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Giving Judaism new meaning
Yoaz Hendel
Published: 06.07.10, 15:26
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31. Avi , 26 . Always NO answer
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (07.07.10)
And it's the correct question that i asked . "god" for believing people protects his people , rewards those following his rules . Millions of believbing people were rewarded , in the gaz chjambers . 1.5 million innocent babies and children receivefd the same "reward" . Where was man ? i never said that "man" will protect the Jewish people , nobody believes it . So where was "man" ? a no question ...not related .
32. Charles, come on !!
avi   (07.07.10)
if man doesn't believe in man, who will ? If you don't believe in G.d, why put the guilt on him ?? God wowed not to destroy humanity (rainbow covenant with Noah) but neither to save it against its will !!! best
33. Avi , i don't believe in A man
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (07.07.10)
in the way you believe in a "god" . I'm not putting the guilt on your "god" , try to read what i wrote . For me this "idea" does NOT exist , but you , or your alikes ,pretend that your "god" protects his people , that "he" loves his people , that "god" rewarded the people with the creation of the State , that withjout him we would never have been victorious in our defensive wars .
34. Avi , read my # 31 , and try to understand
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (07.07.10)
35. 24 - actually jews discount you
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (07.07.10)
jews, from secular to religious, think you are a fraud and nuts. i only happen to agree with them. look at your irrational, nonsensical rants - shtuyot. (by the way, since you can't read, my friend was converted with the compliance of the orthodox. his future father in law paid them for a "quickie" conversion. go back and try to read, unless you are deliberately being deceitful)
36. 27 - these are talkbacks, not 'war
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (07.07.10)
ánd you people take it WAY too seriously.
37. the diversity of talkbacks
us guys   (07.07.10)
reffered not to pakid what or who ever that is, but to 1) look at meeeee i'm chiloneee( yes madam we really really do know that and couldnt care less) 2) Gd never sank lowa than in the Showah ( you are just so boring) Poor pakid always attacked.
38. 37 . sooooo stuuuupid
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (07.07.10)
why write when you have NOTHING to say ? you want to be ridicule ? OK , you are , poor us guys .
39. to 24 . # 13 is only obsessed with your dishonesty
Bar ,   Israel   (07.07.10)
40. 37 - "poor pakid" lol !!
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (07.07.10)
yeah, the poor lawsuit-threatening, minority-hating, angry pakid lol!
41. 27 : one Jehovah guy to a yeshu one
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (07.07.10)
a nice pair indeed .
42. NR 36.
Arn. ,   SWEDEN.   (07.07.10)
SURE TING !!!. THAT MEANS YOU ARE NOT SERIOUS, NEITHER DO YOU UNDERSTAND SPIRITUAL THINGS. IN THE SPIRITUAL WORLD, THERE IS EITER RIGHT OR WRONG, LIGHT OR DARKNESS, GOD OR EVIL, AND NOTHING IN BETWEEN. IF YOU HAD ANY SPIRITUAL EXPERIENSE, AND HAD STOOD FOR IT AND SUFFERED FOR IT, YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND. BUT NOW - MY TALKBACK NR 22 SEEMS FOR YOU THEN. SURE I CAN BE GENTLE REGARDING MY NEIGHBOUR, BUT REGARDING THE TRUTH, THERE WILL BE NO COMPROMISE. Arn.
43. 42 - ??? um, translation please
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (07.07.10)
can i have a translation of what you are talking about? makes absolutely NO sense. does it upset you that i freely and happily discuss ideas i don't agree with and not regard it as a life or death matter?
44. #14, Israel reborn in 1897? Not quite.
Jake ,   USA   (07.07.10)
Zionism has been alive since the 1850's, I know this history very well. But Zionism wasn't confronted with a 5-army assault until 1948, when the state of Israel was re-born. It's hard to deny that the Israeli victories in 1948 & 1967 were anything short of a miracle.
