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Ukraine: Israeli headed organ-trafficking ring
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Published: 06.08.10, 10:07
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1. Win-win
AJ - Raalte   (08.06.10)
It's against the (out-dated?) law, of course, but this seems like a win-win situation, all around. A life is saved or prolonged, the donor is paid (could be more generously, but this is apparently the going rate) , and it keeps a lot of people (doctors, nurses, etc.) in work.
2. Now I know why the Swedes wrote what they wrote in their
Jens ,   Germany   (08.06.10)
Media.
3. No way!!
Palestinian   (08.06.10)
I cannot believe this, something must be wrong...i think this is, like always, a conspiracy.
4. This is not the first
Johnny ,   Nazareth   (08.06.10)
time that we hear about criminals trafficking in organs. We heard about italians doing it, americans, russian,and many others. Although this is the an ugly,filthy and inhuman crime, the world is outraged just when Israelis are involved... Hypocrites
5. #2...poor wimp...
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (08.06.10)
6. WERE THE ORGANS KOSHER ?????????
Ehud ,   ISRATINE   (08.06.10)
7. To all the anticipated racist comments
Paul ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (08.06.10)
First, this was a private citizen not the IDF that the racist, barely conscious pro-Jihad Swedish journalist try to denigrate. Second, it was the Russians and others who were doing the butchery, not Jews. Third, these were not stolen organs, but sold willingly and purchased for a price. Fourth, in every dark corner of Earth unscrupulous people commit these crimes, 'highlighting' Jewish involvement is just another symptom of the inherited disease called Jew-Hatred.
8. # 1
rick   (08.06.10)
oh please, life of people who can pay for it are saved. if there should be a market-price for organs (the donor is payed, could be more...) why not go to bangladesh, to gain more profit. in my view its absolutly unethical to run a organ-market based on money!
9. Not again!
zionist forever   (08.06.10)
New Jersey, Algeria, Romania, South Africa, Brazil and now the Ukraine…..Why is it that it is always Jews that are running these illegal operations? Why can’t it be another nationalities?
10. Why the fuss?
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (08.06.10)
How is this different from what has been common practice in India, Bangladesh and China for decades? It's not like they are trafficking in human hearts or livers or pancreases. If someone wishes to sell a kidney, that is entirely within their discretion. If someone wishes to purchase one, that is entirely within their discretion as well. No one is forcing anyone, and as long as the donor is paid as expected for the donated organ (which, sadly, tends NOT to be the case in Asia) and the recipient of the donated organ covers the costs of all surgeries and the surgeries are performed to standard (whatever that is in the Ukraine), I do not think it is morally different from people who voluntarily donate bone marrow or a kidney to a family member. Everyone prefers life to death. Especially those who have spent years in dialysis, waiting for a kidney to become available via traditional transplant networks. Thankfully, my kidneys are in fine working order, but I do know someone whose continued existence depends upon dialysis. It is not a particularly pleasant way to live.
11.  ORGAN RING
PRINCE ALBERT ,   SAFED ISRAEL   (08.06.10)
I have one of those .Which is why my butler asks me : " Is sir dressing to the left or to the right today ? "
12. Where there's smoke, there's fire - Apologise to Sweds !!!
split ,   USA   (08.06.10)
13. # 4 Johnny
Anonymous ,   TX, USA   (08.06.10)
The world is not outraged because Israelis are involved, they are concerned that if Israel is doing such things to free people in sovereign countries, they imagine the worst being inflicted to the tens of thousands of Palestinians left at the mercy of Israelis in Israeli jails. The swidish media raised that concern, and time and time again evidence is showing that such crimes are rampant among Israel. You mentioned Italians, Americans, Russians, and many other countries, but none of these countries have occupied people at their mercy like Israel has (with the exception maybe of Russia which is being scrutinized as well).
14. LOL, No. 11!
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (08.06.10)
15. To #13 Anonymous
Johnny ,   Nazareth   (08.06.10)
You are totally wrong. Israel isn't the suspect here but an Israeli citizen. This is what i meant. But the world doesn't concentrate on this criminal, the world criminalize all of Israel, thing that the world doesn't do with other nations. Hypocrites
16. Re #13
Andrew Brehm   (08.06.10)
Thanks. Now I am worried about the prisoners in American prisons. Americans have also been found to be involved in organ trade and you guys have so many more people in prisons than almost any other country in the world.
17. Re #13
Andrew Brehm   (08.06.10)
Americans haven't occupied people at their mercy? I grew up in West-Berlin. I even played Baseball in the American barracks, with American soldiers. They didn't occupy us? Where do you get your history lessons? The circus?
