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Turkey fumes over Iran VP's 'genocide' remark
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Published: 28.08.10, 15:17
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1. The Turks indeed committed a genocide of 1.5 million...
Jehudah Ben-Israel ,   Qatzrin, Israel   (08.28.10)
...Armenians and keep refusing to apologize for their action. As they refuse to apologize for using CHEMICAL WEAPONS against the Kurds, and as they refuse to apologize for mass murdering hundreds of thousands of Kurdish people. As they refuse to apologize to the Greek Cypriots for having invaded their island country and having expelled all Greek Cypriots from one third of the Island. And as they refuse to apologize to the Jewish people for the sinking of the Struma with many hundreds of refugees from Nazi Europe, and for hiring the Islamists thugs of the IHH to break the lawful blockade of Gaza, thus causing the violence that followed.
2. can't these liars get their story striaght
reality check   (08.28.10)
this just goes to show what a bunch of nuts the iranians are .. they can't even shut up about their allies ... anyway, i would sent mr baghaei any message you want qucikly as in a couple of weeks he will probably havve an accidnet courtesy of the ayatollah ... face it, he's a goner
3. It was not accurately translated
USA   (08.28.10)
He meant to Armenians commited mass suicide and the word genocide came out. You know how it is.
4. So funny.... but why?
richard ,   The Hague   (08.28.10)
They are so predictable and so funny...the iranians as well as those turks. It looks like they are not in love any more. I wonder what happened...
5. Even the friends of Turkey
Johnny ,   Nazareth   (08.28.10)
the iranian regime are saying that turkey had committed a genocide!! This is a bit funny... Erdogan has no more friends, he has failed....
6. the Diplomamatic jargon between barbars
john US   (08.28.10)
Like most, if not all diplomats,they disseminate so many lies, so many fairy tales, that they don't remember where the truth lies ; as it isn't taught in the school of "ruffians" -- Moliere missed that one. a nice addition to his " school of wives" and school of husbands.
7. turkey commited genocide, iran wants to
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (08.28.10)
iran is just jealous that they can't make the same boast, though they are actively talking about their plans to wipe out the jews of israel.
8. That genoside was always a political tole to play with turks
Omri ,   Israel   (08.28.10)
In other words iran wanted to back away from turkey for some reason. My guess is turkey dissapointed them when they told USA they will not cut ties with Israel.
9. Turkey-Iran
J.K. ,   Brooklyn USA   (08.28.10)
Iran : Turkey commited Genoside,what's this, a quarrel between the new sweet hearts ?.
10. IT'S TIME
American ,   Los Angeles,USA   (08.28.10)
It's time for Israely politicians to get in line with the rest of the world and to recognize the Armenian Genocide.
11. Some people never learn,
AING.org ,   Washington DC   (08.28.10)
It was just a few weeks ago that Iran made a mockery of their super-ally, the Brazilian President Lula da Silva on stoning issue. Silva wanted to get some international and domestic credit by help the woman from being stoned to death, and Iran asked him to mind his own business. Turkey went to the extent of severing her relations with the US, Israel and the rest of civilized world and rest of the world just to get close to Iran; that’s what they get. Next in the line is Russia and they think Iranian Mullahs will stick with them.... ah, Ok!
12. Iran vs Turkey
Eli ,   Modiin, Israel   (08.28.10)
Turkey and Iran are bedfellows just for the time being because both want to resurrect their glorious empires and, thus, are geopolitical adversaries. To understand why Iran has mumbled about Armenian genocide, one has to look at the relations between Iran and Armenia who share a border and are close allies. For Armenia, Iran is one of the major trade partners, the sole source of foreign currency and the one who helps to retain the Nagorny Karabakh region captured by Armenia from Azerbaijan in the 1991 war. For Iran, Armenia is a major clandestine rout for banned industrial and military supplies coming from Russia, Ukraine, Belarus and Europe. So one can view the Iranian statement is a small reward for Armenian service.
13. WHAT ABOUT THE KURDS ? :-)
BENJAMIN ,   SINGAPORE   (08.28.10)
ON AREMENIANS THEY MURDERED ( GENOCIDE ) NAZI OTOMANIAN POWERS. NOW THE KURDS ARE MURDERED TOO ! SO ANY COUNTRY WANT TO SPEAK FOR THE KURDS ? TURKEY LOSS HER REPUTATION THE DAY THEY SEND THE FLOTILLAH ! TURKS NO LONGER OUR FREINDS ! BLOODY FOOLS CANT EVEN SEND SOME AID TO THE SUFFERING PAKISTANIANS.
