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The emperor has no clothes
Rivkah Lubitch
Published: 26.09.10, 08:59
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1. Rivkah, you're against the solution...
Orly ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (09.26.10)
You may feel there is a lacuna in halacha that can and should be filled with a "solution." However the solution exists. The Orthodox pray thrice daily for the reestablishment of our judges as in days of yore. This is not a fairytale - if you want it. But you are a legal citizen of Israel with the right to vote. Should our "halacha," which you seem to believe is the anchor of our "religion," be in full force (the Torah, contextually, does not say "One who burns a fire on Shabbat will impurify his soul" it says "shall surely die," which contextually refers to stoning, or at least facing a trial for a capital crime), then the solution already exists: a governmentally authorized force can approach Siman-Tov and beat the crap out of him until he truly wants to divorce his wife, at which point he hands over the bill of divorce to a messenger of the wife and the marriage is terminated. But you prefer to live in a world where the aspirations for which you ostensibly pray are imaginary. The judges, the halachic vision of Jerusalem, the Davidic Monarchy, the Messiah, the Temple, animal sacrifices - they are all sewn with invisible thread that only the wisest and the brightest like yourself can see. I say to you: "The emperor has no clothes!" If you want it then it is not a nighmare.
2. misquoting, yet again
observer   (09.26.10)
So Lubitch has found a statement in the talmud about annulling a marriage and has re-interpreted it to fit he agenda. I don't deny the seriousness of the situation, and think that mr siman-tov should be knee-capped, or perhaps rather, in Afghani fashion - beheaded. But misquoting talmudic passages that any beginner recognises will not advance the debate. Conditional marriages are a feasible option, and were we to be certain that their application would remain in the hands of competent rabbis, could be implemented. But it is because of people like Lubitch, who seek to push every boundary beyond reasonable debate, that no one can know how the situation will evolve. It may well get to a point that irresponsible people try to take over, as we have already seen in the of conversions.
3. Israel Is A Theocracy
World Citizen ,   the world   (09.26.10)
With its reigning mullahs........I mean rabbis. How could any civilized country let its rules of marriage be dictated by the religious fanatics of a Bronze Age relic religion?
4. Refused a Get
Bruria   (09.26.10)
I read a story about the last Jew in Afghanistan and if this is the guy, then you all should know that there is a Jew(s) in the US who send him Kosher food for Pesach,etc. Why don't they just tell him that there will be no more "gifts" until the get is signed?
5. Can't cut off his supply...
Nofit ,   Carmiel   (09.26.10)
...he's waiting to retrieve a 500 year old Sefer Torah from the last synagogue in Afganistan. He doesn't care if he has kosher food or not.The Torah is worth 3 million USD, and was confiscated by the Taliban. He's trying to locate where it went from there and expecting to leave with that treasure.
6. @World Citizen don't "dis" our relic!
Nofit ,   Carmiel   (09.26.10)
Israel is not short of religious fanatics, but these are not the fanatics of the Bronze Age, these are the fanatics of 2010 - they know where the sun goes at night (and are by no means technopeasents either, they know exactly how a flourescent lightbult can be activated by passing by a motion sensor or by a cellural signal). The forefathers of our country are not even completely decomposed. David ben-Gurion declared this coutry a "Jewish State" and the last government of Judea was a rabbinical one. But the rabbis have been keeping up with the goings on in the meantime. I don't know where in the world you are, but no doubt you are limited to marital constraints from incestual (consenting adults) to plain old adulterous (consenting adults). So you go back and examine your Blue Laws, ritual stonings, or whatever is holding your country back centuries - or millenia - but the decisors of ever evolving Jewish law will define the Jewish nature of the Jewish State whether it relates to marriage, divorce or when the national banks are closed for a national holiday (I'm "sure" in your country the banks don't close on a day considered holy by people who did not know where the sun went at night [sarcasm]). Meanwhile you can try to fight your outdated laws (Blue, stoning or otherwise) while still deciding whether your form of polytheism or some crackpot's "creationism" is more academically relevant to science.
7. Why is a Jewish divorce expensive?
Al   (09.27.10)
Cos its worth it. Man get rid of her and forgetaboutit....Let her become someonelses problem. I should know I dovorced the wife and let her have the bed bugged furniture along with the farpishte mattresses.... Free at last..Thank G-d I am free at last.
8. Who cares except this lubitch
/Yosef ,   Berlin   (10.18.10)
9. No Show Separation
David Chester ,   Petach Tikva, Israel   (10.20.10)
Surely after 10 years or so the Rabinical court can declair a devorce without a formal "get" on the grounds of desertion? So what is all the fuss about?
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