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Turkish FM: Return of vessels by Israel basic step
Roni Sofer
Published: 23.07.10, 20:54
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31. #17 Tayfun_Turkey
Albrecht Klein ,   Germany   (07.24.10)
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. - Albert Einstein
32. Tyfun stop this provocation
Daniela   (07.24.10)
we have no time for stupid games. I would like the large moslim world to leave in peace the small jewish state of Israel. ISLAM, LEAVE US ALONE!
33. Ahmet
Daniela   (07.24.10)
You can't say that turkish don't hate israelis. we all know that in every moslim state, there are many people who hates jews and are ready to die anytime as martyr in the holy war against them and against Israel. This is tipical among the moslims and unfortuatelly we have heard that there were peolpe ready to die in the turkish ship. We have now to accept the fact that our countries became enemies. Do you read what Tyfun writes? Turkey will become again our friend only when it's goverment will be cleaned by the radical islam that spread hate for Israel to its people. Don't vote for Ergodan the next election.
34. #20 Turks and Jews
(07.24.10)
Well, saving people from massacres and genocides is a tradition of Turkish states as the Turks saved Jews from Spanish Inquisition and WWII, Circussians and Abhazians from Russia, Bosniaks from the Serbs, Kurds from Saddam's Iraq, Poles from their internal war and Russians from their internal war...All these people were saved and invited by the Turks and now are living in Turkey for hundreds of years. I suggest you to search Sultan Beyazit II and his act of saving Jews from Spain by sending ships and bringing Jews to Ottoman Empire. Also search for Turkish diplomats who risked their lives to save Jews from the Nazis and Nazi collaborators in France, Greece and Germany: Selahattin Ulkumen, Necdet Kent, Namik Kemal Yolga and Behic Erkin. One of the Turkish diplomats pregnant wife was killed by the Nazis because he saved Jews from Greece. Also learn how Ataturk saved German Jewish academics from Germany. Perhaps only then you or anyone else would be able to talk about Turkish-Jewish relations. You can start reading Stanford Shaw and Avigdor Levy.
35. pirates still holding the ships
avraham ,   canada   (07.24.10)
fool. that is all
36. #33 Wrong, Republic of Turkiye is not a Muslim state,
Turk   (07.24.10)
It is a secular state as opposed to Israel and shariah ruled Islamic states. And, most Turks don't care about Israelies and Palestinians, it's just a subject to use in internal struggles and foreign policy gains. That's all. I couldn't care less about Israel, let alone dying to fight against Israel as you ridiculusluly claim. Middle East is a deep dark hole with all its religions and fanatic people, enjoy that darkness.
37. Entire world is wrong...
David ,   Sydney Australia   (07.24.10)
Israel thinks the entire world is wrong. They are the only one that right to every thing. Any one oppose this right will be severely punnished. They are like noisy children of the world just because they were subject to genocide in ww2. Aren't you guys forgeting something very little. While Nazi's hunting you guys down Turkey open their borders and arms to you guys. Just because you say that god gave that land to you does not mean you are going to stay there forever.
38. who's in charge of PR in Israel ?
Adrian Pencovici ,   Haifa - Israel   (07.24.10)
what's wrong with our PR ? 1- Is someone expecting thant by returning the ships international public opinion about israel is going to change ? 2- Is someones fool enough to believe that if those ships are going back to the terrorist organization IHH , they are not going to use them again ? 3 - the imediate reaction to Israel initiative to return the ships, was an UN demand for an international independent investigation on the Gaza flotilla. Our reaction....Zero !!! 4 - The returning of the ships just shows to the world that we , Israelis, agree that our defensive reaction was A MISTAKE and that we return the ships with our tail between our legs. It's like accepting the blame - and telling to the international opinion : Yes ...you are right....we are wrong. would France return a ship full of terrorits ready to kill French soldiers ? would the US return such a ship ? Would Germany...? What's wrong with us people ? Are we also beginning to believe the Hams and Al Kaida propaganda ...? returning the ships is a tragic PR mistake. It sends a message to the world that we acted wrongly - IDF soldiers were brutally atacked on the Marmara....and now we are sending a message that the boarding of the Marmara was a Mistake. Knock, knock, knock.....is someone out there at our foreigh office ?????
39. Turk #36 - Are you sure Turkey is still secular?
David Israel ,   New York, USA   (07.24.10)
I lived in Turkey from 1950 to 1980 and it was secular and modern. last year I made my last visit to Istanbul and Izmir and it is a whole different world. While Izmir is still better Istanbul has become very much Islamized. many covered women with dark CARFDAF, men with beards or almond mustaches carying worry beads all over the city even in Nisantasi and Istinye park.
40. #37
Omri ,   Israel   (07.24.10)
You are a fool, israel is here for nationalism reasons. Would the australian people be forced out of australia you will also want to go back there for national reasons. And no look again not all the world is against israel, and only a few of the countries that say the gaza blockade should end really do something about it. Again, UN should go look IN AFRICA looking in gaza is looking in a much more wealthy place then poor africa and the african people pay for that with their lives. Not that the UN cares
41. be careful ????