45. NR 43.
Arn. ,   SWEDEN.   (07.07.10)
can i have a translation of what you are talking about? makes absolutely NO sense. SURE THING !!!. THAT IS WHAT I HAVE WRITTEN TO YOU - YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND AND YOU CAN NOT EITHER BECAUSE OF LACK OF EXPERIENCE. does it upset you that i freely and happily discuss ideas i don't agree with and not regard it as a life or death matter? mike , israel (formerly usa (07.07.10) HE - !!! THE ONLY ONE UPSET HERE IS YOU. TRY TO DISCRIMINATE BETWEEN ME ON THE ONE HAND, AND THE TOPIC ON THE OTHER. YOU WILL FIND NO OFFENCE IN ME PRIVATELY, BUT ONLY IN THE TOPIC. BUT SUCH THINGS AS THESE CAN NOT BE EXPOLAINED TO SUCH PERSONS AS YOU, EVEN THOUGH I DID, YOU WOULD NOT UNDERSTAND, BECAUSE OF YOUR LACK OF EXPERIENSE AND THEREFORE INSIGHT. OR IF I WOULD HAVE EXPLAINED IT SIMLE AND STRIGHT, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN LIKE THIS - JESUS SAYS - "DO NOT TREW YOUR PEARLS TO THE SWINES, THAT THEY WILL TRAMPLE THEM DOWN, AND THEN TURN ON YOU". Arn.
46. 45 - you can't explain?
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (07.08.10)
what you cannot show, you do not know.
47. Charles is right
JDE ,   Boston, USA   (07.08.10)
The problem of evil, as exemplified by the Holocaust, stands as refutation of God's existence - and if such a God does exist, he's obviously of no use to us. The religious always try to dodge this issue and to dismiss those who raise it. They have two millennia of rationalizations, and no answers.
48. 44 , Herzl : in Basel i laid down the
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (07.08.10)
base of the State of Israel . Miracles : There were no miracles , only victories obtained SOLELY by our soldiers . In 67 , it was the IAF that shattered all the enemy aircrafts , due to their abilities and great planning .
49. am , 45 & others #
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (07.08.10)
"people" not sure about their ideas need to write with capitals . And hold your jossele for your church , not on a Jewish site . We don't need you .
50. Truth has no label - "conservatism" is NOT secular
Josh   (07.11.10)
I like (sarcasim) the approach of this article to take a label of conservatism and apply it as a defamation tactic to head off the american conservative movement (or converts) who are trying to defend our people against cultic-like extremists that separate and demonize our own people. The people they describe being "filled up" in this article (as usual) mentions nothing about Torah or G-d. Anyone noticing the lack of Torah? Anyone? The weak and vulnerable looking for meaning are most often the target of extremists because the sudden influx of acceptence by the perpetrator rides a wave of false joy and wishful thinking on the victim. The so called embracer is high like on drugs and is really not paying attention to the hooks of racism bigotry, lies, and trickery that dig deep into the flesh. These of course are all anti-Torah. Righteousness is not found in possession by energies, spirits or any other forbidden magic incantation. This is true of any religion. ""The haredim refer to the seculars as "captured babies" – Jews with no Judaism within them who are like empty vessels from the moment they entered the world,"" This sums up it all. Your either inside the group or your worthless. A damaged baby. What mother could love such? Our G-d made babies that were empty? Is this Torah? Certainly it is not. It only makes those in the cult look at those outside and run back under the wings of the leader. They see invisible boogy men even in babies? I am disgusted by the article and the cages that are built for the mind of those few Hebrews who are too uncaring to see the difference between a book written by a prophet and one written by a liar law breaker. Devarim 13 is the true test of whether one is filled up inside or lacking love for G-d. The words of a sect of Christian cultist sound no different. Open to the truth that some things distant from true Torah are traps. If you dont hear Moses'words from the first person quotes in context, you must listen to the purpose of this other a'lien and highly unauthorized teachings. No adding! Dev 4:2 lhayim!!! o lmavet? tivhoroo!
51. 50 , don't talk about "our people"
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (07.11.10)
you don't belong to the Jewish one , you are only a faske convert , go to your [ and paqid's ] cvhurch where you can adore your yeshu
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