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The battle for Wikipedia: Palestinians counter Israeli editing group
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Published: 28.08.10, 13:13
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1. ALL THE BEST !
SINGER ,   SINGAPORE   (08.28.10)
2. next 'regional WAR will be a Media WAR!
tiki ,   belgium   (08.28.10)
As long as it's WAR it's OK with the Pallies. Looking for PEACE & Palestinians on Wikipedia....you won't find it.
3. "God divided the light from the darkness"
Steve Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (08.28.10)
Wikipedia seeks the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, and finds it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let_there_be_light
4. Some Jews are Arabs
Jared ,   Stillwater   (08.28.10)
Arab is a nationality, Jew is a religion. There are Jews who are Arabs. there are Israelis living in Israel who have nothing to do with judaism!! Is this a propaganda to further isolate Arabs, or does the writer not know the difference? Why not make the title "Arabs and Israelis"
5. why war
John ,   Israel   (08.28.10)
Why do you want to make war, media or otherwise. Hasn't there been enough? Where is the Palestinian peace now? And why do you teach hatred in your schools?
6. Palestinian journalists
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (08.28.10)
That's a fine oxymoron. For those of you who out there who enjoy the odd Stephen King novel, this should be quite enjoyable. Saddle up and get ready to read all about how streets will run red with Jewish blood and the Zionist entity yada yada yada, ad infinitum, ad nauseum. Lots of blood and gore on both sides of the fence. While Israelis have the sad duty of recounting the despicable acts of the Palestinians over sixty-plus years (Where do you want to start? With raiding Jewish settlements? With the Hebron massacre? With the fedayeen? With airplane hijackings? With Ma'alot? Et cetera. Et cetera. You see where I am headed), the Palestinians are tasked with explaining why. Don't envy them. This is going to be interesting, except for the fact that the Palestinian that can write without resorting to excessive hyperbole and gore has not yet been born. Sigh. Let's see how they plan to justify sixty-plus years of violence and terror.
7. Online War
Ralph Levy ,   USA   (08.28.10)
Please note that the Israeli government is ignoring the online war that has been going on for the past couple of years. If Israel continues to ignore this issue and papers like Haaretz and others censor Pro Israel talkbacks there might not be a Israel i five years. Most of the Left NGOs money is used online and for boycotts. The Leftist Ford Foundation gives hefty donations to Wikimedia parent company of Wikepedia. http://ralphsrant1.blogspot.com
8. # 4 Jared
Sagi   (08.28.10)
Utter tripe and nonsense.
9. Ynet stop saying that people who defend Israel are right
rachel ,   usa   (08.28.10)
wingers , I am on the left and defend Israel to my death........enough is enough
10. #8, thanks to arab behavior since 1948
Danny   (08.28.10)
the situation is less and less confusing...
11. ***Sarah***
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (08.28.10)
They will make a fairy tale out of 60+ years of violence and terror... Look at al-Jazeera, nothing but distortion of the truth, plain lies and support for al Queda...and the mad mullahs...
12. #4 - Jared, you are clueless....
Andy ,   ramat hasharon   (08.28.10)
We Jews are a nation AND a religion. An ancient nation and an ancient religion. Arabs are lots of different nations. DNA testing bears this out over and over again. But don't let me stop facts from getting in the way of your opinion. Some of us may have lived among arabs and speak arabic. But we are all one nation. From Russia to North Africa. From LA to Tel Aviv. We are one nation.
13. @ Jared:
Prince ,   Niger Delta, Nigeria   (08.28.10)
Jews have Culture, language, trade/commerce (measuring system), currency, and court system. what constitutes a nationality?
14. @ Jared: Jews have Culture, language, commerce (measuring system), currency, and court system.
Prince ,   Niger Delta, Nigeria   (08.28.10)
what constitutes a nationality?
15. #12
daz ,   uk   (08.28.10)
Ever read the book "Invention of the Jewish people" by Shlomo Sand a very interesting read indeed.
16. IT IS CALLED PALLYWOOD
Mark from Georgia ,   USA   (08.28.10)
Imagine that a new word had to coined( Pallywood), because of the numerous lies, fabrications and staged events, put out by a single group of people (the Palestinians). Have no misunderstanding, these are well coordinated efforts with the media, the government and the local population, working in collusion. With one purpose to mislead the western press, and falsify the history books. Simply Google the the word "Pallywood" and watch the "youtube" video. CASE CLOSED
17. To: No. 4
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (08.28.10)
There are no Arab Jews. There are no Jewish Arabs. The two are mutually exclusive. Period. Full stop. Get it? Oh -- by the way -- "Arab" is not a nationality, it is an ethnicity. Duh.
18. to # 17 but there are lots of Russians ..etc.. though?
jj   (08.28.10)
19. 12. Only interesting for someone with anti israel agenda as
Ya'aqove ,   Qfar Hanasi, Israel   (08.29.10)
you had before reading anything. Are african americans, though many whites and native americans exchanged DNA and thats why they are no longer as "black" as africans, no less black? Just because half of the Jewish world- the ashkenasim (europeans) have some Kazar interlopping does not thwart A) their religion B) their dominant ancestry which is Jewish since antiquity C) Its ironic that an anti semite like you does not even realize that few if any converted to Judaism the last 1900 years under the watch of the very bloody merciless catholic church and Islamic wakf. Mostt Jews today are descended from the Jews of antiquity. But even if some werent the land of Israel is the JEWISH NATIONAL HOMELAND. Now, what dont you understand?
