Jewish Scene
Rabbinate bans sale of non-koshered meat
Ari Galahar
Published: 02.09.10, 07:29
Comment Comment
Print comment Print comment
Back to article
47 Talkbacks for this article
32. Yamit , in my west Eurtopean country too
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (09.02.10)
horse meat was , and is , sold . There was even a butcher who ONLY sold this meat . This just after the war , some 60+ years ago .
33. #14 and #28: MY sincere apologies.
Israeli 2   (09.02.10)
Thank you Charles #28 שנה טובה
34. Twisted Logic
Ron ,   Melbourne, Australia   (09.02.10)
If the issue was confusion then more distinctive labeling would have been an obvious solution. But then there is no confusion about the religious authorities position on consumer choice and people freedoms - their so called Morality is that their values and desires trump all other people wishes - using the excuse that it is not them who made the call for tyranny - it was an invisible being from another dimension ...
35. HUH?
jimmy ,   Brooklyn, USA   (09.02.10)
Something makes no sense. Why stop the sale of this meat?? Just make sure that it is labeled appropriately. When I was growing up, the local Jewish supermarket had a big sign stating that all meat was not kashered. How hard is that??
36. Non Koshered Meat
ZSI   (09.02.10)
I actually applaud the Rabbinate on this. It should have been done years ago. It is a VERY BIG stumbling block in front of people who do not know any better about Kashering. I remember when I visited Israel for the first time when I was 14, and went into a supermarket and saw Lo Muchshar on a lot of the meat, I remember thinking why are these supermarkets which are supposed to be kosher selling non-kosher meat? Then I found out it meant that the meat was not soaked and salted (the koshering process), but was slaughtered properly. But I was still confused, why would they sell it like that? Wouldn't, some, people eat it as is? If they did, then what's the point in selling it? That's why in America virtually all kosher meat comes to butchers fully koshered from the factory. It took long enough to get there, but finally did. Yashar Koach!
37. stop running our lives pls.
marko ,   tel aviv   (09.03.10)
stop running our lives pls. let every person decide what and how they want to eat,and not some fool who thinks he knows best
38. Hoy! Rabbi Metzger mate looky here..
Terry McLeod ,   Adelaide, Australia   (09.03.10)
Ya is a funny Rabbi mate with two standards, most of the meat coming from Uruguay, Argentina and the Great United states of America is not kosher at all and you dare label it kosher, does ya reckon cause ya puts your blubber stamp saying "Kosher" then it is? Righto mate good double standards ya gots there. www.peta.com has all the hidden camera proof mate that the cattle slaughtered for Jews is not kosher rather bogus kosher. According to your kashrut laws Rabbi an animal better not be tortured during ritual slaughter but painless and none agonizing and none terrorized killing is allowed. The filmed footage shows that animals are tortured beyond imagination and all with your Jew butchers knowledge and under his supervision. t is called a billion dollar business a day and money is what makes it kosher not Jew ritual rulling. And yas wonders why us none Jews despise yas all, it is cause most of yas are double standard. Hoo roo ya moo.
39. #2 Are you quoting the New Testament?
jd ,   UK   (09.03.10)
#2 says: "Chief Rabbi Yona Metzger should be more concerned with whats coming out of his mouth and not what goes in" I am a gentile and a Christian and I noticed that Matthew 15:11 also says: "What goes into a man's mouth does not make him 'unclean,' but what comes out of his mouth, that is what makes him 'unclean.' " I wonder if this was intentional or an accidental parallel!
40. Ridiculous!
Joel ,   London, UK   (09.03.10)
I strictly keep kosher and still strongly disagree with the Rabbi's actions. Everyone should be free to eat whatever they want and live however they please. If the Rabbi is concerned that Jews are accidently buying non-kosher meat, he could have simply called for better labelling to avoid this.
