I'm eagerly waiting to hear, when would this usual whining come up?

I wish "Angel" well and his family be put in jail. I bet the right wing talkbackers are completely confused by this story- who do we hate more- the Arabs or the homos?

...a gay is an Arab? And when HIS family hates him?

These people are a real riot. Having a son who works as a drag queen will dishonor the family...but murdering him won't? In fact, the authorities should add "conspiracy to commit murder" to the other charges because this family already made their intentions known when they stabbed him. Damned imbeciles.

Two killed in shooting at Tel Aviv gay center. So it is not about Arabs or Jews, but about closed-Minded or Open-Minded. thank you !

No Jewish parents have threatened their gay son over an online photo depicting the gay son as a transvestite? Homophobia doesn't exist in Jewish society? Haredim anyone? You've got to be kidding me. The verbal and physical assaults on the boy are despicable, but let's not kid ourselves and pretend violent homophobia doesn't exist among Jews!

Why would rightwiners be confused? Homophobia is really quite common among Arab populations.

since when is actively instigating family ire an open-minded behavior? It is not as if he did not know what this sort of thing(s) will lead to when he did these things in his family's face. Besides Arab culture is less "open-minded" as you call it than Israeli. Proof is a recent documentary by a homosexual celebrity going into Israeli (Jewish of course) families who had a homosexual child come out in order to understand why it was difficult for his father to accept it from the start. (it too him at least a year to be able to meet his son's partner.) No such documentary can be made or shown in Arab culture. And Jewish culture does not have "honor killings." So it is not about what you claim to be an open minded society but rather a a Medieval culture vs a decadent liberal culture. While Arabs are unwilling to change the Israelis are a society which has (almost) given up all its taboos. These are actually two very radical worldviews that are totally incompatible with each other.

While many Jewish or Christian parents willnot appreciate their son being a drag queen, they may go so far as to cut connections(rather rare more than common) but honor killings? Sorry, that is not a part of our culture. It is just not-no argument there, no comparisons can be made. Look at statistics, facts, murders of children/daughters-it is all there in black and white. Realizing there is a problem and facing it is the path to change. Claiming it exists equally in others is denial.

no. And we do not have honor killings either.

Homophobia definitely exists in Jewish society but I have never heard of a parent threatening to kill their child because they are gay and the concept of family honour is an arab muslim concept. It is not as strong with Jews. I can see the kidnapping happening to relgious jews but secular jewish society allows for pluralism even when they don't like the idea.

If you don't believe me, go to Beirut (if you can) and see the thriving & open gay scene frequented increased by Europeans! If kissing in public does not qualify as Arab momentum to openness, I don't know what does. Beirut is today's TA in the gay scene. Amman and Cairo follow, and you will be surprised at how much their respective governments are in the know.

who killed them, it could be from their own community on personal issue. before you take an exemple check all the facts.

Why does it take THREE times for charges to be brought up on the family members? Is it because this individual is gay??? Although Jews, Haredi or secular, don't actually kill family members for being homosexual, if the child leaves Haredi culture, some will act as if the child is dead by renouncing them and sitting shiva.

Defend your sick society by attacking ours. Your gay card is officially revoked. LOL!! Show me one example of honor killing of a family member among Jewish Israelis. Just one. Of course we have homophobia. But ours (Jewish Israeli society) is the ONLY place in the entire Middle East where we have a modicum of freedom as gay men and lesbians. Unless you have an arab family trying to murder you that is. Tell me, honey, are you out to your family? All of them or just a few cousins?

While the methods were criminal you have to have a little sympathy for a family not wanting a child to end up as a drag queen in Tel Aviv's seedy underworld a fate worse than death usually involving drugs prostitution and violence and that has occaisionally brought death to some. He needs counseling to help him see his future clearly and then make his decision.Something not understood here is the close family ties . An Arab cannot live forever disconnected from family certainly not in this part of the world.Show him his choices .

From high in the Jerusalem hills another lone voice judges all the inhabitants of Tel Aviv for their obvious connection to a seedy underworld involving drugs, prostitution & violence!!! What is understood here is that Angel quite obviously wanted to cut the ties with his / her homophobic family, thus no amount of counseling will change that decision, or the choice of being a drag queen. This Arab Gay man has made his choices willingly & that is what we have to admire and respect.

Just over a year ago, some a masked person walked into a drop in centre for Gay kids, shot it up and killed two young people and injured 15 or so others. This was applauded by some sectors of the religious Jewish community in Israel. A number of the young people who were injured in the attack and were hospitalised were then disowned by their families for being gay. So please save your self righteous and stop denying that Jewish kids are also being murdered in Israel simply for being gay.

some pickle tickle from a big dude.

none of the kids that were hurt and recovered have been shuned by their jewish families. i attended yeshiva there for 3 years and all the kids that were hurt were brought back home, some to canada and some to the usa and accepoted, cared for and nurtured by all their families. do not compare jewish families to the barbaric practice of honor killing in muslim society. two of my freinds that are american citizens that were hurt and are gay have one gone back to usa and the other to his family in jerusalem. stop the lying. stop the bitter disinformation. all the jewish kids are safe and sound with their families who love and accept them completely. i should know. i learned with them at yeshiva and keep in touch with each one of them and their parents. chaim solomon jerusalem, israel

You're assuming that this kind of violence happens among religious Jews, but can not give a single concrete example--so how do you know? I do know a religious woman whose son is gay and living in Tel Aviv. She is very pained by it, but would never dream of using physical violence!