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Holland calls off settlement heads' visit
Aviel Magnezi
Published: 19.09.10, 11:04
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31. This the Land of Israel ! If you like it or not!
Olim hadashim ,   tel aviv/israel   (09.19.10)
32. Pointless discussion.
Linda ,   Poltava, Ukraine   (09.19.10)
There is no "green line", or whatever had been invented by the UN in the past in that sense, until (unless) the Arab countries recognize Israel's right to exist.
33. "you lie down with dogs, you wake up with fleas"
tom ,   toronto, canada   (09.19.10)
support for the racist apartheid of the PLO is not typical of the dutch. opposition to jewish "settlements" means that they are supporting the ethnic cleansing of the disputed palestinian territories in advance of any peace agreement. and by ignoring the fact that the withdrawal of "settlements" from gaza has resulted, not in peace, but in over 10,000 rocket attacks on israeli civilians, the dutch officials are showing support for the ongoing terrorist war against israel. i guess this what happens when a normal country is overrun with islamist immigrants and their friends.
34. FALSE IMAGE
DAVID ,   JUDEA   (09.19.10)
There are many people who believe that the Dutch helped the Jews during the Shoah, this is far for from the truth, only a very small percentage helped the rest were active collobarators. Guess why Anne Frank ended up in a concentration camp. In essence the Dutch have some dirty history themselves to account for . Police actions in Indonesia in 1948 which killed thousands there, the plundering of Suriname for hundreds of years, Apartheid( the only Dutch word internationally known) in South Africa , slave trade to the Americas in the 1700's and the list goes on and on. When it comes to Jew hatred, the Dutch are very closely related to the Germans.
35. :: Tom - #33 - Terminology
Matty Groves ,   Fairport   (09.19.10)
“...the disputed palestinian territories...” Leaving aside the fact that these territories are not “disputed” it is interesting to note that you class these territories as “Palestinian” rather than “Israeli”. It would seem that you are trying to argue that this ‘Palestinian land’ is somehow in ‘dispute’ even though you clearly recognize the land as belonging to the Palestinians. As I have stated on many occasions the UN, EU, US, ICJ and even the Israeli Supreme Court all recognize that these territories are “occupied” and NOT “disputed”. The misguided notion that these “Palestinian territories” are somehow “disputed” is only held by a tiny minority of Ynuts and even then they cannot back up their erroneous belief with any internationally recognized records/documents which corroborate their claim. Sure the Ynuts can put their own spin on how they interpret such internationally recognized records/documents but they will never be able to point to a document that clearly states the word “disputed”. Heck even though the Ynuts claim that the “territories considered ‘disputed’” they cannot even cite any official Israeli Gov statement that declares that these “Palestinian territories” are “disputed”.
36. Delegitimizing
graczek ,   Maryland, USA   (09.19.10)
This so-called Israel itself exists purely on sufferance and world patience with it is fast running out. The whole country is based on stolen land and past illegal purchases, but justice will soon be done: Israel will be out of the UN and out of existence within the next several years. I just hope the transition will be peaceful, but it will not be if the Zionists continue to resist the inevitable.
37. Nederland
Rembrandt ,   The Hague   (09.19.10)
I have to apologise for this what leftist so called Dutch are doing to Jewish people. I feel ashamed. Is it forgotten what lots of Dutch did. The rate of colloboration whith the Nazis was quite high and especially this part of history shows us, what Dutch people should never do: Appease and Surrender to the enemy. Israel is not our enemy,in contrary. Our enemies are the terrorists of Hamas.Hisbollah and all there supporters . We are not an islamic state nor do we want to be one.
38. :: Matty Groves - Why do you hate Jews so much?
Amir Khoury   (09.19.10)
39. Well Done Holland
World citizen   (09.19.10)
The BDS Movement continues to grow one moral thinking person at a time.
40. Dutch
Ezra ,   Florida   (09.19.10)
Hey Dutch, do you know what you are doing? You have already destroyed your own beautiful country and culture, with your open borders and drug and prostitution policy. You have invited all the undesirables of the world to come and ruin everything decent in sight in your land, The filth that I witnessed in Amsterdam 2 visits ago was topped by the scum I saw during my LAST visit there. Fortunately' The LAST visit to the Netherland WAS 10 years ago.There are PLENTY of places in the world for me and others to visit which are more pleasant and CLEANER in every aspect than coming to you, scum
41. Settlements
Tim ,   Amman, JOR   (09.19.10)
Settlements are, and will remain the biggest obstacle. It seems kind of ironic that Israel wants peace, but they refuse to accept the only key to establish it. What good is wanting peace? We need action, not words!
