Islam has this quibble with having subjects who should be dhihimis having sovereignty in their midst. If Syria were ruling over what you Sir. call Palestine even the local Arabs (you call them Palestinians would have no beef or a will for independants. What the Arabs in Israel and the administrative territories cannot countenance is being in a country run by Jews. That is the root of the problem

1. "Israelis can’t even agree on who is a Jew. " No, actually a Jew is anyone who's mother is a Jew or converted to Judaism. 2. "The Israeli population will always have a non-Jewish minority." And if France doesn't have a 100% french population then they cant be a country of french? 3. "Israelis will eventually evolve to a state where Judaism no longer matters under a One State solution." I'm sorry i couldn't stop laughing at that one. Israel was made from the start as a shelter to Jews everywhere that's the whole point of it and that's what so many gave their lives for. If you think that's what the Israeli public think then you really know nothing about us. Now stop pretending you do. "As for the Arab countries, well they must be quite bemused that Israel thinks so highly of their opinions that it can only feel secure within itself if it gets their recognition." So what happened to Egypt and Jordan? Even the Palestinian stopped making suicide bombing a fashion. So no, with time the hate only passes, it doesnt stand strong. What a common uneducated anti-zionist thing to think that as long as Israel exists it can't have peace which leads you to finish with a "Israel needs to stop existing so wars aren't made forever". "Most countries couldn’t care less what Israel calls itself and they are certainly not bound to recognize any such distinction." Come again what countries? Because for what i remember most countries had agreed to the Jewish state of Israel in the UN vote. "Israel can demand to be recognized as a “Jewish state” all it wants but the simple fact of the matter is that it is nobody is under any onus to recognize it as such." What??? You really think no one in the world recognizes Israel and its definition of a Jewish state? This foolishness is just too funny, make it stop!

Nobody is afraid of this leftist propaganda any more as par demography. The worst can be "Gaza to Egypt and WB to Jordan" full stop. They never held Israeli passport but the reverse as been the case. Arafat was an Egyptian and most palistianians hold Jordanian passports

There are many arabs around the world living in foreign countries where they are a minority group and recieve arguably better rights than anywhere in the middle east. Israel is now already a hebrew jewish state, you questions can already be answered, The arabs may not be the most powerful group in israel but they have representation in the parliment There is some animosity but with real peace, not just on paper, like the pieace between australia and new zealand, you will become a valued part of israeli society. Continue fighting us or working against us and you will always rightfully feel rejected.

for those "refugees" aren't coming back and we agree to borders then those are the borders. You can't pull a Hizbollah and suddenly "discover" you "own" more land.

It's because anyone can say anything about the Jews and about Israel these days, no matter how preposterous or offensive. Just say it because almost nobody respects Israel now. Next you'll have the PM apologizing and explaining why Israel wants to be Jewish. Anyway, it would be good to remind the Egyptians that their country is called The ARAB Republic of Egypt. The majority of the country are not Arabs but an Arab minority from Arabia has been occupying and dominating Egypt for centuries. Christians, Jews and other minorities have always had a hard time in Egypt, but he's concerned about minorities in Israel.

You really think it was all happy before Zionists came? Just because the Arabs where conquered all those years doesn't mean that they didn't make war so they are peaceful, after all THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO GO TO WAR. But they did do a lot of Islamic independence war such as the Arab uprising 1936-1939. While the Jews at the time we didn't have a country, we got put in ghettos and persecuted throughout all the middle ages and after that faces extremely strong anti-antisemitism that in the end got us our holocaust. Yet you think it was all happy while Israel didn't exist ah? Maybe for one side it was but have you looked at the other side? What happened when there was no Israel? This one sided look brings you to either a lefti-propaganda balloon, a racist or a common fool. Also you seem to think Israel is going down. Yes, history has shown us that what the future is. And it looks bright to me. One last thing, you seem to think Jews lived happily with the Arabs but that never happened for the Jews where always sub humans to the Muslims (forced to wear a Jewish star for example and always walk lower then a Muslim walking next to you).

thats why it was created... #10 is right. it seems, now even the politicians fall for their own screwing up of history, as it is found in their population... kinda embarrassing, this one.., there will be no right of return. look at the history, there has never been such a thing. and in this particular case, the people who quite a few times tried to "kill 'em all" are making claims. its a bit weird, to be honest...

He's talking like his country is Switzerland.

