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Artificial peace messages
Gerald Steinberg
Published: 01.09.10, 00:14
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1. PA real intentions made clear last night
Ilan ,   Ariel   (09.01.10)
They send one group to talk to the cameras while their real intentions are carried out by their policemen murdering people on the roads.
2. Calling a crime a crime is not a crime
Steve Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (09.01.10)
..and calling the cops on the criminals is also not a crime. Jews are not above the law.
3. If Obama cannot come through the front door, he'll force his
Harry Wright ,   UK   (09.01.10)
way through the back door. This is no surprise because he is an immoral manipulator and learnt con tactics well from the Chicago streets. He became president through the back door, ably assisted by his questionable friends. The American people are slowly learning about the con artist they voted in as president. Now he is using advertising to try to shape people's thinking in foreign lands. If he succeeded with Americans, then why not with Israelis and Arabs. I bet he would not try that with the persians. Expose this and all rotten projects fully.
4. Obama attempting to label Israelis the obstacle to peace
RB ,   USA   (09.01.10)
Obama wants to blame Israel for all the problems in the middle east, including Iran's nuclear program. The peace talks are a trap, so Obama can blame Israel when they inevitably fail.
5. USAID and CIA
Ralph Levy ,   USA   (09.01.10)
Google USAID and CIA and take a look at all the times it mentions possible connections between the two agencies for funding. http://ralphsrant1.blogspot.com
6. Mr. Hutzpa ,...
split ,   USA   (09.01.10)
Why don't you refuse our military aid our "loans" that never pay back, our charities, give up all the privileges, entitlements, etc. and get the hell out of our lives.
7. The essence of the Muslim-Arab conflict with Israel
Jehudah Ben-Israel ,   Qatzrin, Israel   (09.01.10)
Fundamentally, the conflict at hand, one between the Muslim-Arab world, local and regional, and the nation-state of the Jewish people, Israel, will be resolved once the Muslim-Arab world cease its categorical refusal to accept Israel's legitimacy. 97.2% of the conflict will be over once the Muslim-Arab leadership states, in Arabic, Hebrew and English, its acceptance of Israel's RIGHT to be, to exist as the nation-state of the Jewish people. Will the Obama/Clinton/Mitchell team be able to resolve this predicament by convincing the Muslim-Arabs to accept Israel's legitimacy, to internalize it and to demonstrate to the world that it has...?? P.S. The Jewish people, within and without its nation-state of Israel, is hopeful, indeed very eager to finally see an accommodation of peaceful coexistence between Arab and Jew, between the Muslim-Arab world and the nation-state of the Jewish people. Do the Muslim-Arabs feel the same...??
8. To #6 & Ynetnews
Tom W. ,   Windsor, Canada   (09.01.10)
I am a Jew; I’m sick and tired of seeing Israeli on-line newspapers publishing the hostile ravings of crazed anti-Semites on lies such as: the IDF kills Arabs & takes their organs in order to sell them on the human organ black-market for retransplantation, that it was the Israelis that forced United States to invade Iraq (truth was it the Iraqi National Congress led by Ahmed Chalabi that fed all the information to the U.S. government and pushed for the invasion of Iraq in order to overthrow Saddam Hussein) and of course the continued lies that the U.S. gives Israel massive amount of loans (they’re loan guarantees NOT cash money). So listen split, why don’t you show me where you learned that the U.S. government not only gives loans to Israel (as you say) but Israel somehow doesn’t payback this fictitious money! Also I refuse to spoon feed the facts to people like you, research how much in loan guarantees the U.S. gives Israel per year and then see the statistics on how much the U.S. was spending in total per week in Iraq (at the height of the conflict) & Afghanistan; it was the same amount of money! Also in terms of dumping truck loads of cash, research how much money the U.S. has given Pakistan (that’s not loans that’s just giving them cash which does not need to be repaid) and learn the truth how the Pakistani military & intelligence departments have diverted a portion of this money to fund the Taliban. All the anti-Semitic ravings in the world can’t replace the truth that the U.S. is indirectly funding the enemy who is killing and maiming American troops. It’s people like you that scapegoat Jews in general and malign Israel with your incessant lies; it’s you that needs to get the hell out of our lives!
9. More clumsy propaganda.
Terry ,   Eilat - Israel   (09.01.10)
Most sane people will just laugh. Only the most naive idiots will believe this crap. Say, why didn't they get Bin Laden to do a spot? Right, they can't find him. Maybe he'll come to the grand opening of the Ground Zero Mosque. Then, Obama can do some more ''out-reach'' to the Muslim world. They should have included the Hamas spokesman, at least Hamas tells the truth about their intentions.
10. No. 6
(09.01.10)
Never pay back? Are you out of your freaking mind? Not only does Israel pay back the loans, but all their defense expenditures are with American companies. But judging from your comments, I suspect it's not about the money because you don't seem to have a problem with the fact that we give nearly the same amount to Egypt and what the hell did they give us? Oh, yes I forgot. They sent us some of the hijackers on 9/11.
