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Obama thinks we’re dumb
Amos Carmel
Published: 15.07.10, 00:45
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31. US is paying and so is the boss
ben ,   new york   (07.15.10)
Well, we - people of USA - could care less about Israel, and President Obama does not owe anything to Israel and is not supposed to pro- or anti-Israeli, he is the president of USA. As for American Jews, most of them would never leave US for Israel, so your expectations from them are simply foolish - they are AMERICAN, and as such, their first priority is their country. What we should do, though, is stop all financial and diplomatic aid to Israel for 1 year, to make you understand who is the boss here.
32. Its the American Jews who are dumb as clocks..
Al   (07.15.10)
They keep on insisting that America the once upon goldeneh medinah will be their home forever. Psst It wont. As a matter of FACT Onothing will be re elected in 2012 becuse of the rapidly changing demographics in America today. The days where the Jews were counted as an important minority are coming to a crashing end. So put away your illusions and sense of self import and come to the realization that you are on shaky ground. Isreal inspite of its horrific poor leadership, corruption and lousy hot stinky weather will flourish and will very soon become an incredibly wealthy nation. Israel has got what it takes to become so.
33. Amos Carmel is a genious...
Sam   (07.16.10)
but a fool at same time. If you clean the smoke and the bru haha the neo cons are farting to the air dsay in and day out and just examine Obama policies and contibution to Israel since elected you'll find Husain Obama actually have contributed more to Israel security than any othe president. The securiy cooporation between US and Israel is at all time high, Obama has granted some weapons even Bush dclined to and his latest gift was 205 mil for no appearant reason. Guys like Carmon are just have no idea what they talking about and just pollute the air.
34. It really is so sad…
k1w1 ,   NZ   (07.16.10)
I really do sympathise with Israel, about the way Obama has ignored them. Imagine! He visited Egypt and didn’t even pop over and say hello to Israel! The gall! And as if that wasn’t enough, he also praised Islam! Yes, he actually praised Islam! Man, that’s really rubbing your noses in it. I am appalled! I can sympathise, because down here in NZ we’re also getting the same sort of treatment from Obama and his crew in the White House. He has completely ignored us, has hardly even mentioned NZ, and he hasn’t even bothered to visit our neighbour, let alone come over to NZ. And he’s rubbing it in, too, by saying some nice things about the Aussies, who everyone knows are all just a mob of lying, cheating, thieving sons-of-convicts. And, even the great Hillary Clinton suddenly called off a planned visit to NZ (some excuse about Haiti, or something). Snubbed us! And we even named our greatest hero after her - the Everest conquering Sir Edmond Hillary! Imagine how we feel in NZ. Poor us.
35. #25. NYC Girl.
k1w1 ,   NZ   (07.16.10)
These are polls of people’s opinions (the people who will be voting) not polls of the media’s opinion of Obama. And it hardly looks like his approval rating is “hurtling down the crapper”. As for statistics, here’s another one: Jews account for only 2.2% of the population of the USA… (PS. I liked your comment on a previous thread regarding your experiences’ and opinion of the Left - so true.)
36. #25. NYC Girl.
k1w1 ,   NZ   (07.16.10)
These are polls of people’s opinions (the people who will be voting) not polls of the media’s opinion of Obama. And it hardly looks like his approval rating is “hurtling down the crapper”. As for statistics, here’s another one: Jews account for only 2.2% of the population of the USA… (PS. I liked your comment on a previous thread regarding your experiences’ and opinion of the Left - so true.)
37. Sit tight, Jews,
Dan the Jafa ,   Auckland, Aotearoa   (07.16.10)
Mr. Obama is damaged goods. The people will not forget him playing golf during Chernobyl 2.0 in the Mexican Gulf and teleprompted sound bites will only take him so far. Just flip him the bird, it will pay out in the long run. P.S. Mr. k1w1, here in New Zealand we cannot even imagine what it means when US prez dismisses 3000 years of nation's history because we as a nation have not even got to 10% of that (nor did America, for the matter). He has delivered a grave insult to the the citizens of the state of Israel, and there is little wonder Israelis despise him for that. But then again, we should be thankful that Odumbo is focused on Israel instead of punishing us for not letting US nuclear-powered ships in our territorial waters.
38. Obama thinks we’re dumb
split ,   USA   (07.16.10)
He doesn't think, looking at your politicians he knows,...