14. how could anyone
pini ,   usa   (08.28.10)
Deny the armenian genocide. Why are the turks so touchy? Demand an explanation? I don't think the douche could have been more clear. Go to war with each other do the world a favor
15. #1-14 why doesn't Israel recognize Armenian Genocide?
observer   (08.28.10)
do you know why Israel doesn't recognize Armenian Genocide? The Knesset decided to shelve a proposal for a parliamentary discussion on the Armenian genocide, in compliance with PM Ehud Olmert's request. The state of Israel does not officially recognize the Armenian Genocide, despite the fact that the Jews themselves were victims of a similar genocide for which Adolf Hitler himself used the Armenian massacres as an example. do you know why? The official story is that a group of Muslims -- known as the Young Turks -- were responsible, but there is a lot of evidence that the Young Turks were Crypto Jews. In fact, a Jewish historian claims that in 1908 the Young Turks began conscripting Jews into their army. Sabbatai Zvi proclaims himself the Jewish Messiah in Salonica. He leads thousands of Jewish followers on an exodus to Palestine. On the way Zvi becomes a Muslim. His followers saw this as God’s plan and also become Muslims. In 1716 a group called the “Donmeh” forms in Salonica headed by Sabbatai Zvi’s successor, Baruchya Russo. In 1900 the Donmeh numbers over 100,000. Known as “Crypto Jews,” they appear to be Muslims, but were Jews. In 1891 a political group from the Donmeh forms called The Committee of Union and Progress, later called The Young Turks. The group is headed by Freemason Jew Emmanuel Carrusso with the help of the Rothschilds. In 1908 the Jewish Young Turks revolt and force the Sultan Abdül Hamid II into submission. In 1914 the Jewish Young Turks bolster the paid assassin Gavrilo Princep which sparks WW I. In 1915 The Armenian Holocaust engineered by the Jewish Young Turks leaves 1.5 million Armenian Christians murdered.
16. crypto Jews
observer   (08.28.10)
a group of Muslims -- known as the Young Turks -- were responsible, but there is a lot of evidence that the Young Turks were Crypto Jews.
17. What Iran is doing to Turkey
David Israel ,   New York, USA   (08.28.10)
Iran is using Turkey and the islamic AKP government for their support. However Iran does not want Turkey to be the leader in the region. Iran want to dominate the ME (hence develop nuclear power) and unfortunately the Turks are letting themselves used by Iran. This is a game of power which Iran is playing much better then Turkey. When the Turkish people understand that they have to stick with the western civilized world and restore their alliances with USA, EU and Israel only then they will become a serious player in th eME together with Israel and the West. otherwise they might end up loosing together with Iran Syria and their allies. WW I Deja Vue all over again.
18. #15 and #16 observer?
Mark ,   Lodz, Poland   (08.28.10)
If you Wiki 'young turks' there's no mention of Jews being involved. The amount of tripe you dream up has no boundary. The reason Israel hasn't recognized the Armenian Genocide to date is simply because Turkey has been an ally....that might change, mind
19. Genocide?
Monastras ,   Istanbul   (08.28.10)
Yes Turkish jews actively took part in the process of Armenian removal which was necessary. We can not call it genocide but there was a great human suffering. Bear in mind armenians weren't the only people who suffered during the dark days of the empire. Muslims or jews all sort of turkish people geratly suffered at the hand of great powers.
20. They all stink
Paul ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (08.28.10)
It's a depraved world when those who commit genocide are respectable among the nations and Jews are the scapegoat for every moral deficiency of the world. Turks have a despicable history and are now the defenders of the despicable Jihadists in Gaza.
21. #15 Israel doesnt recognise the genoside but
Omri ,   Israel   (08.28.10)
also doesn't not recognize it. Israel just refuses to speak in the matter because after all its a weapon against turkey. Yea turkish jews did part of the action just like the muslim turks, the christian Turks and any other turk. Thats because in turkey Jews had a relatively fair standing so they were so strongly tied to the turkish society that turkish jews saw themselves more as turks then jews.
22. TO 15 & 16 - OBSERVER
BENJAMIN ,   SINGAPORE   (08.28.10)
IT WAS THE DONME SAID TO BE A HEBREW HERESY- I READ IT IN THE BOOK WRITTEN BY R.SETON WATSON--- THE RISE OF NATINALITY OF THE BALKANS :-) THE JEWS OF TESSALONIKA WHO WERE ALSO SUPPORTED BY THE JEWS IN VIENNA , BERLIN AND BUDAPEST AND ALSO OF PARIS AND LONDON :-) THE THEORY I STHAT, JEWS ARE YOUNG TURKS AN DFOLLWOERS OF SHABETAI ZEVI ( I READ- SABBATAI ZEVI THE MYSTICAL MESSAIH BY GERSHOM SCHOLEM THE TRANSLATED WORK BY R J ZWI WERBLOWSKY. I ALSO SAW THE THE POTRAIT OF NATHAN OF GAZA 1667 ! THE WHOLE DIVISON OF THE ASKENAZIM AND SHEPARDI IS A RIFE THROUGHOUT THE JEWISH HISTORY ;-) WE HAVE ALL THESE BOOKS HERE :-) THANK YOU BEN SINGAPORE
23. PAYBACK, IT AIN'T PRETTY
Mark From Georgia ,   USA   (08.28.10)
In a way it is funny, Turkey who accuse Israel...falsely...of all kinds of heinous acts, can't hide the fact that their brutal treatment of the Kurdish and Armenians, makes the Israeli actions they condemn, pale in comparison, with their brutal treatment of other ethnic minorities. Turkey lives in denial, and like the other Muslim countries in the region punish their citizens for speaking the truth. Now Iran...for reasons unknown...are calling Turkey to the carpet. Somethings up. Some kind of back dealing politics, some sort of blackmail, Iran wants something from Turkey, it will come out in time. The world press is often used to send messages...most of which...we will never know. It's the old... I'd like to be a fly on the wall...move. The region is so complicated with intrigue and backstabbing, who the heck knows what's going on half the time.