20. to 6
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you acted against the ordinary palastinian not the jornalists or -hahaha- the pa propeganda ...... the ordinary palastinian lift his hand if there were still a hand with wounds lift his child if there were still a child without parents .it is images from gaza the siege without food and the images of blood over the ship and their guilty that they want to help childrin of gaza ... lastly the pa jornalists no need for propoganda .. palastinians do it better than any political panning .. it is from people to people
21. to 14
(08.29.10)
yes may be better than nigeria .but not better than me here in jerusalem .. iam araby and moslem
22. 19 Theonly right european have to Palestine is UN181
lydia ,   Brisbane   (08.29.10)
The Jewish 'Homeland' is only within the borders of those outlined in the UN Partition Plan( UN181) and Israel decl of Ind. NOTHING outside these borders belong to Israel. If and only until ALL aspects of UN242 is adhered will the principal stakeholders give recognition to the illegal annexation (theft) of their land. Until then Israel illegal occupation will remain illegal even if Israel has to slaughter all the Palestinians.
23. #17: Said as a true Lawyer! This is TRULY
Israeli 2   (08.29.10)
TRUE, VERILY SO! What a brilliant Jewish mind as compared to some DO DO's.
24. Since the war is a media war, it is in
Robert Haymond ,   Israel/Canada   (08.29.10)
Israel's interests to ban Maan News from Israel. Let their journalists congregate in the Westbank which should be the centre of their interests anyway. Has anyone else read Maan News? Right beneath our noses Maan News continually posts anti-Israeli articles, never balancing the news, even using such rabid Israeli Israel bashers such as Uri Avnery who make it a practice to demonize their own people. And while we're at it, how should we contend with the saboteurs right within our own midsts such as Haaretz, a newsline based on destroying our nation. I used to read and comment on Haaretz until I finally reckoned it was useless to post as no more than one of a dozen of my submitted posts were being accepted. I even tried recently (last week) after reading a few articles but, of course, nothing had changed. In the meantime, every anti-Israeli and anti-semitic poster around the globe is accepted. How can the few of us fight on behalf of Israel when the Israeli government itself allows others within its borders to break us on each and every occasion. I must admit, it has become very frustrating. We need Israel to move forward, to put limits on journalists and media outlets. The idea of unbridled free speech which Israel has prided itself on does not mean much when one side is given to portraying all sides of a conflict whereas the other (Maan News, Haaretz, et al) justifies its existence by demonizing Israel and disallowing contrary opinions. And this is not to mention the considerable (and powerful) Israeli academia (see isracampus.org.il) which insists on "free speech" as long as they, the Israel haters amongst them, are the only decision and opinion makers. So Israeli government, you need to make it easier and more possible for us, the literate Talkbackers and letter writers, to defend you.
25. Jews, Arab...Arab, Jews
Madai ,   USA   (08.29.10)
Good news! Yes, let's go for Media War, Psychological War, Dispute War, or Video-Games War. Those are all good wars. No one will be killed. It's a real revolution that we should come up with: Stop all armed wars that leave many dead & wounded, & let's start a new era: The Era of War from behind our computer screens. & Enjoy!
26. Yes "Araby and Moslem" #20: Like
Robert Haymond ,   Israel/Canada   (08.29.10)
that heartrending photo of Mohammed Dura, a child supposedly shot by Israeli soldiers until the truth came out and we found that a French photographer had photoshopped those photos in order to prove how besotted and dirty were Israeli soldiers when, in fact, the whole scenario never occurred and after the photoshoot Father and Son went off into the twilight very much alive and together. So we can't very well believe in Palestinian photos nor witnesses now, can we? Incidentally, the French photographer complicit in this false testimony and false propaganda is now being sued. What do you say to that, Mr. Anonymous?
27. to 26
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mohammad aldorra was my noughber .he was shot ..this is the truth if you do not believe or you believe .it is upon yourselfe to trust photoes or the truth
28. #4 Iraqi Jews are not Arabs. Go read your history
IraqiJew ,   London,UK   (08.29.10)
#4 Iraqi Jews are not Arabs. Jews from Arab lands are not Arabs. They were from Judea and left after the expulsion to Babylon in 586BC and later the Roman expulsion in 130AD.
29. Iraqi jews are not Arab
Rafik ,   Algers-Algeria   (08.29.10)
What about Algerian jews ?????
30. The battle of all battles
Xena   (08.29.10)
The battle began a good while ago; Arabs have been weaving a web of lies which the international anti-Israel movement is only to happy to accept as gospel's truth. Arabs will have no problem making Wikipedia pages more pro Palestinians- they will get lots of help from people, including Israelis, who will be more then ready to help propagate the false Palestinian narrative dished out these past 60 years. It will be interesting to see if they will discuss in these pages how their misery has been self-inflicted, how they have cleverly diverted attention from their corrupted leaders, totalitarian rule and economic failures, all of their own making. Will they ever acknowledge that their Arab brothers have manipulated them, stoking the fire of hatred, encouraging the Palestinians to play the victim role so that the game could go on and on? Such a pity that the Arabs did not accept the UN's 1947 two-state partition plan – all the terrible wars and misery on both sides could have been avoided. Instead, Israel continues to be subjected to relentless hatred and threats of annihilation, and is left alone to fight the battle of all battles – survival of the Jewish people in the Land of Israel.
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