42. Boycott, Divest, Sanction
Mark H ,   Myrtle Beach SC   (09.19.10)
Its the universal language everyone seems to understand. It is clearly starting to pick up steam. Once Israel throws down the hammer on current peace talks, watch it snowball around the globe. Its time to choke Israel until it releases ALL territory gained in 67.
43. so what
Sandy   (09.19.10)
Who cares about the prejudices of some pompous committee of Dutch farts? Let them come and see which-ever part of israel they wish ...any facet they see will be brilliant, advanced, ethical and successful. Let them come and see how a constructive free society works...
44. FROM THE DEPTH OF MY GRAVE
ANNE FRANK ,   BERGEN BELSEN   (09.19.10)
REMEMBER ME? MY NAME IS ANNE FRANK,YOU,MY DUTCH COUNTERPART YOU TURNED ME OVER TO THE DUTCH GESTAPO,YOU TRIED FOR YEARS TO COVER UP YOUR PRO NAZI AGENDA,YOU COLLABORATED WITH THE SS YOU UNASHAMDELY TURNED YOUR CHRISTIAN BRETHEREN TO THE MURDERS JUST BECAUSE THEY ABHORED YOUR MURDEROUS POLICIES,BUT,THE MAJORITY?YOU WERENT BETTER THAN THE SS,AND YOU CONSIDER YOURSELVES CIVILIZED NATION,ALL YOU,ALEXANDER WILLEMS,BEATRIXES AND PIETERS,YES,BECAUSE OF YOU NOT BECAUSE OF THE GREENBERGS OR COHENS YOU DENIED ME FROM GROWING UP AND GETTING MARRIED,DO YOU KNOW,I COULD HAVE BEEN A GROSSMUTTER NOW,A GRAND MOTHER,WITH MY GRANDCHILDREN FROLICKING ANY PLACE WHETHER IN AMSTERDAM OR JERUSALEM,NOW,I AM LYING SOMEWHERE IN BERGEN BELSEN WITH HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS AND I AM ONLY 15 YEARS OLD FOREVER.YOU DENIED ME FROM BREATHING THE FRESH AIR OF MY ANCIENT COUNTRY AND NOW,YOU ACT AS WHAT? THE AMBASSADOR OF WHOM OF OTHER MURDERERS?
45. Mark H. of Mertle Beach is a Jihadist
David P. ,   Capitola, CA   (09.19.10)
he should be investigated by the FBI
46. AND UNTIL WILL HAPPEN
KEEP TALKING UNTIL ,   THE MESSIAH COMES   (09.19.10)
47. They all want Israel dead.
Lee ,   Manchester UK   (09.19.10)
In 'borders' where Israelis cannot defend themselves. SHAME on the Dutch ... the very same people that gave absolutely no resistance to the invading nazis and allowed them to take their homeland from them. The Dutch are still irrelevant. They are a weak people.
48. to #2 Arthur - Houston
Alicia Cohen- ,   Santiago de Chile   (09.19.10)
I am proud to be Jewish, and please, dont mix Judaism with settlers. They dont go togheter. Judaism is related to Justice and respect. I am proud of my religion. And I am also a proud Zionist. But the settlers are destroying Israel. Just imagine, Arthur, one day when Israel makes peace with all countries in world. If by any reason, there is an accusation against Israel, let´s suppose, in the economic field, or in the environment area, will you still consider it anti-semitism?? Will you always resort to this argument?? Dont you think it is a childish answer only to scape responsibility??
49. Meeting cancellation
David Thomson ,   Scotland   (09.19.10)
Sorry Olim but you are 100% wrong and the International Court of Justice is 100% right.
50. Its just a matter of time before...
RichinBoston ,   Boston USA   (09.19.10)
car bombs, homicide bombs, shooting, stabbings and riots plague Holland. Remember, they come for the JEWS first. Idiots.
51. RESPONSE to Stone #4
Col ,   Raanana Israel   (09.19.10)
Israel is not occupying "another people" (i.e., Palestinans) in the towns represented by these mayors, the towns have been built on land which was not previously occupied they could peacefully co-exist with the nearby Palestinian villages. They probably will after a future peace agrreement anyway!
