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In praise of immigrants
Asaf Gefen
Published: 10.07.10, 13:56
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31. #26 Smith - The Sudanese
Schreiber   (07.11.10)
I share your concern for the persecuted or famished non-Jewish people of the world. But now we have the blessed United Nations. They, through their UNHCR, their Refugee Agency, can gather them, feed them, take care of them, and relocate them in another country that suits their cultural and religious needs. This applies to any non-Jew - except Arabs who fled Israel and who are still rotting in refugee camps all over the Arab world, thanks to the very same blessed United Nations.
32. # 14 Labor
J.K. ,   Brooklyn USA   (07.11.10)
Marcella ! the reason why the Democrats in the US, and labor in England want mass immigration,is very clear,votes,because new immigrants vote for the left ,but they are wrong, in time the US will become another Mexico,corruption,violence,kidnappings drugs,in England sharia will rule,the Republicans in the US are also interested in mass immigration,because a Mexican is paid $ 8 per hour,compared with an American who is paid $ 15-20 an hour, but the cost is much higher,given the fact that the Mexican woman is giving birth to 4-5 children which is paid by the state for hospitals,than schools and welfare, so the Mexican worker is being paid around $ 50 an hour,many pregnant Mexican women cross the border to give birth in an American Hospital, concerning multiculturalism,in England only 1 cuture will dominate,islam.
33. Asaf Gefen
J.K. ,   Brooklyn USA   (07.11.10)
Asaf is right ,people can live without food, water, education,but they can't live without soccer,just give them soccer and they don't need anything else,as the Romans said just give the masses bread and circus an they'l be happy,this soccer business can drive people crazy too,like the young boy who almost killed his friend in a dispute as which contry should win the game,otherwise,soccer is the best thing ever invented.
34. To: No. 25
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (07.11.10)
Then why not ban the tune, too? Besides, all the German tourists in the pub sang along .... "uber alles" was loud and clear, honey. Loud and clear. Oh well. Must be something about the Germans, I guess. Or they didn't know that those words are banned. Not likely. You tell me. Sad, really.
35. Purity of Arms
zichron   (07.11.10)
The time will arrive when the peoples will be able to destroy only the guilty murderers and not the innocent. But it is far. Until then each land must offer asylum to those fleeing death and destruction.
36. immigrants?..NOT!
tom ,   tel aviv   (07.11.10)
In these times of "multi-culti" with the obvious results (as seen in Europe) to claim the things this article does, is a sign of either un-comprehensible stupidity, provocation or clear anti-israeli, left-lunatic agenda. Take your pick !
37. So we wont be in the world cup- WAAAA
Ryan ,   Netanya   (07.11.10)
Quick somebody get Asaf Gefen a new topic to write about, because this one just wasted all of our time. Seriously, he should definately do more research about Israel adopting foreigners. We actually do a good deal of it. We have a great culture of all different people from around the world. From the point of the world cup, so we wont be in it in 30 years, so what there are more important things to worry about. Anyway if its in Dubai, its not like they would let us in to participate. Someone wrote that Muslims are taking over Europe, ah they are expanding to every country in the world.
38. What don't you understand about "illegal"???
Paqid Yirmeyahu ,   Ra'anana, Israel   (07.11.10)
The U.S. southern border and huge illegal alien population, along with its drugs and violent crime, demonstrate how intractable illegal immigration becomes if not curbed early. For Israel, it also represents assimilation and implosion of a Judaic state. We can, perhaps, go to school on America's mistakes here. You're right on the mark that the root cause is economic and the most effective remedy begins with businesses who hire them and addressing economic remedies. Unions have developed into hindrances to every remedy in the US--and would here as well. But I think you're also right that an enforced minimum wage, along with attention-getting fines for hiring illegals, would be very helpful. On the flip side, at peril of being attacked yet again (as if I couldn't weather another storm), I'd like to see these illegals afforded an opportunity, if they wish, to learn Torah and convert. Anyone in the world who wishes to learn and keep Torah can do so. Those who make that choice, IMO, should be afforded the opportunity to convert and then live here legally. I know someone who has been teaching them basic Hebrew and the impression I've gotten from discussions is that these are simple people with no fervent religious commitments of any kind, Muslim or otherwise. Their religion--and most were Christian--was simply the culture and society in which they lived. Their motivation is simply surviving, not crusading for Christianity, Islam or any other religion. They could be taught the value of Torah. It seems to me that is our greatest failure. Paqid Yirmeyahu Paqid 16, The Netzarim, Ra'anana, Israel Israeli Torah-reverer (Teimani, Baladi, Dor Daim, Orthodox Jew) Advocate for Logic as Hermeneutic Halakhic Authority Welcoming All Torah-reverers (Jews & non-Jew geirim)
39. Eutopian dream
tejas ,   india   (07.11.10)
We want immigrants? why? To win soccer. That would be the most stupid deal throughout the mankind's history.
40. Terry #15
Raoul ,   Herzlia Israel   (07.11.10)
I agree with Terry, Eilat. What on earth has sport got to do with ILLEGAL immigration?
41. Article about illegals, NOT immigrants !!
avi   (07.11.10)
42. dishonesty, disinformation, and lies
nadav ,   tlv, israel   (07.11.10)
what troubles me about these illegals is the lies that their Leftist supporters are employing in their "defense". The author and others like him deliberately spread disinformation, lies, and base their "facts" on disingenuous information and are completely intellectually dishonest when discussing the issue of illegal immigrants. For starters, they claim that these people are refugess, which they are NOT. They claim that only 1800 illegal children is a small number that we can aborb- they fail to mention that these kids have illegal parents, who if allowed to stay, can invoke international laws to allow them to bring their entire extended families to israel, which is exactly how they swelled their numbers in Western Europe. These supporters of illegal immigration dare to make comparisons to jewish attempts of immigration before, during, and after the Holocaust, but fail to mention that the British mandate and Balfour were made to create a refuge for Jews in Israel which the British later reneged on because of Arab pressure. Finally, these Leftists claim that anyone against illegal immigration is a racist. Well, I am no racist or bigot, I believe Israel is a Jewish state and should not be forced to take in unwanted illegal immigrants fleeing from economic troubles. Australia, Italy, Spain, France, and the UK maintain interim camps for illegal boat migrating immigrants, which is far more inhumane than anything Israel has done. On the contrary, Israel allows these illegals to settle in the heart of its cities and gives access to its medical and educational system. Enough is enough, there are those like me who know the truth and the real facts and will NOT allow Israel to be inundated with illegal immigrants!
43. #37 The French soccer team Asaf loves was a disaster
Schreiber   (07.11.10)
in this last world competition. They disgraced themselves and went home in shame. So much for multiculturalist soccer.
44. Jews just to be guests too
Megan ,   Jerusalem   (07.11.10)
Jews just to be unwelcomed guests in many places for centuries. I was thinnking that who if not them should understand others in this desparate situation. To send away immigrant's children is disgraceful. As a olah hadasza I am embaressed for my new country.
45. for #38 a 'legal' conversion is one you can get away with
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (07.12.10)
just ask him, he's done it.
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