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Rally held in memorial of gay youth massacre
Ronen Medzini
Published: 29.07.10, 22:07
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1. "People aren't born with it."
Israeli 2   (07.29.10)
a passage taken from The Pedophile Sham, Undermining the Torah Matrix.
2. Violence against homosexuals IS a crime
Israeli 2   (07.29.10)
and should NEVER be condoned eventhough homosexuality itself is a criminal act.
3. I see a lot more Torah-phobes than Homo-phobes
Jake ,   USA   (07.29.10)
4. As of today - there are no suspects
Arthur ,   SF, CA   (07.29.10)
no arrests made. So - why call it a hate crime? Because it's directed at gay center? and btw - I never new that since moving to France Burg started to preach on religious matters
5. NOBODY CARES
LAWRENCE ,   Safed Israel   (07.29.10)
Couldn't give a damn what homosexuals do .I don't hate them or condone violence but I can not tolerate their selfish attempts to push their unpalatable lifestyle in to peoples' faces ,especially in the Holy City of Jerusalem .If homosexuals are so desperate for approval and a "pat on the back' then they must know ,deep down ,that their way is wrong.
6. to #5: EXACTLY! deep down they know its wrong.
Jason   (07.30.10)
7. The attack was in Tel Aviv. Why was the march in Jerusalem?
rebecca ,   Modiin   (07.29.10)
8. #2 homosexuality hasn't been a criminal...
Dorothy Friend ,   Tel Aviv   (07.30.10)
...act in Israel for decades!!!!!!
9. #5 I care
Sol ,   Toronto, Canada   (07.30.10)
Lawrence, I care and millions like me care. There should be no room in our hearts for hate. If you really believe in a God of compassion then you must believe that we are all God's creation. That we all have purpose. Who are you to judge God's work or plan?
10. #8 Dorthy Friend
David ,   USA, exile   (07.30.10)
It may not be a state crime but it is a Torah crime. If you think that you can escape the Law of G-d you are in for a big shock. Torah says it is an abomination and they are to be "cut off from their people." So throw around the catch phrases such as "homophobe" all you want. It does not effect those with a heart and mind for obedience to Torah.
11. This is absurd
Brett ,   Chicago   (07.30.10)
Israel is one of the most open places on the planet, J'lem included. Here jn Chicago we had over 100 evangelicals in 3 places on the route. Your description of 30 protestors and 3 frumpy orthodox women, along with a few settlers sounds like child's play, and they were probably mocked themselves more than anything they did to the marchers. I really implore Israelis to stop and realize that the vast majority of your society has relatively well adjusted towards gay people. My parter and I were amazed that when Israelis from all over the country found out we were gay the general response was "I'm not gay, but I have a nice friend to introduce you to". In America straight men either freak out and go berserk or have to constantly remind you how ok they are with you, which is totally condesending. As for the Orthodox, the majority of them really have no problem with gay people, and probably just don't have much exposure. That's why reaching out to under-exposed communities is better than shunning people for their perceived biases, something the organized gay community could learn better.
12. We know deep down it's right
Oded ,   Israel   (07.30.10)
Which is why we shove it your foolish faces until your ignorant views are shifted to openness to something that is scientifically accepted in most democracies including Israel (but not so much in Jerusalem apparently). Some of the comments on this forum are similar to Ahmedinejad's on this subject. Show some growing up - you're not muslims! Judaism knows better through acceptance and honor of other people, rather than wishing to eradicate differing views. Homosexuality aversion is not one of the 10 commandments after all.
13. "Gay" Articles
Steve ,   Palm Beach, USA   (07.30.10)
Four or five "gay" articles in the last few days on ynet. Wierd!? Have no hatred for homosexuals, but enough already!
14. face the music
Larry ,   Los Angeles   (07.30.10)
Most people who live in Jerusalem come because of its religious attractions, not because of the bars and pubs. Jerusalem has always been and will always be a religious city. Those who choose not to be religious will be a minority in the city. Those who choose to sin in public can expect to be chastised in public. If those who wish to live not according to religious tenents wish to live in peace, they should choose a city that is closer to their belief rather than come to a known religious city.
