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Soldier admits to looting Turkish ship
Hanan Greenberg
Published: 02.09.10, 10:58
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1. Ship should have been sunk after terrorists removed.
Bunnie Meyer ,   Los Angeles, CA USA   (09.02.10)
2. They should be jailed
Zach ,   Israel   (09.02.10)
How selfish could people be? In a time when the entire world is looking at Israel to see how they handle the situation these soldiers take it upon themselves for personal gain. This is treason. Jail them.
3. Looting
i love Israel ,   Germany   (09.02.10)
Why are they covering their faces? They should have been ashamed while planning to commit such senseless acts.If they are real men they can show their faces and ask for forgiveness. because doing wrong is menschlich
4. THE MOST IMMORAL ARMY IN THE WORLD !
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. /   (09.02.10)
5. Turkish ship was sent to help the enemies against Israel
Shalom   (09.02.10)
According to the Torah the military soldiers have the full right to take the booty of the enemies for themselves (Deutronomy 20:14)
6. I can see NO wrongdoing here...
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (09.02.10)
If you take things from peolple who have tried to kill you first...So what...??? This whole b.s. could also easily have been sunk altogether... Nothing to be ashamed about...
7. #6 Chris, they "tried to kill" the soldiers? Really?
Albrecht ,   P.O.   (09.02.10)
Why did they not killed them?
8. #4, You are not the Sarah I like so much
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (09.02.10)
9.  to #.6 no wrongdoing
i love Israel ,   Germany   (09.02.10)
Chris.Israeli Soldiers do not need to steal turkish Lap Tops or(Lappentopf) They allready have the better Technology to overcome their enemies.The Lord of Hosts is on their side.When you're in the world'r crosshair you should keep your hands clean.
10. No wrongdoing!!
Vinay ,   Bangalore,India   (09.02.10)
Well i believe there is absolutely no wrongdoing here by the soldiers. Israel should not punish these soldiers.,and instead RELEASE THEM ALL IMMEDIATELY WITHOUT ANY TRIAL.the ship carried suspected terrorists and the soldiers have the COMPLETE RIGHT TO CONFISCATE AND USE ANY TECHNICAL STUFF WITHOUT ANY NOTICE.
11. #8 - The soliders were lynched
Tahl ,   Ashdod   (09.02.10)
It is clearly shown on the videos from the takeover. Metal rods, chains, chairs were all hurled at them, some were stabbed with knives. The only reason they remained alive and free, is that other soldiers came to their rescue, and killed some of the lynchers.
12. What kind of Education did they get ?
Realitycheck ,   Jerusalem Israel   (09.02.10)
It would really be interesting to know their educational backgrounds were they secular religious Jews Druse Beduin and where did they get their core moral education from and then get to the "why" they did it Not engough just to find them guilty we need to know what made them do it to prevent it in the future as they brought dishonor to themselves their families and their nation.
13. Jewish Pirates
Bon Levi ,   Perth Australia   (09.02.10)
No wooden legs or talking parrots perched on the shoulder here, just our very own kosher buccaneers, low-life thieves and an embarrassment to Israel and the IDF.
14. My comment (#11) was directed to #7.
Tahl ,   Ashdod   (09.02.10)
15. #6, Chris
(09.02.10)
Stealing and looting is illegal in every civilized army and country. Besides this, looting soldiers show a lack of discipline and this has to be punished anyway (from a military point of view). May I ask you a private question, Chris? What's your purpose writing all these kinds of talkbacks on ynet? Is this some sort of "Vergangenheitsbewältigung" (process of coming to terms with one's history)? Why are you trying to be more 'pro-IDF' than the Israelis themselves by defending EVERYTHING they do, no matter what it is.
16. no.15
hebrew prophet ,   israel   (09.02.10)
Thanks for the insight into the Arab mindset as Hezbollah cannot be an army of god then as it does the exact opposite of a civilised army and country ,steals ,loots ,hides behind civilians, use their private dwellings as rocket launching pads ,uses ambulances to transport fighters in a war zone, stores weapons(rockets,bazookas)in Mosques, uses residential areas, East Beirut, as a military base with underground bunkers and command centres right within the civilian population ,a somewhat damning indictment of so called moral Muslim army?
