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Do Israelis actually work?
Noah Klieger
Published: 08.08.10, 11:15
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61. With this kind of proof.. nobody in the western world is wor
Ted ,   UK   (08.09.10)
What a stupid conclusion. I srael is probably one of the most high density population in the world (number of person per sqr km). Leran a bit of statistics and you'll understand... BTW, go to any street and shopping centre in London any time of day... and you'll come to the same conclusion!!
62. me n my friend thought asked the same question
anne ,   spain   (08.09.10)
me and my friend asked the same question evrytime we go out..places are always crowded..we often ask.do these people work?we always find it hard to get a parking space even if it is a working day
63. If You Steal Enough Land and Water from Others
Doug ,   Rochester, USA   (08.09.10)
Then are able to import third-world laborers at slave labor wages, and use political action committees to extort billions of dollars a year from the U.S.. you are able to then live a life of leisure.
64. 9-5 7-3
Dov ,   Tel Aviv   (08.09.10)
I work my day job 7am until 3pm so I'm in that traffic also. Similar to US 9 to 5 however difference is when I'm in that traffic i'm driving to Rosh HaAyin to work my evening job until 9pm like may others. This wrister is clearly a fool who doesn't realise many offices close at 3pm
65. #57 It is duty of charadim to study
talmudic sage ,   TA   (08.09.10)
and this is the work for Hashem. We and we alone keep Israel safe. Nothing the IDF does keeps Israel safe. The money I get from the government is none of your business. I have children that must be fed. Thankfully the government realizes the good we do. Stop complaining. It is your job to make sure we keep praying for the safety of all Israel including you.
66. 65 . Sage ? not ; schnorrer ?, Yes !
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (08.10.10)
You keep Israel safe with your "god" ? where was this "god" when Jews needed "him" ? The money you schnorre is OUR money , we pay for it . If you want your children to have food : WORK
67. doug .
Charles ,   Petach Tiokva   (08.10.10)
don't bark so . You are a fine example of the heirs of this guy with his moustache . We LIVE , he , and his dreams , are dead .
68. not sage @ 65
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (08.10.10)
What are the charidim abroad doing ? They WORK for their money , and can combine this with study . But abroad they can't milk the State , they don't receive anything . In my birth country , someone who did'nt work , did'nt receive child allowances either . You keep Israel safe ? we are lucky that we did'nt believe this , that we rely ONLY on the IDF .
69. 63
ross ,   israel   (08.10.10)
well, doug, i guess you'd know better than anyone about stealing land: usa is built on stolen land. when are you going to give it back to the indians? when are you giving the territory back to mexico, to hawaii? how about all the resources plundered from south america? are you sure that you don't benefit from america's own conquests? also you probably know all about building a country on slave labor, which now takes the guise of illegal immigrants, who in my experience work much harder than the people like yourself. and 3 billion a year in u.s. aid, all of which must be spent in the u.s. itself is nothing more than another subsidy for the american defense industry. do you question how much it costs to maintain so many american bases in japan and germany, even though these are far richer countries? can't they pay their own way? the u.s. needs a client in the middle east; for 3 billion you have it very cheap. how much have you spent trying to tame other nations in the region? having lived in both countries: americans are friendlier, israelis work harder. of course there are plenty of putzes in both lands.
70. Ross , 69 . i want to add
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (08.10.10)
That the USA gives us money to spend in their country , because we are the ONLY true allies in the whole region .
71. To#67 dead dreams
thinkagain ,   jerusalem   (08.10.10)
This beast s dream is not completely dead, as long jews souls are empty of jewish beliefs.And concerning:where was G-d during the shoa?It s horrors are described in the Tora as a consequence if the jewish would not follow G-ds commandements.It is also written that the jews from all the coins of the world would come back to our land.The secular believ that it happened thanks to hem.They had a great merit ,but though they were exceptional heroic soldiers,it can not explain the great experience we lived.
72. 71 , and why were those "good"
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (08.10.10)
Jews [ very religious ] , why were those 1.5 million chidren also murdered ? and this "al kedushat hashem" ? Without our soldiers , no Israel would exist , even with your belief in a INEXISTING thing you call "god" . I answer in the wayyou wrote , but i without HATE . Regarding the beast's dream , not completely dead , AS LONG there are those clowns in their medieval clothes and with their medieval belief this beast will exist . .