18. @ no. 8 rick (08.06.10)
AJ - Raalte   (08.06.10)
Oh, please, the lives of people who can pay for expensive treatments and medication, are saved or improved ALL THE TIME, as opposed to the lives of those that can't pay for it. That's the way of the world, bud. The REAL world, that is, not your imagined socialist "paradise", obviously. Besides, as more rich people pay for this expensive treatment, the more "free" kidneys and such are available for people that are less well off. Nothing "unethical" about that. Apparently, it wasn't necessary to go all the way to Bangladesh either, as there are willing sellers in Europe, which is a lot closer.
19. #17, Why have you then played baseball
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (08.06.10)
with them...??? IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! from the circus....
20. LOSE-LOSE
Irene Tosetti ,   Italy   (08.06.10)
AJ-you're sick. A body is not something you buy, sell or rent. This phenomenon is the very essence of the rich exploiting the poor and stealing their dignity. Like a magnified form of prostitution (which is a social tragedy in itself, too). Why don't you chop off your right arm and sell it at the Shuk haCarmel? I'm sure you'll find some customers. Wouldn't you be happy?
21. To: No. 20
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (08.06.10)
If the donor lives in dreadfully poor circumstances in a country with no social services or safety net and can earn income only if he or she can find employment -- how is it helping their dignity if they starve to death or cannot afford to keep a roof over their head? If donating a kidney makes their existences less precarious, why do you object? Of course you do realize that the Vatican is the single wealthiest organization in the entire world. I realize that Vatican City is an entity entirely separate from Italy, but why don't you organize your fellow Italians to lobby the Vatican to improve the lives of the poor throughout the world so that they do not HAVE to sell a kidney? Jews look after other Jews. Can't Catholics look after Catholics? (Why don't they? Don't you find it obscene that the world's richest organization should number among its faithful fifty or so of the poorest countries on the planet? I do.
22. To: No. 16
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (08.06.10)
It has often been suggested that prisoners sentenced to death or facing a term of life without the possibility of parole should be offered an option of donating one kidney, and thereby trying in some way to pay a portion of their debt to society. Indeed, many prisoners under sentence of death and serving life with no parole have VOLUNTEERED to do precisely that. The problem is not with the prisoners. The problem is with the federal Bureau of Prisons, which bans the practice absolutely for federal prisoners, and the individual states, only three of which permit organ donations -- and even, then, only corneas, which are the only salvageable transplantable organs following execution. There are even prisoners who have tried to volunteer to be human guinea pigs for, say, the development of certain vaccines, or to test the efficacy of certain medications -- that is not permitted, either. It's unfortunate.
23. To: No. 17
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (08.06.10)
Shhhh. Some of us think that Germany's stain will never fade, and quite a few of us thought the only way to keep Europe safe is to have a Germany forever divided. You would be surprised how many Americans think that we dropped nukes on the wrong country.
24. #16 - You are totally wron,... Israel isn't t ,...
split ,   usa   (08.06.10)
In December 2009, Israel admitted that, in the 1980s and 1990s, there had been organ harvesting of skin, corneas, heart valves and bones from dead bodies of Israeli soldiers, citizens, Palestinians and foreign workers at the Abu Kabir Forensic Institute without the permission from relatives.[6] The revelation was a consequence of the Aftonbladet-Israel controversy.[7][8] Israel states that the institute in question ended such practice sometime around the year 2000.
25. Ukranian Organs
Barzilai ,   Chicago, USA   (08.06.10)
After all is summed up, I think Ukraine owes us Jews many thousands of organs that they festively ripped out of our innocent brothers and sisters. How quickly we forget! Let's hope the operation now moves on to Chechnya, another bastion of ecumenicism and brotherly love.
26. I hope that they will get at least 20 years in
Vardina   (08.06.10)
jail.
27. Thank you Israel "light for whatever"
Jack. A   (08.06.10)
28. OK
John ,   Herzliya, Israel   (08.06.10)
So let's suppose that they have 100% leak proofs for their statements that Israeli citizen was behind the scheme. But when it comes to world media, they will not claim that Mr NN from Israel is behind this dirty business (could as well be from Lebanon or Syria or Egypt, don't you think so, there are dirty entrepreneurs willing to make dirty money all over the world), no, they will say that Israel is behind this. Do you see the difference? I do.
29. @ 20
AJ - Raalte   (08.06.10)
Oh no? A body isn't for buying, selling or renting? Get real, girl. Happens all the time, all over the world. It's how most people earn a living. You want me to chop of my arm, and I"M SICK??? LOL
30. # 25 - "After all is summed up",...
split ,   usa   (08.06.10)
To follow your stupid comment, they didn't invade you there, remember that ,...
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