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British Muslim girls' painful secret
Roee Nahmias
Published: 01.08.10, 13:03
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1. I am against it when it's been done to men and I think
ghostq   (08.01.10)
women souldn't go through that either. to cut something so important in the human body and suffer. no need and very redundant.
2. Bad thing
Vic ,   Beer Sheva Israel   (08.01.10)
Same about men circusision:"they just didn't have any clue that it's not a religious thing to do, it's just a bad cultural thing that has been picked up."
3. to #1
Tamar ,   Israel   (08.01.10)
The difference betwin women and men is that the men still fell everything during sexual relations and it does not disturbe him to be with a women, it's even healty for a baby to have it done, the peace of skin has no purpuse there,but to do that to a women???To cut her when she is 12?And why?For her not to feel any kind of pleasure?This is sick! They treat women like animals! Women has no respect, has no rightm she is nothing in their yeas, she is good only for making babys, boys of course!This is only showing how sick this people really are!
4. Evil
Simon ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (08.01.10)
Female and male processes are not comparable at all. With the men, it heals quickly and is a religious imperitave, and has hygene and sexual positives. This evil voodoo sexist female thing is a crime and people who do it should be locked up and shamed. lets arrest these old women and pushy aunts etc who do these operations - this is wrong.
5. To axe grinders #2 and #3-Your ignorance is astounding.
Bartley Kulp ,   Haifa, Israel   (08.01.10)
First of all there are many modern medical opinions that would consider male circumcision healthy. Especially for sanitation perposes and preventing the spread of STD's. Moreover it does not inhibit sexual gratification for the male, nor was it ever intended to do so. Female circumcision on the other hand is meant to deprive women of sexual gratification. It is mutilation of a functional organ ei: the clitoris and it is more hazardous..
6. Dangerous illusion.
Lidia ,   Moscow, Russia   (08.01.10)
So-called "multiculturalism" is the evil that allows such atrocities to go unpunished. I am horrified to imagine how many more girls are destined to go through that hell before the society recognizes an obvious thing: there is NO other way but compulsory long-term prison sentences without parole to fight the sadists.
7. Similarity and surrender
Christopher ,   Boston, MASS   (08.01.10)
Given the fealty shown by the Brit PM and his stooges to the Muslim overlords, much like BHO and his House Jew, this may be the future for all British women
8. It's barbaric!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Talula ,   Israel   (08.01.10)
Why isn't anyone doing anything about it? It makes me feel dizzy and nauseous to think what these poor girls have to go through. And of course it's MEN who enforce this on them. Bastards.
9. ...this too is Britain today...!!!
Jehudah Ben-Israel ,   Qatzrin, Israel   (08.01.10)
10. Talula, Talula, Talula.
Bartley Kulp ,   Haifa, Israel   (08.01.10)
No, actually it is the women who mainly enforce it and carry it out. They probably originally came up with the ritual.
11. Female circumcision
Yusuf ,   Hebron , palestinian   (08.01.10)
This is sick and i feel dizzy to hear this , i think those people should be punished hardly .
12. what choice we men had ?
BENJAMIN ,   SINGAPORE   (08.01.10)
we were cicumcised on the eight day ( 8th ) :-) EVEN THESE DAYS, STILL THE SAME -NO CHANGES :-) ANYWAY WHAT EVER REPORTED BY GUARDIAN/GUARDIAN NEWS & MEDIA , I WONT BELIEVE A WORD !
13. British Muslim girls circumcision
DT ,   TA Israel   (08.01.10)
Quite likely available in the UK on the National Health Service
14. this is an anceint tradition since the pharoahs not Islamic!
(08.01.10)
However, I could see that ynet doen't spare any effort to publish articles of this kind in order to blaken the name of Islam, which is also an Abrahmic religion like Judiasim! I noticed the number of anti-islamic articles on this site and I now have an idea of what type of people it's run by!!! Shame on you!
15. jail the parents.
aviG   (08.01.10)
16. Genital Mutilation...
Juan ,   Spain   (08.01.10)
... is also being paid for by the British government doing hymen repairs for Muslim women. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1298684/Surge-virginity-repair-operations-NHS.html?ITO=1490 The world has gone crazy. However the opposition will turn to Jews and say that circumcision is also wrong.
17. 12 Benjamin - no comparison with male circumcision
Arthur   (08.01.10)
What they do to girls is actual butchering of the genitalia. Cut, cut, excise, sew up. You have no idea. Inform yourself, man.
18. #11
(08.01.10)
they do this in gaza routinely.
19. Nawal Saadawi is Egyptian writer
observer   (08.01.10)
Female circumcision has different grades according to extent in the most extensive one the labia minora and clitoris are removed completely and the external vaginal opening is stitched to partially close it. That was the practice in central Africa's tribes according to local cultural tradition. The mildest form was practiced in Egypt and was involving parts of the labia minora, and small part of clitoris in case it is hugely large. The controversial Saadawi,when she says stitches, speaks of somewhere else culture other than the Egyptian one. will you ask the olim Ethiopian girls if they had the op in Ethiopia or in Israel?
20. Say it's "not islamic" is baltant LIE!
Rehavam ,   Israel   (08.01.10)
Just as saing suicide bombers and 72 virgins "not islamic" It is objecting reality!