11.  You're right ....it is a ridiculous idea !
Salma ,   Palestine   (09.01.10)
US Marketing Peace to the "Israelis" ! US Marketing conflict to Palestinians! Apparently for the first time the victim marketing itself to the torturer... and what is the result?! all Mr.Steinberg & many "Israelis" want is surrender and they'll tell us what they want us to do !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
12. To Split
Carl   (09.01.10)
Your military "aid" consists of funds that must be spent on US arms. This money keeps US arm factories going. Israel is the only reliable US ally in the middle east supplying intelligence, port facilities and a deep water port. The US is doing Israel no favors.
13. To all the Split's (post #6) of the world
Tom W. ,   Windsor, Canada   (09.01.10)
I promised myself that I wouldn't spoon feed people like you with the facts but I insist on giving you one link regarding the U.S. government's loan guarantees to Israel which most likely you would not have found it on your own: http://www.jewishfederations.org/page.aspx?id=36454
14. #12 - "aid" consists of funds that must be spent on US arms
split ,   usa   (09.01.10)
It's still my money - In regard to the rest of your post it's nothing but hasbara bulls..t ,...
15. #2 A Crime..., #14 Aid...
Solomon ,   Bklyn   (09.01.10)
#2- Jews are not above the law. But somehow you think Arabs are. It is they who arrived after 1900, once Jews improved the economy. It is they who say one thing in English and another in Arabic. It is they that threaten annihilation of the "other", ie Jews. But facts don't count with you. #14- Obviously you don't care about facts either. You should read the link posted in #13. But I know you won't. You don't care about facts and are afraid of them.
16. Salma
yaakov ,   jerusalem   (09.01.10)
No nation, other than the ancient nation of Israel and later again in 1948 with the rebirth of the 2nd Nation of Israel, has ever ruled as a sovereign national entity on this land. A mighty Jewish empire extended over this entire area before the Arabs --- and their Islam --- were even born! The Jewish People have one of the most legitimate Birth Certificates of any nations in the world. Every time there is an archaeological dig in Israel, it does nothing but support the fact that the Jewish People have had a presence there for well over 3,000 years. The national coins, the pottery, the cities, the ancient Hebrew texts... all support this claim. Yes, other peoples have passed through, but there is no mistaking the fact that Jews have always had a continual presence in that land for over 3,000 years. This predates and certain dwarfs any claims that other peoples in the regions may have. The ancient Philistines are extinct. Many other ancient peoples are extinct. They do not have the unbroken line to this date that the Jews have. And if you want to talk religion, fine. G-d GAVE the Land of Israel to the Jewish People. And G-d does nothing by accident!
17. #14 Split, I'm more than happy...
Yossi G. ,   Jerusalem   (09.01.10)
to take your money, and quite frankly, I don't appreciate you complaining about it.
18. Security brings peace
BH ,   Iowa   (09.01.10)
not the other way around.
19. # 15 - You should read the link posted in #13.
split ,   USA   (09.01.10)
I did and riposted with links but it looks like the censor didn't like it ,...
20. 17. #14 Split, I'm more than happy..
split ,   usa   (09.01.10)
You don't have to brag about it - But there's a problem, dude ,... One day, a scorpion stood on the side of a stream and asked a frog to carry it to the other side. 'How do I know you won't sting me? the frog asked. Because if I sting you, I'll drown, the scorpion said. The frog thought about it and realized that the scorpion was right. So he put the scorpion on his back and started ferrying him. But midway across the stream, the scorpion plunged its stinger into the frog's back. As they both began to drown, the frog gasped,'Why?' The scorpion replied, 'Because it is my nature.'
21. Israelis should invest in anti-Obama ads for the midterms.
Chaim ,   Israel   (09.01.10)
IF Obama wants to invest in dishonest ads portraying bloodthirsty PA terrorists as "peace makes", Israelis should feel perfectly free to invest in honest ads portraying Obama as the worst president America has known for atleast a century. Right in time for the November midterm elections.
22. they are dead
samira ,   gaza   (09.02.10)
did sadat and arafat and king hussein wanteted the peace with israil that controlling the west bank and building more and more settelment ...i think no it was not their peace ..and even if this was the truth iam here my friend there we are alive we will never accept the setelments or the ocupation .. peace is with the living people not the dead .but israil has a big illusion that the palastinians are dead
23. The world & Jews seem to like ghettos
Realitycheck ,   Jerusalem Israel   (09.02.10)
If these "peace plans" are implimented it will be the death knell of a Jewish State & in reality we will have just created one more small Jewish ghetto that will survive until the next pogrom.The world & it seems most Israelis like ghettos 60% prefer to live in the narrow Gush Dan strip and we certainly know the world likes its Jews to "know their place" In no manner or form will the new borders of Israel constitute anything even remotely resembling a "country" more like a "county" in little Rhode Island.
24. Some people are never happy
Ariel ,   NYC/Jerusalem   (09.03.10)
C'mon Gerry - be honest. What would make you stop blaming the Palestinians for everything? You even manage to find fault with a campaign in which Erekat addresses Israelis with the word "shalom" and apologizes for disappointing us. We need to change the zero sum game mentality you adhere to which is dooming us all to a future of misery. And first and foremost, peace demands an end to a 43-year old occupation that has deprived millions of their basic civil rights, and Israelis of the right to be proud of what could be a wonderful country.
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