17. looting and plundering IDF soldiers
jo moor   (09.02.10)
Jail sentence is good. Turkish jail better?? Remember Midnight Express movie??
18. #4 SARAH B
BEN JABO ,   ISRAEL/USA   (09.02.10)
How come you neglected to mentioned that they're being Courtmartialed for what they're alleged to hae done ? Every country has some misfits, for instance, the USA has you
19. #7 Albrecht
BEN JABO ,   ISRAEL/USA   (09.02.10)
It's real easy to answer, they didn't kill the soldiers because other Israeli forces were immediately at hand, including a helicopter with machine guns, hovering directly above the Marmi
20. #9
jo moor   (09.02.10)
Well spoken. Stealing is a crime and why steal lower technology anyway!
21. #10 Vinay
jo moor   (09.02.10)
Vinay from continent India. To confiscate as part of your duty and to steal for personal gain are 2 completely different issues. The latter is CRIMINAL - its like sport match fixing - it should be punished severely.
22. All armies have some bad apples in them, even IDF
Bloodyscot ,   Dallas, Texas   (09.02.10)
Part of the problem is that Israel must rely on its army more than most countries and its dangerous for the IDF to be seen as corrupt or weak in any way.
23. #16, hebrew prophet
(09.02.10)
What's your point??? Hezbollah is looting and so it is okay for the IDF as well? Has it come so far, that the Muslim extremists dictate Israel what's right or wrong? Don't the Israelis have their OWN moral values? Why is it for some people so difficult to admit that something went wrong? What are you afraid of?
24. To # 1
Hertzel ,   Tveria   (09.02.10)
They should have sunk the ship with the terrorist ON IT !!!
25. The laughable anti-Israel writers
Mark from Georgia ,   USA   (09.02.10)
This is a simple case, a few soldiers are common thieves. Big Deal. Of course we have the anti-Israel writers gloating and sarcastic, as if they proved all of the IDF immoral. Are you guys that desperate? It comes as no shock that every army in the world has some criminals. That's why there are military prisons. The IDF caught the thieves, arrested them, now they are indicted and will go to court, have a trial and if found guilty have a court-martial, and jailed. Why the anti-Israel writers are so desperate to "prove" this reflects on the all of the IDF, doesn't pass the laugh test. What's more immoral catching a few thieves in the IDF, or Hamas committing Murder. Get your priorities straight, Geeze, you guys are fools.
26. By Their Fruit Ye Shall Know Them
World Citizen ,   the world   (09.02.10)
A corrupt society creates corrupt children. It is as simple as that.
27. to #11 We need to find out why others
jason white ,   afula,israel   (09.02.10)
are draft dodgers and what kind of religious or left wing education they receive? Why do they let others risk life and limb to protect them while they shun their national duty? Then we should throw them into prison for ten years to reeducate them, along with their teachers and parents. They bring dishonor to the state.
28. Re: No. 4
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (09.02.10)
I did not author that post, which anyone with half a brain has probably already figured out.
29. To: No. 18
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (09.02.10)
I did not compose the post at No. 4. You can apologize for that "misfit" remark at your leisure.
30. Which terrorists?
Ibrahim ,   Istanbul   (09.03.10)
the Mavi Marmara had individuals abroad it holding Diplomatic passports. These individuals were politicians/ Statesman from the UK, Turkey, Australia and the EU. An Israeli member of the Knesset was also onboard. Do you classify these Internationally protected people (Geneva Convention) as terrorists? To assert that all those onboard this ship were Israeli blood thirsty animals is a great injustice to humanity and all religious norms. Yes I concede that there may have been a handful of ppl with other motives but this does not make the ship one full of terrorists. It is very hard to convince one that Furkan Dogan, the US teen that was shot 19 times at point blank range was a terrorist trying to undermine the security of the State of Israel. It is time that we look at this incident objectively. I for one am one of those Turks that believe that this ship should not have sailed to Gaza but I too believe that these individuals should have been treated in accordance with International law. Furkan Dogan should not have been mercilessly butchered for a mere political statement.
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