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Settlers, have you no shame?
Rafik Halabi
Published: 12.07.10, 11:02
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1. Halibi is out of line with his stereotyping.
Brian Cohen ,   Judean Peoples Front   (07.12.10)
Rakik Halabi is guilty of stereotyping. "The settlers"? Most of us "settlers" think that the whacko low-life jerks who spit on the Druze soldiers are just that: whako low-life jerks. Halabi gives them too much credit, but then, that is a common fault of the media for decades now. As an experienced veteran professional journalist, Halabi should know better. Nobody goes around saying that "the Druze" have no shame for those Druze who actively support Syrian dictator Assad. Halabi should have recognized that a radical fringe group distributed the leaflet. We settlers generally don't go around bath mouthing the Druze. We don't expect the Druze to go around bad mouthing "us" either. We proudly fight and die beside our Druze brothers in battle. In civilian clothing we go our separate ways and within our own communities there are wide differences of opinion. Halabi might have done better to point out that all those official bodies who claim to represent "the settlers" (the self-appointed Yesh Council, the various right wing political parties) should be speaking up loudly and clearly with their condemnation of the unacceptable behavior. This settler from Judea most certainly does.
2. Peki'in riot by Druze in 2007
Ilan ,   Ariel   (07.12.10)
Several orders of magnitude more serious than anything alleged to have been done by Jews in Judea and Samaria. It should be noted that the border police have many complaints lodged against them for excessive force and good number of convictions too despite the tendency of the Israel police to forgive and forget
3. Rafik Halabi ! Who was Fired by IBA!
DAVID ,   JERUSALEM ISRAEL   (07.12.10)
IS YNET BECOMING THE NEW "HAARETZ" RAFIK HALABY WAS FIRED BY ISRAEL BROADCASTING FOR STAGING "THE INFAMOUS RAVIVO , EXTREMIST SETTLER UNDERGROUND MOVEMENT" HE SET IT UP DICTATED TO THEM WHAT TO SAY WHEN UNCOVERED HE LEFT OR WAS FIRED IN DISGRACE HIS BLIND HATERED OF "SETTLERS" IS LEGENDARY AS IS HIS HATE OF THE JEWISH STATE.HIS HATEFILLED BOOKS TRANSLATED INTO GERMAN EVEN .
4. To Mr. Halibi
Ricardo Macher ,   Karnei Shomron IL   (07.12.10)
Nobody denies how much the Druze have done for Israel, nobody can discuss that you serve your country with loyalty and pride. There is only one question, why does IDF choose specially Druze and other ethnics to do the dirty job in Yesha? Should you have the same approach that the rest of IDF soldiers, nobody would insult you. More than that, you understand, better than anybody else, that when somebody just for political reasons wants to kick you out of your land, your father's land you are not thinking about politeness nor political correctness but about how a brother can expel a brother!
5. Yes, the settlers have no shame
Salma ,   Palestine   (07.12.10)
And Druze, who serve the "Israeli" army also with no shame. SOME Druze are well-known that they are side with whoever is in control!! thank god,today more Druze young men refuse to serve in "IDF" ,these people deserve all the respect, either those who are still looking for this shame,say to them, wake up before it's too late!! To Rafik Halabi: The settlers are dealing in this way even with the Jewish soldiers, why are you upset?! you should taste the bitterness of service "Israel" as you tasted it's ”sweetness" Sahteen w Hana !
