Palestinian territories and as such has clearly defined obligations under international law.
22. have enough supply from Egypt
observer   (07.01.10)
Our Torah, the most beautiful achievement of the spirit, the charter of humanity, was given to us on Mt. Sinai, land of Egypt..
23. 1#TO Sarah B sweet
sam ,   colorado   (07.01.10)
What are we thinking of? OK it Is Good question Say to your government to end its blockade over gaza and opening all crossings Question is so easy but the answer is easier with all love Sam
24. Ayalon - Believe him at your own Peril
shoshanna ,   Toronto   (07.02.10)
Sarah B. We already Hermetically sealed the borders which lead to the home-made rockets that are fired from Gaza and the dangerous situation that exists there today. We did this after we said that we had withdrawn from Gaza but you see, we really did not. What we did was take out all Jews and seal their borders, destroy their only airstrip, and block their harbour. retain Israeli ownership over Gaza borders, airspace, all coastline and waters and cut a corridor between Gaza and Egypt controlled by Israel so that Gaza was completely under the control of Israel, was subject to attacks by the idf and iaf while the Gazans kept the cease fire. It was Israel that broke the cease fire and refuse to replace it. While Israel is in keeping Gaza in a state of siege it is in fact still Occupying it, therefore it is Israel's responsibility to feed the civilian population of Gaza not kill nor ethnically cleanse it, nor ask any other people to do so. Because Neighbouring countries speak the same language as the Palestinian People this does not make them their responsibility. We Israelis and Jews took Palestine for ourselves and need to allow Palestinians to have their state, in fact, we need to stop this BS now because if this continues we will lose everything. We owe the Palestinians a thankyou for giving us a homeland, and get out of the way so that they can have their own. You need to stop your hatred towards them and start directing it towards those who have really harmed our people not those who have historically helped and guarded us. I find your attitude so amazingly ignorant of our history that is is shameful.
25. To Sarah B
Llyn ,   Toronto, Canada   (07.02.10)
Why do you think that because countries that speak Arabic should automatically be responsible for taking care of one and other when it is another country that is causing the crisis (Israel)? After all, Most Israelis speak English, at least most settlers do, so why not just send all settlers to an American State like maybe Alaska or any other that would want them, after all, of all the Middle East's residents it is Israel that is the most problematic at the moment and has been for the past 62 years. It would be much better to remove the source of the conflict and return to a much more peaceful environment in the region for everyone. In particular, the Ashkenazi who are in Israel do not fit in at all and wish only to make Israel part of Europe-this would not be so if you truly were Jews returning home, for Israel never was part of Europe.
26. # 24
Birdi ,   Israel   (07.02.10)
There is one Israeli in Gaza, his name is Gilad Shalit. Israel NEVER broke the ceasefire. Israel gave Gaza back to the Palestinians. No more Jewish land needs to be returned & SHAME ON YOU for talking such rot. Whats the "we" business? you may be Jewish, but you live in Canada & its very easy for you to tell us what to do when it does'nt effect you.
27. #7
Birdi ,   Israel   (07.02.10)
Where does it say that Israel must deliever the "stuff" to Gaza?
28. # 8
Birdi ,   Israel   (07.02.10)
8000 pallie prisoners in inhumane conditions in Israel jails ?? you are WRONG. Thoses prisoners are allowed visits from the Red Cross. Gilad is not. Those prisoners are allowed visits from their families Gilad is not. Those prisoners are allowed to make phone calls & recieve their lawyers. Gilad is not. Those prisoners are allowed to study in prison. Gilad is not. Most of those prisoners have blood on their hands. Gilad has not. Your post is totally out of order & unaceptable.
29. # 25
Birdi ,   Israel   (07.02.10)
You think by removing all the settlers Israel's problems will be over ? Not at all. Hamas & the Palestinians want ALL the Jewish land, yes they want ALL the land of Israel. Any idiot can see this.Read their charters. I am an Ashkenazi Jewess, born & bred in Israel.I AM AT HOME. I "fit in" perfectly & I do not wish to make Israel part of Europe. What daft ideas you have. As long as the Arabs play the victims, there will never be peace in this area. As long as the Arabs want to drive us Israelis into the sea, there will never be peace in this area. So be it.
30. #29 never fit in
observer   (07.02.10)
Yahweh breaks into a huge rage whenever his chosen people flirted with a rival god. Joshua convened the elders and chiefs of the Israelites and exhorted them to have no fellowship with the native population because it could lead them to be unfaithful to God.
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