15. Personal decisions should be respected
Ilan ,   Ariel   (07.30.10)
A persons lifestyle is their own private business. It isn't a question of condoning or not, it is a question of letting another person order their private live as they see fit.
16. Hatred for your neighbour
Yakov ,   Tel Aviv   (07.30.10)
It is a sad comment on the good name of Judaism to see all the hatred, this homophobia being aired here. Gays, Lesbians and bisexuals are everywhere. They are your neighbour, your co-worker, your cousin. In other words, people! The purpose of seeking recognition stems from this kind of hatred. This is such a small country, and we are surrounded by those who wish to destroy us. Regardless of your personal beliefs, doesn't pragmatism decry the need to put down your hatred and live in peace? You don't have to accept, understand or even be friends. Simply become a better Jew and a better person.
17. #10
Dorothy Friend ,   Tel Aviv   (07.30.10)
Well, maybe you don't, but I do live in the State of Israel, and those are the laws that I respect. By the way, I knew what your were implying, and wonder why you didn't just say it the first time.
18. Dorothy , this david @ 10 , is NOT a JEW
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (07.30.10)
. His demand to make alyah was refused [ he told us ] because not Jewish at all .
19. Nobody Cares
jan ,   Jerusalem,Israel   (07.30.10)
This is such an old issue for Israelis who came from Western countries,it's a non-issue. Sorry for the homophobes, as we know that fear most likely comes from their unresolved personal issues. Sorry for any violence against GLTB community. Sorry to tell you there will probably never be a time when you can marry here. You will go abroad to get married, come back have or adopt children and live pretty much normally, but you really canot expect he Rabbi's of Israel to marry you.
20. #9 SOL ,WHO ARE YOU ??
LAWRENCE ,   SAFED ISRAEL   (07.30.10)
Who are you to question the word of G-d ,he after all says in the Torah that the homosexual act is "an Abomination." I personally don't care what homos do in private ,I do not like their provocation in the holiest place on earth Jerusalem .And who are you to lecture me from Toronto . I live in The Holy Land and what is acceptable elsewhere is unacceptable here.
21. WE DO NOT HATE GAYS
LAWRENCE ,   SAFED ISRAEL   (07.30.10)
We just hate to see them parading on the holy streets of Jerusalem .There are many places to hold a gay parade ,but only one Jerusalem .Mock the Almighty at your peril.
22. Lawrence 21
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (07.30.10)
Holy streets of Jerusalem ? They only parade in THEIR Capital , not every street there is holy . The word od god ? what's this . Ok , i'm writing that homosexuality is NOT an Abomination , and i'm a LIVING Jew , not an inexisting thing .
23. #22 YOU ARE A LIVING FOOL
Lawrence ,   SAFED ISRAEL   (07.30.10)
G-d exists ,your stupidity and insolence also exist .
24. Brett (and more)
Daniel ,   Tel Aviv   (07.31.10)
As a native Chicagoan who made aliyah (That's moving to Israel to become a citizen Brett) I have realized that while Tel Aviv is relatively accepting of homosexuality, many other communities are not. The really "big deal" here is that 2 children were murdered and many others injured because they were gay a year ago 1 August. A few years before that, a straight man was stabbed because he was watching the parade in Jerusalem. So yes it is more of a big deal here when a few protesters turn up at the parade. Just read the vitriol you see from these so called religious people. They have no shame and no ability to think outside their black hats. To them murder of a gay person is a mitzvah. A parade in Israel's capital is an attempt to bring the government into the forum. Gay people in this country should be heard and granted complete equality. Perhaps then there would not need to be a parade in Jerusalem. Perhaps when attitudes are sufficiently accepting parades will become a thing of the past. But today gays must fight for their rights and for protection. Until such time that murder for the perception of being gay does not take place.
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