This is exactly what I expected. You mentioning some story about Roma People getting expelled from France. This the worst example you could come up with. This example has got nothing whatsoever to do with the children getting expelled from Israel. Two completely different issues, you seem to mix up. The difference is the Roma came to France illegally, while at least 1 of the kids parents came to Israel legally, with working permits, approved by Israeli authorities, officially. Aryeh of Jerusalem/ Southwestern France this example is not valid and I dare you again to bring me a valid example, otherwise instead of me apologising to you publicly, I will continue to call you an ignorant and a liar, publicly.

Call me what you want where you want. The fact is, in those countries, the law there is that there is no Jus Soli like in USA or Canada, there is more condition to it. For the roma, I admit I haven't really followed the story. But still, all their children are born in France. (and that is to say that no, they didn't came illegaly, the boundaries of europa are open, you don't need visa to cross from one country to the other there (area Schengen they call this now). They live there illegaly, that something else in law. And like Eli Ishai said, no matter how they came at first. When their time is done, it's done, and they know it well long before coming at first. Then, they are illegal, that's all. Now, please do me a favor and stick to the texts of law !

The texts of laws are supposedly definite and clear. Foreign workers are allowed to come, work temporarirly and have to leave when work contracts expire. Some, possibly do some kind of a work israelis dont want to do, for less salaries. It happens all over the world, in many countries in Europe too. But this is not just a matter of law anymore when kids get born, from that point on, the texts of law we had so far, are just not good enough anymore, possibly ambiguous. Saying "European countries do it as well", well thats something! Not true. I felt deeply insulted. Mr. Goebbels and Mr. Mussolini taught us Europeans a little nugget of wisdom. Repeating a lie often enough, people will start to believe it. I felt insulted, my "modern western european" values being attacked. I assume some in the Israeli media machinery are doing some brainwash work there, it seems to take roots and bear fruit. Anyway when my values are being assaulted, I will respond. Btw, I am convinced founders of Israel like Agudat Yisrael and Ben-Gurion or Katznelson had different ideas too, about "ethical moral values" of the future state in mind, different from this Government's.

So we agree on this : the law is clear, they have to leave, and if not, then they are illegally here. Then, we agree there too, that's there is no law of giving the nationality the anyone born on israeli soil. So, that clear : according to the law, there is no doubt. Now, if you find it unfair, then try to change it. But we can't not obey the laws when we want, otherwise there isn't anymore any laws. Then, now, you are the one saying that "it's not the way of acting of western countries". And now your saying that using this as an exemple is stupid ?!? Finally, as I said, your idea of "the values of modern western countries" is YOUR ideas. As I showed you, it's far from being the rule, it's YOUR opinion of what it should be. Let's now try to open a debate in the country of how to modify the laws. But we shouldn't break them !!!

You just don't get it do you? European Western Countries DO NOT expel children, regardless there is a law or 2 or 10 laws or not. 1st. because sometimes laws are stupid and wrong and they need to be changed/corrected(happens quite often) 2nd because you can not possibly have a law for every single silly shit one can think of. 3rd. there still are values(moral, cultural and ethical) in the Western European Countries(thank god) which count and are respected and if assaulted I intend to defend them, because they define what country I live in and what I stand for. Aryeh if you insist so much on obeying the Israeli law be my guest, feel free to do so. Alternatively ask your government and your MKs to correct them. But I insist, in this special extraordinary case, of deporting 400 children STOP saying "Western European countries do it as well". IT IS NOT TRUE! Have a nice day!

Completely false. They do expel children when they are illegals. Look, in the case of the roms in france, there is even exactly the same discussion about the children. www.lepoint.fr/societe/pour-nadine-morano-certains-roms-se-servent-des-enfants-19-08-2010-1226502_23.php In french newspaper, there is even stories about roms children who where expulsed from german last year... Even the USA do it. I don't know in which country you live in europe, but you don't seem to follow what's happening there. Now, you're funny. You're the one which are using as exemple the "modern western countries" to say Israel is doing wrong, and now, you're accusing me of doing exactly the same comparison with thoses countries. Then, how can we be a country of right and law if we bend the law occasionnally ?!? If we do once, it create a kind of jurisprudence, and then, the next 400 will ask "why them and not us ?" Finally, if you love them so much, why don't you ask YOUR governement to break their OWN laws in order to host thoses children ???