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PA says direct talks doomed to fail
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Published: 22.08.10, 00:25
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1. Time to end the freeze
M Carr ,   Baltimore   (08.22.10)
Bibi put in place a ten month building freeze at great political risk to himself to entice the Pals to peace talks. The ten months are almost over so the freeze should end on schedule. If the Pals still refuse to negotiate then the Jews should build, build, and build some more! Pretty soon the world will tire of shoveling bucket loads of aid to these obstinate children. With Obama in office as POTUS the Pals believe (I think correctly) that time is on their side. They will never sign on the dotted line.
2. Which Vision ?
Adam Neira ,   Melb, Australia   (08.22.10)
The settlement freeze issue is just one square of the Rubik's Cube. Which vision for the Holy Land will prevail ? What do the prophecies state ? What does G-d want for the Middle East ? The residents of Judea and Samaria/The West Bank residents must agree to live side by side under the sway of a righteous government based in Jerusalem. A stable, productive, buoyant Holy Land and Middle East is the desired plan for the region. Even if the area was split into two nations i.e. Settlertown and Westbankistan there would still need to be some form of interaction between the two land masses. I am no longer surprised that people cannot see more than two moves ahead on the cosmic chess board. Remember everyone...The universe is stable, ordered, benevolent and expansive.
3. Two tracks, '67 Borders, and the Vote
Steve Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (08.22.10)
Abbas must demand '67 borders, and the Vote in 2 States, 1 Country, Palestine Israel. This solves the "settler" issue allowing Jews to stay, and solves the "right of return" issue allowing the Palestinian refugees to return through legal immigration, same as Jews.
4. And yet again
Arie ,   BaGolan   (08.22.10)
the Palis never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity
5. When will you all learn?? JORDAN is Palestine; only viable
Jae ,   Lynn US   (08.22.10)
option.
6. Mention of Talks exposes setller's true intentions,
Ali Z ,   Washington DC   (08.22.10)
Without peace, they continue to steal land and enjoy free or cheap housing.
7. If, If, If ..."0"...Confidence building measures
Roland Seener ,   London England   (08.22.10)
8. settlers
olim hadashim ,   tel aviv/israel   (08.22.10)
It is very heartwarming for an ole hadash like me to see the existence of such idealistic pioneers who protect us and our soul and prove our connection to the land day in day out..May God also protect them.
9. dangerous course
chanel ,   land of Yisroel   (08.22.10)
This could be opening up not just a can of worms, but trouble unlike anyone in any part of the world has ever seen since the beginning of time. Remember, G-d is One. Nature, supernal worlds, the known and the unknown -- everything -- is G-d. Everything from a simple toe stub to great floods, quakes and oil spills -- everything is G-d. It is but one of the secrets of the universe. It is unwise for anyone -- Jew or non-Jew to go against G-d's promise to the Jewish people that the land of Yisroel was and will be the eternal inheritance of the Jewish people. Also, a non-Jew who observes the Seven Noahide Laws has a part. So, to all those souls who fall in the latter categories, keep your seatbelts fastened. And as we say three times a day at the end of prayers -- "Do not fear sudden terror, nor the destruction of the wicked when it comes. Conspire a scheme but it will be foiled......To your old age I am with you...to your hoary years I will sustain you."
10. Bibi betrayal of voters ?
DT ,   TA Israel   (08.22.10)
Anyone with half a brain could have seen that Netanyahu would be the same "Netanyahu" . If one was that dumb to vote for him you must bear the consequences of a huge "give away" and jeapordizing Israel. Hopefully if the Right -wing coalition will be the deciding factor.
11. NO SUCH THING AS West Bank! ONLY JUDEA & SAMARIA!
PERIOD!   (08.22.10)
12. Bibi is not to be trusted........
Wise Saba ,   Netivot   (08.22.10)
He is very weak.
13. And What about Hezbolla/Hamas/Iran?
Dav Lev ,   Burbank. CAUsA   (08.22.10)
Pre-conditions again, so what else is new? Deja vu. Abbas waisted over 2yrs demanding the 67 borders and right of return, as well as no Israeli construction.; Now, he demands the construction be permanently ended, to avoid ending the talks before they start. More manipulation/deception/perfidy on their part folks. If Bibi acquiesces on the construction...back to square 1. The Pals will demand (67 borders, all of E. Jerusalem, an army, open borders, lifting of embargo on Strip, right to make treaties/have a real army with tanks, planes, etc. And return of Golan to Syria before negotiations. What Obama/Hillary and Mitchell have accomplished is doubtful., except to show that the Palis have not budged one iota. Just the right of return suffices to kill this thing. Then what? Israel will again seem the spoiler..Goldstone will be available, the World Ct will pounce on Israels Cast Lead. Flotillas will abound, while Iran constructs 10 more nuke reactors. Israe must: build, build, build, after Sept 26, or be backed against the wall again.