39. Mearly dumb?
arieh zimmerman ,   Kibbutz Zikim,israel   (07.16.10)
We voted for Bibi, twice! You think that Obama thinks we are dumb? I know that we are.
40. WHO ARE THE ONES YOU CALL - "WE" ???.
Arn. ,   SWEDEN.   (07.16.10)
THERE IS A SAYING IN SWEDEN - "WE PEARLS SAID THE SWINESHIT" !!!. FIRST OF ALL - TAKE THE WITTNESING OF THE PSYCHOPAT LENING ABOUT THE SOCIAL-DEMOCRATS - "USEFULL IDIOTS" !!!. THAT IS BECAUSE THEY DO NOT LIVE IN REALITY, AND DO NOT UNDERSTAND REALITY. FURTHER - THEY LIVE IN THE DREAM OF A SOCIALIST PARADISE, AND NO PARADISE WILL EVER COME WITHOUT THE WILL OF JEHOVAH BE DONE. THEY ARE SELFDECEIVERS. SO ARE THE MAYORITY OF JEWS IN THE US AS WELL. IT IS NOT THE WE WHO ARE THE DUMB HERE, EVEN THOUGH THAT MAY BE TRUE, AS SUCH ACCORDING TO THE ABOVE, IT IS OBAMA WHO ARE THE DUMB ONE HERE, A BLIND SELFDECEIVER, LEADING OTHER BLINDS SELFDECEIVERS, THEY DO REALY BELIVE IN THEIR SELFDECEPTIONS. AND IT WAS ALSO THOSE BLIND SELFDECEIVERS OF SCANDINAVIA, WHO GAVE HIM THE NOBEL PRICE. ALL FOLLOWES OF THEIR IDEOLOGY, ALWAYS JUMP ON ANY PEACEPROPHETS MESSAGE, ACCORDING TO THEIR ITCHING EARS. THEY DO NOT TAKE REALITY FOR WHAT IT IS, ONLY FOR WHAT THEY WANT IT TO BE AND CAN NOT THEREFORE INTERPREET REALITY RIGHT, AND COME TO THE RIGHT INSIGHT. Arn.
41. Emphasis
arieh zimmerman ,   Kibbutz Zikim,israel   (07.16.10)
I wonder if Arn, from Sweden, speaks in the same Capital Letters as he writes? I wonder if he thinks that the orthographic equivalent of screaming serves to improve the intellectual process indicated by the text.
42. Obama
Debbie ,   Givat Ada, Israel   (07.16.10)
Amen. You said it all. Thank you!
43. Obama is very perceptive
ezra   (07.16.10)
44. ben in new york # 31
Eaglebeak ,   Left Coast, USA   (07.16.10)
Don't be speaking for me. An AMERICAN president doesn't bow to the king of Saudi Arabia or anyone else. There are plenty of people here that care about Israel. If you don't, fine but speak for your self. I'm not going to be represented by some twit that thinks we are the boss of Israel or who bows to other world leaders.
45. dumb, dumb, dumb
arieh zimmerman ,   Kibbutz Zikim,Israel   (07.16.10)
We Israelis, or at least that voted for him.
46. Oh, no!
INCognito ,   Chicago, IL, USA   (07.16.10)
Obama did not come to Israel and did not pay a personal visit to author's house! He must be anti-Israel and anti-Semitic!
47. to #15
Ron ,   Tel Aviv   (07.16.10)
Is Steiner the most popular name in Bahrein?
48. Israel and Obama.
k1w1 ,   NZ   (07.17.10)
Israel: “It’s not that we hate Obama because he has black skin, has a Muslim name, and smells a bit funny. We’re not racist bigots! (Not all of us, anyway - our Foreign Minister is, and so is, er…) No, we hate him because of, um… other stuff. But, you have to admit, he does smell funny, eh?”
49. No. 35 Kiwi
NYC Girl   (07.17.10)
I think my point about the media is that although they're "in the bag for Obama" as we say, they haven't been able to save him from the wrath of voter's remorse. Right now Obama's approval ratings are in free fall. Of course, it's always possible they can be reversed, but I don't think I've ever seen such disenchantment with a politician as I've been seeing with Obama. And, yes, you're correct that Jews make up a very small portion of our populations, but they vote in high numbers and they also contribute substantially to Democratic candidates. And even from my admittedly very limited personal experience, I'm getting the sense that there are a lot of Jews out there...some of whom at one time would have cut off an arm before they'd vote for a Republican, who have become angry and disillusioned. Having said that, I'm gratified that you found my comments on leftist hypocrisy interesting. I hope I was able to offer some explanation for what to many of us appears to be an almost inexplicable phenomena.