24. #14-15
truth ,   new york   (08.28.10)
Mel Gibson? Is that you? Its the old muslim lies.... we've heard it all before... "the jews are responsible for the armenian holocaust, 9//11, WW1-2, etc etc. yawn!!! its getting old. come up with a new lie already.... just look into your koran.... shouldn't be too hard.
25. David Israel, your opinions do not hold water...
Persian CAT   (08.28.10)
Iran and Turkey are forging an alliance that transcends the "traditional" definition of the "leader" in the region. Iran and Turkey later joined by Syria, Iraq and the "Af-Pak" will be the charter member of the emerging market block otherwise known as the "New Middle East", a term used by Condi Rice and Donald Rumsfeld to describe the new geopolitical/economic arrangement that will define the ME in the 21st century and beyond. Your claim that Turkish "people understand" they have to "stick" to the Western "civilized world" does not have legs to stand on either. I wish you had presented ANY date to support your brain fart, but you didn't because there's none. The New Middle East has enormous amounts of water, gas, oil and other natural resources. Add large numbers of 15-30 year-olds who are hungry for educational services, car and electronic gadgets, soon you will be looking at the new emerging Asian tigers. That's why the West needs them, not the other way around. Israel's policy must recognize this fact and join this block or be left out in the dark shivering in fear and insecurity as it is today. You see WWI, I see the next economic boom.
26. Israel should organize a Flotilla to the Armenian Refugies
Isaac ,   Israel   (08.28.10)
27. Crypto Jews? Another Turkish LIE.
Shoshanna ,   TelAviv, IS   (08.28.10)
This is the excuse that Turkey gives to cast blame off of the evil deeds conducted by the corrupt Ottoman Empire. Nothing changes 2010. Turkey attempts to break the Hamas Blockade defiantly ---and uses "charity, humanitarianism" as an excuse. Humanitarians IHH that is connected to a terrorist group that came weilding knives, clubs, weapons and hostility to the safety of Israel. Turkey give it up your excuses get lamer and lamer ever year.
28. Tempest in the tea pot...
Persian CAT   (08.28.10)
Every year the Iranian people along with the substantial Armenian-Iranian population of Iran mark the anniversary of the Ottoman era events in Iran openly and with regularity. The Turks always raise some objections about it until the next one comes around, again the same noised are made and that's that. This year for obvious reasons the Turks want to show there are still issues that can mar the very stable relationship between the two neighbors. Therefore this is more a "media event" than anything else. Neither country will be talking about this tomorrow, trust me.
29. Turkey has not "severed" its relationships with
#11. FYI. ,   USA   (08.28.10)
anyone. Not with the US, nor with the rest of the "civilized", and certainly not with Israel. Although Israel just killed several unarmed Turkish peace activist in International waters. Israel knows it will pay the price for that crime in some manner, therefore everyone understands what needs to be done. BTW, Iran-Turkey border was determined in 1620, and it has not been violated by either country once. So nobody is sticking anybody. I'm sure your uneducated feeble mind cannot fathom these complicated things, but thanks for trying.
30. My friends of the Home Office...
Humphrey Apleby ,   Whitehall, UK   (08.28.10)
already knew. There's no solidarity between the Arabs, Turks, Persians, Pakistanis... Sure, they share their same "believes", but when it comes to decide who's the "Überleader" of the Muslim world, they bicker and even plot against each other. Why do you think we were able to control those former colonial possessions for the crown? Divide et impera. E.g we used Sikh soldiers to "quell" the uprisingsof their natural enemies, the ppl who believe in the prophet who ascended to heaven on a horse in Al-Kuds/Yerushalayim/etc. So, don't worry inhabitants of the former British Mandate. Your "enemies" are as divided and polarized as, sadly, your own society (e.g. haredim, secular, left-right, pals, israeli-arabs.)
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