6. You the Author is also a hate clown in disguise
prince ,   Niger Delta, Nigeria   (07.12.10)
Why condemn the whole Jews in westbank including those who protect you in the idf by generalization. I believe the strength and respect of Israel is borne by the Jews in Westbank and with strength and anarchy (which the world now respects) will serve as a buffer for the inhabitant of the mainland which you call Israel while the Arabs call you all Settlers. Be a visionist rather than foolish leftist
7. Druze land? Druzestan? send them packing
Ron ,   Israel   (07.12.10)
8. What kind of BS this is
David ,   USA /ISRAEL /EGYPT   (07.12.10)
Settlers are not just against Druze, it is nothing personal. Settlers retaliate against the type of force the state uses against them. remember Amona the bashing of their heads, the trampling of their bodies with horses, No country in this world uses this kind of force against their people. So don't complain when they defend themself. When it comes to the settlers your propaganda tries to turn things around and make them look like aggressors. Why don't you use some of that tender care when your secular left raises hell in east Jerusalem for a change
9. No. No shame!
Ussishkin ,   Tel Aviv Israel   (07.12.10)
The settlers have become the sting in our eyes and the thorn in our side. Shame isn't what we should appeal to get from them, acceptance of the laws of Israel is what we need from them and if that isn't possible then they should be penalised. They enjoy this protected status of being our citizens but answerable to laws of their interpretation. It's time this was ended.
10. Salma - Palestinians are the experts
Brian Cohen ,   Judean Peoples Front   (07.12.10)
It is well known that Palestinians celebrate each terrorist attack on Israeli civilians. Palestinians not only are proud of their war crimes, but they give our hero posters of suicide bombers and dress their babies up as suicide bombers. Shame? The word simply does not exist in the Palestinian lexicon. Go see for yourself. Go to google images and search for: -palestinian collaborator -palestinian suicide bombing WARNING! Many of the pictures of the war crimes are very graphic. I advise you not to show your young children. Shame? Palestinians do not know the word. They take great pride that their "resistance to the occupation" has fooled the world and gives them immunity from international laws. The Palestinians have murdered hundreds of men, women and children in some of the ugliest crimes known today - and blame it all on the Jews. Palestinian gunmen have gone into Jewish homes and killed mothers protecting their children. They have opened fire on civilian cars, then walked up and shot the victims again at point blank range, including little girls and babies. And the Palestinians treat the scum who do this as heroes. Salma has no shame. To her and the Palestinians, Judge Goldstone is a liar. So is Amnesty International. So is Human Rights Watch. International laws and treaties do not apply to people with no shame, and they obviously do not apply to the Palestinians. The Palestinians have the right to kill Jewish women and children with no fear of retribution (except from Israel). They can kill any citizen of any country who happens to be in Israel because those people are obviously collaborating with the zionist occupation. The Palestinians have murdered Americans, Canadians, Thais, Europeans, Australians, South Americans.... all of it legal because they have convinced the international community that the Palestinians are above the law. No, the Palestinians have no shame. One day it will catch up to them, and their leaders will go to jail and their country "Palestine" will be stillborn, because a nation with no shame has no respect for its own people, let alone the world community.
11. YNET, WHY?
Outraged reader   (07.12.10)
I could not get beyond the first paragraph. This on the day after policemen almost got lynched in a Druze village. Why?
12. Buying into propaganda
Yaakov ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (07.12.10)
1) This was already debunked a couple of days ago. 2) The leafelt is as old as the expulsion from Gush Katif...it does NOT mention Druze soldiers. 3)Rafik should remember that the "resettlers" in the Jewish towns and communities in Judea and Samaria are in their homeland while the Druze are guests.. albeit very respected and appreciated guests. 4) Maybe we should remind Mr. Halabi of the Druze groups supporting the Dictator of Syria (Syria illegally occupied the Golan Heights for 19 years until 1967) 5) Maybe remind him of the druze group that were supporting terrorism or the druze violence against police officers a year or year and half ago! 6) ON the whole the Druze are a pleasant group that are loyal to their country. However, due to technology and desimination of information esp, in Arabic has started to influence them against ISrael.. This must be countered.
13. These people should hang their heads in shame.
Yoav Naor ,   Haifa Israel   (07.12.10)
No one deserves this treatment,least of all the Druze.You are causing yourselves enormous problems with this kind of behaviour.You can't afford to lose the nations approval.