Belal, what are you talking about? Do you demend the right of return for Germans expelled from Breslau, Danzig, the Sudetenland etc? Do you demand the right to return for Poles expelled from their lands by Russia? Do you demand the right to return for Kurds expelled from their homeland? You don't? Then how dare you demand the right of return for Palestinians?

More civill rights than they will have in any Arab country..Arabs never stop amusing me

what about the non-Arab Copts and Africans? Israel is defined as a Jewish state in an ethnic sense- the majority of the laws and practices are Western and secular. Judaism gives it the flavor and not the definition.

Egypt is defined as a muslim arab state as well and I wonder how do the christians there feel? The Jewish people has a Jewish state just like the Egyptian people have an Egyptian state, whats wrong with that? It's Jewish not cuz of religion but cuz of our Jewish nationality. DUH!

No Palestinian leader can DARE to make Peace with Israel. Even if they wanted to.

Or does Arabs killing Jews count as "Peace".

I won't speak for the Christians, but to characterize Jews and Muslims as living in peace after the 1929 riots which effectively denied Jewish rights to the Kotel and other areas, along with the murder and expulsion of Jews from Hebron is nothing but an outright lie. Arab hostility to Jews, who unlike the majority of Arabs are indigenous to Israel with a 4,000 history on the land, caused an immigration policy at the hands of the British that makes Arabs culpable for the murder of millions of Jews in Europe. You have no homes now because you took away the lives of others. Don't ask us for redress, ask us for forgiveness.

I'm a bit pressed for time, so I'll respond in more detail later. European countries like France have a much more cohesive majority than Israel. My own heritage is Irish, and unlike the Israelis, the Irish have no trouble distinguishing who is native Irish and who isn't, and therefore who is entitled to Irish citizenship. Despite the recent influx of undesirables from eastern Europe and the Middle East, the Irish continue to be a much larger majority than non-Irish...whereas the Arab minority in Israel will someday overtake the Israeli majority. Will you still be calling it a Jewish state then? The UN made some mistakes in the past. At the time of the vote in question, UN member states were overcome by a sense of guilt over the Holocaust. Their judgment was clouded about the true nature of Zionism. That was finally rectified with the Zionism is Racism declaration. Sadly, the UN has since compromised its principles.

"Palestine" was never used to refer to any arab holdings until an Egyptian created the false entity of an arab Palestine. Prior to that time Palestine was always meant to refer to Israel. That Egyptian tried to convince the works otherwise and tried to pass himself off as a member of this non-existent culture. That Egyptian was Yasser Arafat.

See subjec line.

Israel was already declared as a Jewish state by the UN in 1948. Israel does not need the UN's or Arab approval to exist, ever. Arab countries expelled all Jews living in their countries and stole all their assets when this happened. The UN is a leftie Islamophilic organisation and not to be trusted.

Why? If you continue to attack Israel, the day may come when your countries get flattened ! Either Israels army will do it or Israels God or a combination of the two ! Remember pharao ! '' He who curses Israel will be cursed !''

minority. unless the Muslims abuse the chritians in Egypt.

You would see no difference. Israel is a democracy unlike the other two examples you vomited up. Try as you might to seem intellegent Persian, you are quite ignorant.

OK, I'm just playing dump but where do you get such ideas? From the history dept at the Farfur Institute? The PLO comic book of Palestinian History? Your sense of history is, well, ridiculous as well as blatently stupid but what the hell, go ahead and continue to make an ass of yourself in front of your betters. BTW, regarding your equally obtuse post #22, where will you go back to? I have a feeling you will need air conditioning big time. (:-}}

Your giving the Irish a blackeye with that low rent racism Matty. BTW Matty, where did you get that name? Matty is short for Matthew which is the Christianized version of Mattisyahu, no? A fine Hebraic name as there ever was. So while you are lowering the image of Ireland and it's colloective IQ, why don't you get yourself a book about Zionism and read it before Ireland disappears from the intellectual world funny man. Like the man said old boy, "There are lies, damned lies and statistics. Your statistics are crap. Beat it Matisyayhoo!

Save your breath Girl. Talking to morons is an exercise in stupidity. Losers like Belial, Matty, Persian Crap Artiste, Mahmood, His gal Pietro il Viennse, Marco, Steve Benasssswipe, Jens from the Fatherland and the rest of the low brow knuckle draggers is a waste of time for a chick from NYC. No matter how much info you try to bring up, you are ultimately talking to life forms that don't hear you. I on the otherhand bring up their false facts and shove it down their gullets New York style. I used to live near Jamaca Ave in Queens {born and bred]. Later Girl !