41. Self hating Jews join #38 "Mel Gibson
Realitycheck ,   Jerusalem Israel   (09.03.10)
It seems you poor persecuted secular former Jews or Jews by accident of birth most likely from Tel Aviv area have a lot in common with #38 the Australian Anti-Semite you both hate traditional Jews, Perhaps you could join forces somehow many Jews in the past have joined the anti semitic camp a well known phenomena first you rebel against your parents then against your faith then against your people.I recommend either you seek immediate couselling or mental health treatment or go to Australia and within days you can be marching with #38 and other former Tel Avivians in an anti Israel or Neo Nazi demonstration why continue to torture yourself here under the severe and cruel religious restrictions that are forced upon you daily ! It must be almost impossible for you to function and its not going to get any better by all statistics religious and traditional Jews are set to demographically make you very soon into a minority.So go for it.. youll be happy we'll be happy !! Happy End, Ufortunately #38 is too far gone for any help consumed with hate and the poor deluded soul has to deal with a different type of demographics the growing Islamic and Asian populations in Australia.He probably doesnt know who to hate first poor guy . thankfully for the rest of us you are becoming a minority demographic minority so start building defense around the Cinamatique for a "Custer's Last Stand "
42. #26 Turkish Moslems hunt/eat/pigs
Thislittlepiggy ,   Jeusalem Israel   (09.03.10)
The BBC did a program a year or so ago about Moslem Turks somwhere in eastern rural Turkey that hunt wild boar and it showed them cooking and eating them,They claimed they were good Moslems but ate what was prevelant in their area for meat.You could probably google up the story
43. Unfair to the poor
Norman Gellman ,   Rehovot Israel   (09.03.10)
The rabbi’s actions are just another ramification of forcing everyone to abide by his version of religious observance. His actions add to the burden of the needy as they now cannot buy the less expensive unsalted kosher meat and salt it at home. Some meat can be koshered over an open fire, if not we would not be able to make chopped liver for example. What is needed is better education and soft persuasion. Using these “hammer” techniques can only lead to an eventual break up of modern Israel. Haven’t we learned anything for history? The zealots were
44. The rabbi has it all wrong...If indeed he wanted
Al   (09.03.10)
to encourage more Jews to eat kosher he would be more accomondating. His agenda is quite obvious..Todays Rabbis are to my mind a chillul hashem..They know nothing..They know very little yiddishkeit. Yiddishkeit is a combination of Jewish law and simple common sense. You try to make it easier for people to keep the mitzvos...But no these petz know it all. Why not allow 'nisht kushergemacht' meat to be sold? The families who buy this meat want to eat kosher but they want to save some money. Again these 'Rabbis' (they are not Rabbis..they have become mafia business men) show themseves of how disconnected they are from the Jewish people. No small wonder people get disgusted with them and as result they disengage from judaism. Good Shabbos to all!
45. GOOD ONYA RABBI #41
Terry Mcleod ,   Geelong, Australia   (09.04.10)
# 41 Your clerical leader, Rabbi Metzger is only a bloke with a political mob behind him of alike follow the leader mates. It is you that is lookin out for ya ways only cause it keeps ya comfy and mommy like secure mate, and that is cause it is all famila to ya. With all ya wrote sarcastically and with a high degree of labelling is pathetic of ya, but again that’s you. Ya knows nothing about Oz other than a www.ninemsn.com.au head line here and there. Since ya like sending people who have opinions that differ to yours mate, it is only cause ya went to therapy for yonks yourself (which apparently didn’t help us much) till ya made your nest in Jeruaslem, cause ya couldn’t force or voice your ways back in America where you resided mate without fearing street level reprisal. Yeah Rabbi wants yeah sheep will follow but what do you know about sheep other than lamb chops, sheep always remain in a flock no matter what, so it doesn’t matter really who the clerical leader is. You labelled me anti symmetric, ya like labels don’t ya ya tosser? Another’s view or opinion of a made public matter or issue, is no qualification for mental ward hospitalisation or group therapy and alike treatments for ailments of the mind mate, never was in reality, just in your teeny mind. When we give our opinions you want to hospitalise us and for not thinking like you, what does that make you ya drongo? Ya afraid to post your name like we all do, didn’t know your mama’s apron what that large Lol. The meat mate the meat what ya’s got to say about the meat and it not being kosher for real and your brethren consuming it daily? Here ya only talked about yourself and your dented perception of others opinions, here ya made it look like only mongrels like you are going to be the majority in Palestine while all others will dissipate soon. Ya call me a poor guy mate, yeah well my own account holds 1.7 million Aussie dollars, i have gold depsits of $230,000, my land is worth another 680,000, i bring in farm profits of 80,000 each month and i am only 35, how old are ya and what have ya made yourself? I have 3 brothers and 2 sisters, my own inheritance is worth another 1.2 million, believe me mate i am not poor, good onya for trying. Another thing ya wog, just cause i despise double standards mate doesn’t make me a anti Semitic or a rebel as you labelled me and others, it makes me realistic of the issues, i don’t like two faced people with double standard values. You are frustrated and a mess as you are insecure, get straight march mate march to the tune of Yankee doodle as you walk to work for yet another day at your menial job while i horse ride on to my next paddock and hand feed my lot for market next month. You bring home your 3900 shakels and i net my 80,000 profits give or take a few head. Have a safe and happy Ramadan mate. Hoo roo from Geelong.
46. 41 , reality
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (09.04.10)
It's your kind of "jews" that give antisemites , as this aussie is , the arguments to hate us . Not that we have to give in to them , but at least not to hate the Jews who are not following the torah . While living abroad i have seen some samples of your alike's behaviour , that , if i was'nt Jewish by myself , would have made me an antisemite . And don't tell me that i'm a self hating Jew , it would be the most stupid thing you ever wrote . But tell me , who will feed you when you will be the majority here as you say ?
47. #36
Dorothy Friend ,   Tel Aviv   (09.08.10)
Because there are some orthodox Jews (like other people) who must totally stay away from salt for medical reasons. Would you deny them meat?
48. Some people who keep kosher....
Dorothy Friend ,   Tel Aviv   (09.08.10)
....cannot eat the koshered meat for medical reasons because of the high salt content. The grill everything, like liver, which isn't soaked and salted. This kind of thing will even create problems for some observant Jews. I hope they go out and protest because I buy my meat at Hinawi, anyway, which actually sells kosherly slaughtered meat anyway, not Halal surprisingly.
Previous talkbacks
Back to article