14. Rafik
Norman   (07.12.10)
Rafik is not only a enemy of the settlers but an enemy of the Jews. Rafik if you don't like it in Israel move to any neighboring country and see how they treat you. The settlers sacrifice their lives for Israel perhaps more than any segment of our population. Unfortunately they are victims of weak Gov't freeze dispossesed etc... Again Rafik please Leave we don't need trash like you.
15. # 10
Chris   (07.12.10)
Palestinians are guilty, hands blood let. Israelis are guilty, ocean blood let.
16. They are NOT settlers
Brod ,   USA   (07.12.10)
They are Jews living in their liberated historic homeland-Land of Israel.
17. #10, Right On, Brian!!
Ari Olvera ,   Tel-Aviv Israel   (07.12.10)
#10- At last, someone plainly telling it like it is!! I was just visiting the states a month ago and got into a "discussion" with some American Jews (leftists) who although they hadn't ever set foot in Israel, began lecturing me about how the poor, oppressed Palestinians are all just really wanting peace and it is Israel's fault there is no agreement. They got aggressive and hostile when I pointed out some of the facts you just outlined here, and refused to acknowledge the truth. yes the pro-Palestinian propaganda works extremely well abroad, too bad we also don't have such PR experts working for us. There won't be peace here until the Palestinians stop murdering and whining about being victims and getting backed up by the world community! it's time to stop the perpetual act of playing the victim, at the same time murdering civilians in cold blood and claiming this is "Justified opposition to the occupation" Disgusting, cowardly. shameless. We cannot ever have real peace with people who think such as this. Change your thinking, and your actions, or continue to live like savages- It's your choice!!!
18. Brian Cohen, what is the Judean Peoples Front ?!!!
Salma ,   Palestine   (07.12.10)
I'll tell you something for me, not for you I really feel ashamed of any Palestinian, killed any "Israeli" children,whether intentionally or unintentionally! IT IS CRIME no , the the Palestinians have no right to kill any one,they have one right that is , resist occupation by all legitimate means. Mr. Cohen, the Palestinians are more patient and tolerant nation, and they are in spite of the Zionists crimes against them, not a problem for many of them to talk to the Jews, and work with them, we have no hatred against the Jews, but against there actions. You say that the Palestinians have convinced the world that they are above the law, the question is are you also convinced of this?!! or as usual it is a false charge , who rejected Security Council resolutions 242 338 194, etc?!Palestinians, or "Israel"!! PALESTINE WILL BE BORN, whether you like it or not. BYYYE
19. Druze are angels and settlers are demons. Yeah right!
Michael ,   Toronto   (07.12.10)
20. DO ARABS AND DRUZE EVEN SOME JEWS HAVE NO SHAME?
..........DACON9   (07.12.10)
WHERE IS YOUR SHAME WHERE IS YOUR KNOWLEDGE OF WHERE YOU CAME FROM? WHERE IS YOUR PEACE WHERE IS YOU LOVE WHEN JEWS CAN NOT WALK THROUGH NEIGHBORHOODS CALLED ARABS.. THEN YOU HAVE NONE OF THE ABOVE. THEN YOU ARE NEITHER A GOOD PERSON OR A WISE PERSON YOU ARE A DRESSED UP ARAFART ;LIKE ABBAS WHO NOW USES THE CUSTOM TAILOR OF OLMERT TO MAKE HIS SUITS.. PAID FROM world aid money.. YOU ARE A TERRORIST THERE ARE NO JEWISH SETTLERS IN ISRAEL.. .....ONLY CITIZENS AND THE WAR WILL CONTINUE AND
21. No Jew is setller in his ancestral land
(07.12.10)
Get it through you thick leftist skulls Jewish people are not settlers but have returned to their ancestral homeland. And no amount of media vilification and delegitimization is going to move us and certainly not that bafoon in the white house.
22. What a article of Hate
Ralph Levy ,   USA   (07.12.10)
I have a lot of Druze Friends, and I have the greatest respect for them, but this article is nothing more than a article of hate and ignorance by the author. http://ralphsrant1.blogspot.com
23. Halabi is selective
Zev ,   Israel   (07.12.10)
Anyone - Jew or Druzi- who helps enforce a racist law that only Jews are not allowed to build can not talk about settlers being racist.