52. To 35 , what's in a name ?
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (09.19.10)
Occupied or disputed . Those territories are inhabitated by Israelis . It are those Israelis who fructified this land , who build it , and it belongs to those who do that . Regarding ther Dutch policies , it's the way to be "in" today : condemn Israel . But all those boycotters will at the end be the loosers , the Israeli know how in every field will not reach them anymore .
53. Salma and others
Harvey ,   London   (09.19.10)
The idea that it is the settlements which are the obstacle to peace is quite risible . There were no settlements and no so called occupation between 1948 to 1967 so what Salma was the excuse for not declaring statehood at any time during those intervening years .Purely a rhetorical question as we both know the objective then is the same as it is now ie the elimination of Israel as an independent homeland for the Jewish people . In 1967 Nassers call to arms in the fervent expectation of completing his Sal- a -din moment so as to destroy Israel failed spectacularly and the Palestinians lost out . The world unfortunately has a short memory. In their suicidal drive to appease Muslim demands and to deflect Muslim anger and atrocitiy from their own doorsteps they see fit to sacrifice Israel as if Israel is the panacea to all their troubles with the Muslim world . We are not to be the sacrificial lamb.There can be no return to the suicide borders of pre 67 which witnessed one PLO atrocity after another. I never hear anything from you Salma as to what concessions you will be bringing to the table simply because there are none. Holland and the rest of Europe including my country the Uk are slowly and irrevocably conceding ground to the Muslim onslaught as the Pope rightly states and as a result of multiculuralism and aggresive secular changes.Israel will not be lost in the same manner .We are the Wests canary in the mine . The Palestinians are like the gambler in the casino playing 21 [Blackjack] forever asking the dealer for another card on 18 and then demanding their stake back when they draw a 5 and strike out.
54. to NACHMAN - MAALE ADUMIM
Alicia Cohen ,   Santiago   (09.19.10)
Nachaman, you are wrong. Everything beyond the Green Line is illegal. It is not because there were no people living in Maale Adumim that is makes it legal. If I cross the border with Peru and build there, it´s invasion and illegal. Palestine is a country occupied. Israel within the Green Line is a normal country as anyother. LIsten, Nachman, nothing in the world, any argument, religious economical, political, will deprive the Palestinians of their right to land. It is only a waste of time to try to find justification. People living beyond the Green Line are invasors of Palestine unless the Palestinians themselfes accept this for exchange of land. We Jews suffered a lot for 2000 years being denied rights and discriminated. We know that in our soul. Our moral standard in the world is exactly that: we have a land now, and let´s respect our neighbour if the wants to live with us. This is Judaism. Settlers go agains this. Shalom and have a nice sukkot.
55. @Terry,Dutch people wants to become muslim !
Trumpeldor ,   eurabyeh   (09.19.10)
56. @Alicia,why do you stick to 67 borders?
Trumpeldor   (09.19.10)
1923 ,1948 are as valuable !
57. #35 There you go again ,Matty.....
Mark ,   Lodz, Poland   (09.19.10)
I've sent this link to you numerous times yet you conveniently deny such monumental works exist in your post. Here...I'll remind you. http://ctstv.com/ontario/player.php?ctsvidID=17133&show=On "Who owns Jerusalem?" by Dr Jacques Gauthier...a gentile international lawyer from Canada. Care to refute this guy's 25 year research on the issue?
58. #54 such radicalism!
(09.19.10)
generally a strong radical position from such a great distance means that you are feeling insecure about something! Perhaps you would do well in focusing upon the quagmire (mud hole) that you live in over there in Santiago de Chile! Or is holding up a mirror to your own country's history too painful for you?
59. Let's return a boycott...
Yerushalmi ,   Jerusalem   (09.19.10)
...stop selling beyond green line goods to the Dutch. Har Hotzvim hi tech zone is beyond green line. Intel factory and R&D center, 2 Teva factories, NDS, Amdocs, IDT and Sandvine, and about 100 mid to small sized hi tech companies are there.
60. To Trumpeldor
Alicia Cohen ,   Santiago   (09.19.10)
Trumpeldor, I am deeply a Zionist and believe thas the right to live within the Green Lines. Jews fought with blood to reach the lines accepted by the international community. Dont forget that we had accepted before the lines of the Peel Commission and the 1949 lines. We even relinqueshed Jerusalem. Now that we have got the pre-67 lines and Jewish Jerusalem, we have to hold them and live our neightbours alone. There is a saying in Chile that goes: who that wants everything will end up having nothing. Green Line this is the magical word for Israel. Happy Sukkot for you, chaver.
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