Hashem when you don't even believe that he exists. All that will come from you is just pontificating, of which I really have no time for. Nothing personal, but Solomon put it this way" "Only a fool says in his heart there is no G-d." You my friend are living proof of what he said thousands of years ago. Have a good day. And no, I did not read your t/b's.

I tried to discuss about Hachem with a secular ,and gave up.as i realised that if they do NOT WANT to believe,there are no arguments enough convincing.As mostly they did not have a religious education,they do not know what they are missing.I cannot understand how they can live in a world,which is ruled by hasards.Must be a real nightmare.Instead, believing in Hashem is really wonderful.

Believes in hashem , but writes yom tov . And fears to see the reality that his god does not exist . Religion is good for poor people who need it to behave correctly . And insulting people , that's his way . Poor guy

I hope that my answer to this ruebern will be published . It's NOT adressed to You , and other fine believing persons , so don't be angry at me . I said it already , i'm talking to everyone in the way he/she deserves .

A convert wrote : how many orthodox do sincerely believe ? they observe the religious laws because their parents dit it , because they were "educated" [ brainwashed , i add ] so . I said it aslready , you have to be educated religiously to "believe" , as automats do . Now , how can you believe in a G-d who allowed , did'nt intervene , could not intervene , or worse , wanted the Shoa to happen ? Is this really wonderfull ? Have you an answer ? How can you believe in a G-d , who as i heard someone saying to a parent burying a child : G-d has wanted it . Disgusting . Believing wonderfull ? Let's say it's an easy life , you have'nt to ask questions about anything , you "life" is regulated by Torah , etc . As i also wrote already , torah laws are NEEDED for many , how would they behave otherwise [ Grrrr....was your reaction ] שבת שלום

I have answers that satisfy me,and that, if i gave them to you ,you would not accept them.If we decide for a certain lifestyle,which we think is the best for us,we find the answers .It is not the answers which are the problem.It is our choice ,which should be the best for us.Shabat Shalom.

My choice is the Tora,and yours is Google.I don t give you more than 10 years,till you might want to look in google, if pedofiles are born like that.The State might, Holile Vehas ,not willing to discriminate the pedofile minority,legalize their adoption of children. Our Tora tells us firmly what is right,and what is wrong.It doesn t adapt itself to wishful thinkings.

My choice is trying to know , yours , staying in the darkness . You did'nt find anything when searching "gay gene" , possible . But when scientists say that ity seems that people are born gay , you refuse to see it , and hide behind what the tora says . That's what i already said : your belief is that of an automat who was brainwashed with belief . No questions , not questioning as sane people do aqbout what you read in the tora . Stay in your dark life . PS pedophile are attacking children , gays live with consenting adults . A big difference

And if you read my other tb's on this subject , you will see that for me they are BORN gay .

gay as you say, why can't they engage in homosexual acts at a young age? Why should there be a law against it? If they are actually born gay, how can there be a law against what a gay man does sexually to a gay child who is born gay??? Why should a mother who takes her daughter over to her neighbors house for piano lessons from a woman who is a lesbian be distraught if the two are engaged in some sort of sexual activity if the daughter is born gay. If all gay people are born that way, than aren't they doing what is natural for them? So there should be no law against what they do to your son or daughter right? There should be no outcry from society when a friend of a man who has a son, later declares that he is gay, and the friend has sexual relations with the mans 5 yrs. son who is born of a gay man, because that child must be born gay right?

Why don't you ask the same questions about heterosexual relations by a man with a five year old girl ? Sexual relations with a child , be they hetero or homosexual , are always condemned , it's called pedophily and rape . Relations between minors under a certain age , are'nt allowed either .

How can anyone be against religious gays? They simply DON'T EXIST. Someone has the audacity to perform what the Torah calls "an abomination" and yet call himself "religious"? He's not religious; he's delusional. I don't know what religious he's practicing, but it's definitely not Judaism. Judaism prohibits homosexuality. A "religious gay" is a contradiction in terms.