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Israel: UN probe into flotilla raid pointless
Roni Sofer
Published: 23.07.10, 19:47
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31. avi, 27. Look up the definition of Genocide
Palestinian ,   Refugee   (07.24.10)
Israel is responsible for the systematic destruction of Palestine with illegal settlements and bulldozers. If this was not the case, it would be on the world map. You erased its exitance, in effect committing genocide against an ethnic/racial group.
32. The UN is an undemocratic entity full of dictatorships
Yaniv ,   Israel   (07.24.10)
33. #31
avi ,   haifa   (07.24.10)
the construction of settlements does by no means allow the term genocide . Since the west bank is that area occupied by the arab legion in 1948 doesn't make it palestine. even the ceasefire document drawn up between the occupier jordan and the state of israel refers to "defining final borders in a peace agreement." Under jordan occupation there was not even the flimmsiest attempt to grant palis an autonomy.........and the palis did not complain.
34. # 19.....
Dana Rothschild ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (07.24.10)
" "sick obsession" to kill and destroy non-jews in Israel."?????????????? watch this, "palestinian refugee" : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWprs_t3rV0 and shut up!
35. Facts about Mavi Marmara
Truth Seeker ,   US   (07.24.10)
Those of you, tooting your horn trying to twist facts to cover up facts, let's not forget: * Mavi Marmara got boarded and all events took place in international waters * Mavi Marmara was under flag of another nation on international waters * 9 Lives were taken of those on the ship * No IDF forces were killed * While protesters showed restraint, IDF did not * IDF forces boarding ships have disabled all video cameras on the ship and confiscated equipment and evidence by means of videos from those on the ship * Israel insists on not giving access to those that need to be interviewed the most It is difficult for the world to turn their eyes the other way when Israel under the context of self preservation commits crimes. Regardless of how you turn and twist the facts, 9 lives were taken on a peace mission by well trained heavily armed Israeli forces which has failed to show restraint and used force that was uncalled for which seems to be Israeli policy. Anyone that criticizes or disagrees with Israeli policy is marked as enemy by those with extreme views in Israel. If all nations and groups of people behave like Israel claiming self preservation and act in a similar fashion, I wonder where the human race would be? I welcome any talkbacks and your views.
36. #31
Omri ,   Israel   (07.24.10)
Erasing a country off the map isnt exactly what israel did back in 1948, look again the west bank, gaza, galili, east jerusalem, all those where in arab countries hands but they didnt give it to the palastinians. And i wouldnt call that a "Genoside" if you really know what that word means because there is no prosecution and killing of non-jews in israel and theres a big portion of israel non-jewish. In fact the acupied teretories are not added to israel for they are told they will in the future be part of a palastinian state. And that will happen when palasinian leaders STOP SHOOTING ROCKETS AT US and agree to live side by side in peace.
37. #7 Go visit Mathausen...
factsconfuse   (07.24.10)
38. re 31
avi ,   haifa   (07.24.10)
Whether the Mavi Marmara was boarded in international waters or not and what flag it was flying is irrellevant. The organisers of the "Peace Mission" , the IHH, made it clear that they would run the blockade. TV footage showed the preparations of the thugs, arming themselves with metal rods and other potentially lethal objects. asearch of the cargo was not permitted ,only manifests shown. the state of Israel could not know whether the cargo contains weapons or not, but there was a hidh degree of suspicion when the organisers of the cruise are a terrorist supporting organisation to say the least. the protesters showed no! restraint but attacked the boarding party. True, no Israeli was killed but several were wounded. the boarding party was not "heavily armed" , but carried sidearms that were used in selfdefence and paintguns- hardly a lethal weapon. 9 lives were taken ,that is true and regrettable, Interestingly one by a bullet from a hunting rifle which did not belong to the armament of the boarders. the whole spectacle was a planned provocation and could have ended like the story with the lybian ship, woukd there not have been hundreds of gung ho radicals. i wonder really how other states would have reacted. idoubt that the US would have sent in social workers
39. Four years has passed since Gilad Shalit was abducted by...
Jehudah Ben-Israel ,   Qatzrin, Israel   (07.24.10)
...Hamas thugs from Israel, on Israeli sovereign soil, and for all of this time not a single International Red Cross personnel was permitted to visit to abducted young man. Yet, the UN Human Rights Council has found no interest or time during this whole period to investigate and issue reports about the abduction and the refusal of Hamas to meet kiinternational humanitarian laws. And prior to this, for eight full years Hamas thugs launched nearly daily rocket attacks against Israel and Israeli citizens, aiming their fire toward kindergartens, schools, universities, old age homes, medical facilities, etc. But the UN Human Rights Council found neither the interest nor the time to address these nearly daily violations of human rights, almost as if to say: Jews are less than humans thus deserve no rights. Why, therefore, should anyone take this UN affiliated agency seriously...??!!
40. Re: 38
Truth Seeker ,   US   (07.24.10)
Avi, A few questions: * Were there weapons found on Mavi Marmara to threaten the existence of Israel? * How can you claim that flying a nation's flag on international waters is irrelevant? There are international laws laid out and Israel cannot dismiss this. * Do you believe everything you see on T.V.? Media does twist facts. Perhaps, you can point to us all where this footage can be viewed? * Rods, and slingshots vs. automatic rifles used to shoot civilians on the head in close quarters... What do you call this? Let an impartial committee investigate and get the to the bottom of this terrible event. Please also keep in mind, protests and civil acts such as this flotilla are aimed at pushing the limits. There is absolutely no justification for murdering these people. Combat technology which Israel has means of have many tools available to disable people in crowd control situations like this without taking human lives with live/hard ammunition. Israel was wrong about the way it has handled this situation and must be held accountable by international law. Period!
41. # 37
Dana Rothschild ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (07.24.10)
don't understand... you mean, that if I laugh about "gaza witnesses" the visit to Mauthausen will change something? you want comparison Gaza and Mauthausen?
42. #35..TRUTH REVISER - YOU TOLD ONE GOOD TRUTH
ABRAHAM ben JACOB ,   CANADA   (07.31.10)
THE ONLY RELEVANT POINT YOU MADE IN ALL YOUR USELESS BLUSTERINGS WASTE OF SPACE WAS STATING THAT ...... " No IDF forces were killed " SO WONDERFUL TO HEAR THIS, NO ISRAEIS KILLED, JUST CRIIMINAL TERRORISTS. DON'T YOU JUST LOVE THIS !
43. RE: #42
Truth Seeker ,   US   (08.02.10)
In the incident related to Mavi Marmara, THE WORLD HAS SEEN WHO THE REAL TERRORISTS ARE!!! MARK MY WORDS; ISRAEL WILL BE THE ONE THAT STARTS WORLD WAR 3 WHEN OTHERS IN THE REGION PRODUCE NUCLEAR WEAPONS...
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