21. Try Honesty #14 Custom
Yaakov ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (08.01.10)
Yes this custom is ancient and pre-dates Islam. But it is an Arabic (pre-islamic)custom that did not disapper with islam but rather became an unnopfical part of ISlam and spread with it. Take responsibility. Also, Islam is not really an Abrahamic religion (yes many things were borrowed from Judaism and Christianity) because it was only created in the 7th century at least 2,500-2,700 years after Abraham -the first Jew- lived.
22. so brit media publishes this story, what do they
DVH ,   nyc, usa   (08.01.10)
hope to achieve, its the muslim bashing that the british media does very well but you guys dont see it as that.. the average brit would read that and think, g-d what barbaric muslims they are butchering little girls. talkbackers need to get out more, travel a bit and grow a brain. i am a jew in NYC but I dont want to my grandkids with your grand kids down by the mega mosque in NYC.
23. Poor little girls, islam's schooling in slavery
sylvio   (08.01.10)
I have one suggestion. Why not reward allah's warriors with their expecting prizes, the 72 mandatory whores, with the mothers of these poor children that are being sacrificed on his altar. Unfortunately, Britain is not the only one subjected to this " sanglant " custom. The cesspool of Europe's intelligentsia is only following the trend of their new citizens.
24. #21 Abraham was not a Jew
observer   (08.01.10)
Abraham is one of the best-known people of the Bible. Abraham was born in the Chaldean City of Ur, Mesopotamia, to Terah, his father. He's a key figure in the history of both the Jewish and Arab people. He was the great-grandfather of Judah, whose descendants became known as the Israelites, Jews. And he was also the father of Ishmael, from whom many of the Muslims, Arab people are descended. Abraham was a Hebrew, and although the ancestor of both, Abraham himself was neither Israelite nor Arab, but he was someone who totaly submitted to God's will. Jews are descendants of Abraham's great grandson, Judah. Abraham was a Hebrew--one of the nomadic tribes wandering that area. Descendants of the Hebrews include modern day Jews and Arabs. Jacob, who God renamed Israel, was Isaac's son. Jacob was a Shemite and a Hebrew, but not a Jew because Jews originated with his son Judah. The first Israelites were the children of Jacob.
25. #24 Observer
Yisraeli   (08.02.10)
A couple of points to your comments. The word Jew is a "modern" invention based on Judean - Yehuda. Implying todays Jews decend from the tribe of Judah as it survived the first exile when the northern kingdom Israelite tribes were exiled and dispersed becoming the "Lost Tribes of Israel". The surviving southern kingdom on land allotted to the tribe of Judah did not only contain Judeans, there were Levites to as well as others, yet all are considered 'Yehudim'. The Jewish nation did not come into being until Mount Sinai where they were given the Laws of the nation. Abraham till Jacob were known as Ivri or Ivrim, coming from the word 'Me-ever'. As Abraham came from the other side of the Euphrates, me'ever the other side or from across (the Euphrates). As you said Jacobs name was changed to Israel thus naming the desendants Israelites. I believe it was the German language that coined the word Jew, as they had no pronounciation for Ye for Yehudi. So they used the letter J for Jude which in english term is Jew. I as a Jew am decended from the Ivri'im who beame the Israelites then narrowed to Yehudim (Judean tribe of Yehudah) after the first exile. And now am termed Yisraeli - Israeli. Am Yisrael Chai Vekayam.
26. Do not call this circumcision. It is excision
Ovadia Salama ,   USA   (08.02.10)
Amalgamating female excision with male circumcision is part of an anti-semitic campaign to destroy the Jewish people by raising international condemnation of an innocuous Jewish practice that defines the Jewish identity since time immemorial. This is why this article is in fact a manifestation of british anti-semitism and hypocrisy. Do not assimilate female clitoral excision with male circumcision.
27. Sex is a gift from God
ahmed   (08.02.10)
and nobody has the right to take away that pleasure from a woman.. she has the same right to it as a man, and anybody who thinks this is a religious act is severely mistaken. The Quran actually specifically speaks out about people forbidding what God has allowed... how sad..
28. Arthur..i know man, i know . some even die, ...
Benjamin ,   singapore   (08.02.10)
and you know what, i saw two dead in South Africa......vine yard tragedy.And teh South African Jew interven.....guess what they pull the "A " card . they performed the genitile mutilation with broken glass ! Arthur, your are correct, it is no comparison with male circumcision. Shalom :-) ben singapore
29. female circumcision/ mutilation
avi ,   haifa   (08.02.10)
why is there no feminist outcry around the world that such a barbaric custom can be performed in a european country like britain. another cave in of the british lion? Even most muslims find it disgusting.
30. #25 are modern Jews Jews?
observer   (08.02.10)
It's true that there has always been a miniscule Jewish colony in Israel-Palestine, but the majority of the founders of the modern state of Israel came from abroad. Are the majority of immigrants who style themselves Jews, in fact, Jews? the present-day Palestinians are far more likely the descendants of the ancient Semitic people in Judea/ Canaan than the current predominantly Khazarian-origin Ashkenazi populace. Jews of North Africa originated in indigenous tribes that became Jewish - and not in communities exiled from Jerusalem. Jews now living in Israel and other places in the world are not at all descendants of the ancient people who inhabited the Kingdom of Judea during the First and Second Temple period.
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