24. Druze are our brothers in blood
Nahum Korda ,   Ein Ziwan, Israel   (07.12.10)
I fought in the First Lebanon War shoulder to shoulder with the Druze soldiers. They deserve our respect. They earn it the hard way, serving their country just like the Jews.
25. Salma - the Judean Peoples' Front are splittlers
Brian Cohen ,   Peoples FrontofJudea   (07.12.10)
The true representatives are the Peoples Front of Judea. I can only suggest that you look it up, then go watch the movie. As for "Palestine", you Palestinians are supposed to be negotiating for peace and not "resisting by any means." "Any means" is not legitimate, not legal, and involves war crimes. No, you are not allowed to shoot rockets at us, you are not allowed to shoot our settlers (they are civilians and whether you hate them or not, they are NOT legitimate targets), you are not allowed to bomb our buses or our restaurants, you are not allowed to shoot us in our cars even if we are driving in the west bank, you are not allowed to stab us and you are not allowed to throw rocks at our skulls. All of the things I just mentioned are war crimes. They are not "legitimate resistance to the occupation." Almost none of us Israelis have any objection to you Palestinians expressing legitimate resistance. It is all the illegal and criminal resistance we have problems with that shows us that you people want war, not peace. If you want peace, tell your stupid leaders to sit down and negotiate peace. You will not get a country unless you do that. The sooner your leaders sit down and negotiate peace (and this means Hamas too), the happier I will be. Until then, there can be no peace and the signals the Palestinians give us are of war with Gaza, and stalemate in the west bank. Yanni, what is your problem?
26. Salma #18 a few facts
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (07.12.10)
194 is not a Security Council resolution. It is a General Assembly resolution - which is a RECOMMENDATION not a law, an illegal resolution at that. UNSC Resolution 242 has nothing to do with 'Palestinians'. In fact it is the Arabs that refuse to fulfill their part of the resolution. First make peace, then we can discuss land. That is what the resolution states. As for UNSC 338 has nothing to with 'Palestinians'. It addressed the fact that the Arabs were still in violation of UNSC 242. Get your head out of your ass. Every single problem you have is because you are a bunch of racists that seem to believe they have the 'right' to commit genocide.
27. Brian #25: "Palestine"
Steve   (07.12.10)
We (many of us) believe the land of Israel in its entirety is the heritage of the Jewish people. It is our eternal inheritance. The Qur'an itself says the land of Israel ("the Holy Land") was given to Moses and to his people by God. I maintain, even should all the 'Palestinian' Muslims living in historic Israel become saints, we must not give any of our land away.
28. Steve - "many of us" does not a majority make
Brian Cohen ,   Judean Peoples Front   (07.12.10)
Steve...see ya at the kalfi next elections. Inheritance is nice, but there's a big tax to be paid on it. I admire you faithful types who take the Qu'ran literally, but there's also an aspect to Torah m'Tsion that leaves us a lot of flexibility to figure out some kind of working situation to get us to Bayit Hashlishi. Your way ain't it, at least we (many of us) think so and the election results continue to show that. If Feiglin does indeed win one day and crown himself king and impose a new Sanhedrin, well, heck, maybe you'll get to stone me to death as a blasphemer. However, last I noticed Feiglin was a weak leader with no large constituency, so it does indeed look like we'll be compromising with our cousins sometime in the future. I wanna make sure our chunk of compromise has teeth.
29. we are all settlers
ali babashvilli ,   tel aviv-yafo   (07.12.10)
in jerusalem,hifa,natanya ashkelon,beer sheva,tel aviv-YAFO and so on...so salma (no.5) what NEXT ???
30. 18 PALESTINE WILL BE BORN
JUDAH THE LION   (07.13.10)
No such name Palestine.ISRAEL Jerusalem.Shechem,Hebron,Jerichoand all the West bank is JEWISH LAND.Your land is in Arabia.
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