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Soldiers pictured aiming rifle at Palestinian detainee
Yoav Zitun
Published: 12.09.10, 22:43
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1. :: More examples...
Matty Groves ,   Fairport   (09.12.10)
...of ‘brave’ IDF soldiers living up to the Israeli claim that they are “the most moral army in the world”. And people wonder why Israel has a ‘PR problem’?!
2. Military Prosecutor
Ricardo Macher ,   Karnei Shomron IL   (09.12.10)
is a shame for Israel!!! Cares about political values and is worth nothing! Should be eliminated in shame from the IDF ranks, each one of them, small "jobniks" afraid of fighting!!!
3. and Guilad??
martine ,   ashdod   (09.12.10)
Do you know what the palestinians do to him? I'm not sure that it's just pointing a rifle on his forehead. We should stop complaining after what our army do to the prisoner, I'm sure that our prisoners wouldn't be treating like guests in their jails. So stop being more white than white, we can't. IDF soldiers are just men and women with all the qualities and defects that made them, IDF army. We won't be more considerated and please stop showing those images cause it could be more dangerous for those soldiers.
4. ""Many good IDF combat soldiers and officers have
Doug ,   Rochester, USA   (09.12.10)
been photographed in similar pictures" Sounds like the LEAST moral army in the world.
5. #1 huh?
Israel Israeli ,   Tel Aviv   (09.13.10)
You are complaining about some rude gestures? Last week the American press reported that American soldiers murder Iraqi civilians for fun and cut of their fingers as souvenirs The report joins Obama's heroic execution of Mustafa Abu al-Yazid's infant granddaughter, and you talk about morality?
6. ...but this is what you EXPECT from Nahal.
Kfir ,   Israel   (09.13.10)
Just saying. ;)
7. This is NOTHING...the guy felt NO fear...
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (09.13.10)
because he was blindfolded... Come on, this was nothing more than a joke... The only ones who should be ashamed, are the ones who are even mentioning such meaningless incidents... This is NOTHING...
8. 2 wrongs DO NOT = right
A Jerusalemite ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (09.13.10)
Because others have done it before does not excuse this behaviour. These people are merely detainees, they are not convicted of any crime. They are not yet even accused of any crime but merely suspects. The behaviour of the soldiers under these circumstances is not acceptable. Neither is using 'the context of our reality" as an excuse.
9. #5 Israel Israeli - Matty just has a MUTTY mouth
CK Tan ,   Singapore, Singapore   (09.13.10)
The US army has done FAR worse things (including the ones you highlighted) but Matty is more than happy to POINT his paws at Israel regardless.
10. This is only what was photoed
Joseph ,   West Bank   (09.13.10)
We only see the very few things captured on film that the Israeli authorities release. There are many other IDF abuses and humiliating acts that don't have pictures for them. This is very small compared to the things IDF does for Palestinians without pictures.
11. #4, yeap should follow Hizbollah's example
Danny   (09.13.10)
and display body parts for an auction.
12. So what, like this is new?
Mark from Georgia ,   USA   (09.13.10)
Here are pictures from WW2: http://www.archives.gov/research/ww2/photos/images/ww2-173.jpg or here: http://www.archives.gov/research/ww2/photos/images/ww2-175.jpg or here:German Gen. Anton Dostler before he was executed: http://www.archives.gov/research/ww2/photos/images/ww2-171.jpg or here: A column of German prisoner's http://www.archives.gov/research/ww2/photos/images/ww2-171.jpg Hundreds more from every war in mankind's history. You want to punish them for pointing a gun at a guy who doesn't even know the gun is being pointed at him, please, save it. How about Hamas, actually killing innocent civilians. You really are a bunch of jerk-off's. This is nothing.
13. REMEMBER: These are terrorists...
IDF56 ,   ISRAEL   (09.13.10)
First and foremost people should understand that these who are being humiliated are slugs who in one way or another attempted to do bodily harm to Israelis. What if the terrorist in these pictures had a suicide belt and a map to your daughters school? To the hospital where your father is being treated? Would you care so about their dignity then?
14. If the officiers are doing it .........
john US   (09.13.10)
Imbeciles are found the world over, in all armies. Zahal is no exception, except that they brag too much. " Schvitz " is very Jewish., to the delight of matty groove, the US warrior par excellence. He fought in the Alamo single handed against all odds.
15. American soldiers raped and killed a whole family.
Mosh ,   Canada   (09.13.10)
American soldiers raped, killed, and then burned a whole family (the Mahmudiyah killings). In Iran they've been imprisoning, raping, and even killing protestors. Go find something else to report. This is nothing.
16. Aiming weapon at prisoner
Dave ,   Canada   (09.13.10)
What fools! The soldier would be remiss and should be prosecuted if he did NOT aim his weapon at the prisoner. As far as rude gestures, I have never seen this one with alternate forefingers pointing in opposite directions. Please find some commonsense
17. Photos taken by soldiers
Ros ,   Tel Aviv   (09.13.10)
What kind of soldiers do we have in the army now? Has the IDF gone mad? They should be put in jail or given a dishonorable discharge. Wake up everyone - where has our strong, moral army gone!!!!
18. Mosh and nothingness
Sean ,   Montreal, Quebec   (09.13.10)
So you think that: because other atrocities exist this behaviour then becomes excusable? Do you need to be reminded to turn the clock back sixty, or a hundred or even two hundred years to know what it is like to be treated without dignity and be judged collectively? Do you honestly believe that this is the worst that they do? Do you ever wonder... if the justification for such actions is that it is a war, why do people continue to call the combatants on one side terrorists? Kinda odd, eh.
19. no.18
hebrew prophet ,   israel   (09.13.10)
Hey Sean ,it,s time to stop with the propaganda already as the only people who treated the Palestinians badly etc. were the Palestinians themselves ; the greatest conman and rogue Arafat didn,t care one iota about his Palestinian brethren ,only the billions of European/American taxpayers dollars interested him,the Hashemite King Hussein wouldn,t allow his feifdom to be given to it,s rightful inhabitants ,the Palestinians instead he ethnically cleansed the feifdom in September 1970 ,murdering tens of thousands of them and sent hundreds of thousands more into exile across the Arab world ,we only want the truth here ,nothing else ?
20. no. 18
hebrew prophet ,   israel   (09.13.10)
Sean,s childish Palestinian mentality cannot bring itself to mention the 1972 Olympic Games massacre of Isreali/Je wish athletes by murderous leftwing Palestinian terror groups the likes of the Italian Red Army ,the Baader Meinhoff gang or the 1970,s bombings of airliners carrying Israeli s/Jews ,the Leon Klinghoffer wheelchair bound Jewish paraple gic thrown overboard still in his wheelchair by more murderous leftwing Palestinian thugs ,after they hijacked a cruise ship with the intention to murder Jews whereever they could be found ,the list goes on but i,ll refrain from causing more crocodile tears to another stupid Pa lestinian.
21. oh c'mon
Lizbeth   (09.13.10)
Oh! How horribly immoral to point a gun and raise your middle finger!!! Tsk tsk. Looks silly and sounds silly-who are the idiots trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill? Let us all pray that that is the worst that was done to Gilad Shalit.
22. PPL in glass houses shldn't point guns
Josh ,   NY, USA   (09.14.10)
you have no idea why this guy was picked up - does he look like he already had a trial or is he just guilty of being born Arab? Israel GOD help you, your hatred is just as bad as your "enemy"
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