50. No. 48 Kiwi
NYC Girl   (07.17.10)
I think people mis-characterize Avigdor Lieberman. He's hardly a racist since he's as hard on ultra-Orthodox Jews as he is on some segments of the Israeli-Arab community. His issue is more one of loyalty than of race. He's sick and tired of the traitorous behavior of both groups and has suggested that like the United States, Israeli politicians (both Arabs and Jews) should, at the very least, be expected to take a loyalty oath. Not only that, but if black skin is such a problem in Israel, why did they rescue the Ethiopians and bring them to Israel? I know that my country certainly never did anything like that. In fact, we have a different law for Haitian refugees than we do for Cubans, for example, which is supposedly based on the fact that the Haitians are economic refugees as opposed to the Cubans who are political refugees. But as an American, I say bulls--t. The Haitians are black and poor while many of the Cubans are white. Then to your other point, Obama's Muslim middle name is not the issue. Israelis are not that unsophisticated and most of them were willing to embrace him. However, Obama can't use his race as a club with which to beat people over the head with charges of racism because the truth is that many of us wouldn't give a damn if he was purple. The problem is that he's not qualified to be president because of his limited experience...not because of his black skin.
51. #50. NYC Girl.
k1w1 ,   NZ   (07.17.10)
Avigdor Lieberman is not only a racist; he’s also a thug, a thief, a fascist and a coward. He began his political career in Israel as a member of the Kach Party, an organization so extreme that Israel banned it outright from running in elections. This group, like Hamas, is considered a terrorist organization by Israel, Canada, the EU and the US. Nowadays, he advocates forced loyalty tests for Arab citizens of Israel, as well as other minorities, and stripping those who refuse of their citizenship but allowing them to remain permanent residents. In 1998, he called for the bombing of the Aswan Dam in retaliation for Egyptian support for Palestinian leader, Yasser Arafat. In 2002, he called for the transfer of Palestinian citizens of Israel from their homeland, claiming that there is “nothing undemocratic about transfer”. In 2003, he called for thousands of Palestinian prisoners to be shipped to the Dead Sea and drowned there because “that‘s the lowest point on earth”. In 2006, he called for the assassination of Arab members of the Knesset who had met with Hamas officials, even though IDF officers had also been meeting with those same officials. He has a conviction for cowardly assaulting and threatening a child. He was fined, and the court stated: "The defendant's acts were not minor in nature. This was not a single, isolated act stemming from a spontaneous reaction, but a series of acts committed over time." In addition, the police have recommended indicting him on other serious charges - including taking bribes, money laundering, fraud and witness tampering - and he has been investigated for his ties to Russian underworld figures. There have also been verbal attacks on judges, policemen and prosecutors, aimed at intimidating them, sometimes successfully. NYC Girl, please do not be an apologist for this brute. He is one of the worst things to happen to Israel in recent times and is certainly not a man who deserves to be defended, much less admired.
52. WHY OBAMA? Amos Carmel is an idiot.
sheik rattle & roll ,   USA   (07.18.10)
Why Obama? Why can't Israel just sit down with the Palestinians without the US government or any other government. Why does the world have to get involved? Is it because Israel and the Palestinians are incapable of settling there petty differences. Is it because neither side is willing to bend a little? Come on Amos make Obama the scapegoat. The bottom line is Israel doesn't want peace nor war and neither does the Palestinians. I believe the status quo suits each other fine.
53. #2 people like you...
Connie ,   Virginia   (07.19.10)
make me alittle ashamed to be from Maryland and also glad I don't live there anymore. Once I moved to Virginia I heard the other side and now know the truth. Here they follow the law/constitution. In Maryland they are so politically correct it's sickening.
54. to52
(07.19.10)
if one refuse to set and speak there is no agreement and israil ask usa before any war on arabs in lebanon and gaza and weapons that kill the lebaneas and the palastinians were made in america or usa .. israil wante iranian war but usa want sanictions so ..who is the obstacle in peace it is israil and usa sure the palastinians do not loke to listen to orders only .....
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