Arie Pencovici ,   Haifa - Israel   (07.24.10)
And turkey should not be enemy of Israel....since its using Israeli drones to exterminate Kurds, ....by the way , why Turkey don't get the drones from Iran ? her new friend on the block ? Turkey needs Israel not less than Israel needs Turkey. But helping IHH -terrorist "peace" organization, that was investigated by Turkey it self a few months ago, and suddenly kissing the "behind" of Ahmadenidjad...cretes a quite ugly image for Turkey around the world... But who cares about what the world thinks in the Islamic world....since the plans are to conquer the world back to Islam in the next 20 years.....
42. Turkey Islamic
Victor ,   Richmond,Va. USA   (07.24.10)
If Turkey goes the way of Iran and becomes a militant islamic state then Israel is indeed in big trouble.Israel needs help more than ever.Please pray for Israel!
43. #16 - Great. It will make them 100% military targets
William ,   Israel   (07.24.10)
Ever wonder why the Iranian Navy didn't escort the flotillas which never left Iran? We welcome the Turkish navy escort of future flotillas which will absolve Israel of any need to prove they are of a military operation and an indirect declaration of war. Maybe with enough Turks in Gaza they can rename it the "Turkish Republic of Gaza" on the order of Northern Cyprus after they began occupation in 1974.
44. #19 - what is definition of stolen?
William ,   Israel   (07.24.10)
When material or property is used in committing a crime, law enforcement agencies and military are allowed to confiscate such property. Same in this case where the Turks broke Intl law by trying to run a military blockade during war-time. It's a shame you have the name of an intelligent scribe from the past when you exhibit such stupidity and racism in the present.
45. #11 - "ethnically cleansed in 1948..."
William ,   Israel   (07.24.10)
Some people in Gaza claim to be from Jaffa...and there are many Arabs living in Jaffa today including one of the richest Arab families in Israel. Not much of an ethnic cleansing, huh David. Intelligence for all...even those who block it from themselves!!
46. #11- speaking of "ethnic cleansing..."
William ,   Israel   (07.24.10)
Let's talk about the Jews ethnically cleansed in 1948 from parts of Jerusalem, Hebron, the West Bank and Gaza...and the justice in their return there.
47. #14 - Have you met Turks in Europe?
William ,   Israel   (07.24.10)
I have...in Germany, Switzerland, Italy, and Belgium.... They both hate a lot of people and disrespect a lot of people to the point that some of the local population is scared of them.
48. #17 - and this time we'll keep them
William ,   Israel   (07.24.10)
We were allowed to keep them this time because they were used in perpetrating a crime. If the promise is broken and they are used again - then its fate is written.
49. #29 - speaking of leeches, how Rochester Doug?
William ,   Israel   (07.24.10)
Wow, can you say "failure of the American education system"? Apparently Doug, you are the perfect poster child for why Obama's Broadband Internet initiative will not bring educational resources and higher standards to American youth. First, the $3+ billion provided to Israel STAY inside the US and pay for American jobs and equipment. Israel is the only State where this is part of the agreement, unlike Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Iraq, Yemen, Qatar, Jordan, etc. nations that receive collectively many more billions in US taxpayer aid....and the population in these countries still HATE you. The US has made enemies of the US. For every hit with a drone missile or American footprint on Arab soil. But don't discount the Wahabi sect which needs violent Islam to push its message, much to the chagrin of other Muslims. Venezuela, North Korea, Bolivia, Cuba, Zimbabwe, Libya, etc. - all enemies of the US and not related to Israel. Go figure! I wonder how different the actions of America would be if they ended their thirst for oil? Would they be in the Middle East at all? Would you admit oil is the main driver and not Israel? Racism runs deep in you Doug.
50. #37 - did you survey the "entire world"?
William ,   Israel   (07.24.10)
I love how Leftists read a few newspapers and suddenly believe the entire world thinks one way or another. If you watch CNN, you'd guess America is against Israel. Yet read the polls of its citizens and you see 80% approval and support of Israel. Hmmm. I guess when you say "the entire world" you really mean "the part of the world that matters" - a euphemism used by the Left to describe those that support the Leftist platform, while the rest are "racist, backward yokels" You're from Australia, claiming to be Pro-"palestinian" and yet a good number of Aussies support Israel and operations in Afghanistan.
51. Rename Ships
zichron   (07.25.10)
The ships should be renamed Armenia 1915 and sent to the Hague to be displayed till Turkry admits atrocities war crimes and mass murder.
52. #51 do u know why Israel doesn't recognize Armenian Genocide
observer   (07.25.10)
The Knesset decided to shelve a proposal for a parliamentary discussion on the Armenian genocide, in compliance with PM Ehud Olmert's request. The state of Israel does not officially recognize the Armenian Genocide, despite the fact that the Jews themselves were victims of a similiar genocide for which Adolf Hitler himself used the Armenian massacres as an example. do you know why? The official story is that a group of Muslims -- known as the Young Turks -- were responsible, but there is a lot of evidence that the Young Turks were Crypto Jews.
53. Make a fishing reef useing those boats.....lol
Gr ,   USA   (07.27.10)
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