73. To#72
(08.10.10)
Religious and secular jews are ONE people,and are on the same boat.It is enough that one person makes a big enough hole on the boat,and all the passengers will die.That is why orthodoxe people feel responsible for the secular.I will not answer on your hateful statements concerning the haredi. You deceive me.
74.  72 Did Dreyfus wear medieval clothes?
thinkagain ,   jerusalem   (08.10.10)
75. think @ 73 .
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (08.10.10)
My tb was only a response to your hatefull tb , mine was not so as i wrote it . And you "asked" for a harsh answer . you don't need you to feel responsible for us . And comparing the millions of innocent victims to a boat with a hole ? "great"
76. To #75 Friends?
thinkagain ,   jerusalem   (08.10.10)
77. 74 , but there were many who did it !
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (08.10.10)
and those provoked it . No word either : i will not respond....you wrote . Short memory ! or not at all .
78. To 77 no memory
Thinkagain ,   jerusalem   (08.10.10)
Please remember me,that i do not want anymore to discuss about the existence of G-d,as we are hurting one another inintentionaly.I have the greatest esteem for you(as i have allready written in one of the tbs)because you have given to your children a jewish education,allthough your father could not give that to you ,because the war.Sorry.
79. #7 Salma
Israeli ,   U.S.A/Israel   (08.11.10)
Salma i wondering what you do for a living ? Take a cup of cafe and thing what Israel complished in 62 years , Chill out .
80. 74 . No Dreyfus = No Herzl = NO ISRAEL:
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (08.11.10)
The Dreyfus affair was caused by the antisemitism of some military chiefs and supported by a paper who was violently antisemite . They had received it with their mother's milk . But Dreyfus was rehabilitated , not murdered . We should do more for his memory . A friend of me , a stamp collector , told me once that Israel had issued a stamp [ his condemnation ] and France also one , for his rehabilitation . Different views !
81. 78 , Jewish education
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (08.11.10)
in my birth town more than 95 % of all the Jewish children went to a full time Jewish school , Seculars too . Once a Jewish teacher asked a pupil : what did you do on Yom Kippour ? We went out and i received a new raincoat . True story .
82. jewish education
thinkagain ,   Jerusalem   (08.11.10)
Poor boy.He most probably was the mockery of his class.His only crime was ignorance due to his parents fault.
83. 78 . You are wrong
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (08.11.10)
My Father zl would never have given me what you call a Jewish "education" . He was an atheist himself and he gave me the possibility to make my own choice .
84. To#83 own choice
thinkagain ,   jerusalem   (08.11.10)
You gave your children the possibility to make their own choice,by showing them the two possibilities.
85. 82 , poor boy ?
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (08.11.10)
when i see all those children in Bene Berak [ i had to be there yesterday ] i can only pity them . This "poor" boy is now an professor of chimie at an Univ . Is married with a Jewish girl , and has WELL educated children , who have a great world view , and dobn't have this miserous life those who "study" your material have . They at least are HUMANS . The same day [ related to this boy ] we had a fine meal in one of the top restaurants . Delicious !
86. to 82 , mockery of his class ?
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (08.11.10)
Most of them acted in the same way . did'nt eat kosher , respect Shabbat , never went to a synagogue [ only for their barmitzwa , or for a wedding ] Most of the boys did'nt wear a kippa . All very fine educated children , who earn a good life , contribute to the wellfare of their country [ many are here too ! ]
87. To#86
thinkagain ,   jerusalem   (08.11.10)
Having made the wrong conclusions,may i ask you what exactly did you want me to understand by telling me this story?
88. 84 , yes , because their Jewish school
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (08.11.10)
was'nt a "brainwashing" one , as your kind of schools are . My mother zl said : religious or not , you have to know something .
89. 87 , does your "education" don't make you understand ?
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (08.11.10)
simple things ? that many , if not most , of those children were NOT religious at all . But the parents wanted their children in a Jewish school , to know Jewish boys and girls , this to avoid as much as possible outmarriage . And it lucked in most cases , with a low outmarriage % . I have seen stats somewhere , outmarriage in my birth town , around , or less than 5 % . I personally knew only two cases , one who went to my school; , the second not . Many also made Alyah , we were around 500 people at a "bogrim" reunion some years ago .
90. salma #7
Texan   (02.15.11)
Read 79 best way to put at to you .. What you and you people comlished Tell us complishment then we can congratulate you and you people !
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