14. Use Jordan is East Palestine as Leverage
Dav Lev ,   Burbank. CAUsA   (08.22.10)
The Palis are again driving this machine of perfidy. Israel has no backup plan. Abbas will demand the same old things: E. Jerusalem, 67borders, right of return (to Israel), a Pales army, the Golan returned..and econ/military treaties abroad. Israel should counter with: Jordan is Palestine (East), per the British Mandate and Peel Commission. The 48 War voided the UN Partition. The right of return is absurd...except to Jordan. With the aforesaid, Israel can leverage..otherwise, its all the PA.
15. Settlers what a bunch of loosers
Avi ,   Israel   (08.22.10)
Fact is that most Israelis never visit the occupied west bank and would galdly hand this land back to the Palestinan owners for peace, these so called setters are only concerned with stealing land to build their fancy villas. Let them settle in Holon why dont they? They hate the secular public yet at the same time expect us to serve in army reserve duty to protect them. Enjoy it while they can would be my adivse as soon you will become part of Palestine and will live under Palestinan occupation.
16. Calm down settlers,
Salma ,   Palestine   (08.22.10)
Direct talks between "Israel" and PLO aren't going to lead to any major progress ...nonsense talks. Netanyahu will take a positive step toward you soon Mr. Katzover, furnish the place, Baby is coming to the real talks !!
17. Settlers, ask your parents where they came from, get lost
j.j ,   or peace   (08.22.10)
18. Bibi's no fool. He saw what happened to Sharon for betraying
Shalom   (08.22.10)
the public. Bibi would not dare follow such a dreadful operation.
19. Arabs settlers shold ask where theire grandparents come from
George Hassan ,   New York, USA   (08.22.10)
20. Negotiations about what?
michael redbourn ,   Arad - Israel   (08.22.10)
There is no Israeli leadership that is capable of removing 100,000 Israelis from their West Bank homes. The evacuation of a mere 8,100 Israelis from Gaza in 2005 required 55,000 IDF [Israel Defense Forces] troops -- the largest Israeli military operation since the 1973 Yom Kippur War and was profoundly traumatic." Twenty-one Israeli settlements were dismantled; even the bodies of Israelis buried in Gaza were removed. After a deeply flawed 2006 election encouraged by the United States, there was in 2007 essentially a coup in Gaza by the terrorist organization Hamas. So now Israel has on its western border, 44 miles from Tel Aviv, an entity dedicated to Israel's destruction, collaborative with Iran and possessing a huge arsenal of rockets. Rocket attacks from Gaza increased dramatically after Israel withdrew. The number of U.N. resolutions deploring this? Zero. The closest precedent for that bombardment was the Nazi rocket attacks on London, which were answered by the destruction of Hamburg, Dresden and other German cities. When Israel struck back at Hamas, the "international community" was theatrically appalled.!
21. I tooooooooooooooollllld yooooooou sooooooooo
ghostq   (08.22.10)
palis will always draw the "we were ripped off" card just to not negotiate or not accept the agreament they singed, which basically aquivelante to "wedon't want peace, we just like your donation money". oh I guess they will never learn.
22. to #15 I know especially when left wingers established
ghostq   (08.22.10)
them in the end of the 60's. hahaha you got no idea what you r talking about. oh and BTW hebron isn't a setelment niether Gush Ezyon, Gush Ezion is as old as Tel Aviv, oh and not all setlers r religious, I talked to people from Oranit that r totaly secular.
23. Bibi Take Lieberman With You
Dallas ,   Canada   (08.22.10)
This is and Israeli PM alone in a shark tank - negotiating with Abbas, Saudi and UN delegates. A bit of balance at least should line up an equal number on the Israeli side. Steven Harper from Canada as well should attend to give a little better international balance, but especially Avigdor Lieberman's realistic personality should be there as well.
24. #15 Avi - Jews Under Pal Occupation?
Dallas ,   Canada   (08.22.10)
As Abbas has expressed, there would not be one Jew, orthodox or not, living in a utopian Pal state.
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