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Abbas: Israel can call itself Jewish-Zionist empire
Attila Somfalvi
Published: 21.09.10, 00:04
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1. Palestinians can call it ...
Palestinian ,   Yaffa   (09.21.10)
1- The State of the Haganah, Irgun & Stern 2- The state of Belfour & company built over the ruins of our grandfathers homes. 3- The state of the matter of time
2. Netanyahu is a sell-out
Steven   (09.21.10)
This man has proceeding ignorantly, blindly, impulsively, irrationally, contradictorily, etc. etc. He should not be in the Likud, let alone leading it. Wake up, Israel!
3. Bibi be aware of takfir!
(09.21.10)
4. Wow !
Jonathan   (09.21.10)
And Abbas cannot even do that ? What a good partner for peace! So promising. To have Hamas as plan B, and the PLO as plan A. The Fakestinians don't want peace, and that's VERY clear.
5. "Jewish" State?
Pamela ,   USA   (09.21.10)
Why the big fascination with being recognized as a "Jewish" State? This is a political card that would allow Israel to continue to treat non-Jews as second class citizens. Some also say the words "Jewish" (is it a race? a religion? make up your minds) give Israel a leg up on territory that EVERYONE claims. This is silly. We do not demand to be recognized as a "Chrisitian" country. Iraq did not ask to be recognized as a "Muslim" country. Why do you need to be called Jewish? SO YOU CAN EXCLUDE NON-JEWS.
6. #5 you don't get it
Israel Israeli ,   Tel Aviv   (09.21.10)
Living in the US, you don't understand what happens in other countries. All Arab countries exterminated or exiled their Jewish populations. Even "moderate" Abbas calls for an ethnically pure Arab state. In contrast, Israel has always had about 20% non Jews who have full rights. The issue of "Jewish state" is important because as Abbas, Fayyad and Tibi have said, if the Arabs recognize Israel as a Jewish state they will be forced to have peace, but if they don't they can continue the state of war. I hope I helped you understand the Middle East , but what should concern you is that you are losing your freedoms, just look at Molly Norris.
7. #5
D.M.   (09.21.10)
You obviously have little to no understanding of the situation. 1) Israeli Arabs are not treated as second class citizens. If anything, thanks to their status as a minority they get welfare benefits, corrective action at various places, can actually choose whether to serve in the military (unlike Jews, who are forced to) etc. If anything, they're PRIVILEGED. 2) "Jewish" is BOTH a nationality AND a religion, something you would have known if you had any idea what you're talking about.
8. # 5 Pamela
Frank P ,   Jerusalem   (09.21.10)
Pamela Israel has already been recognized by the UN and your country as a Jewish state.In fact Israel was a Jewish state 3500 years before white settlers stole your land from the indigenous Native Americans. If you do not understand the need for a Jewish state then you are not a student of history to say the least and an imbiber and regurgitator of false retoric. By your logic the Islamic nations of Pakistan, Iran and Indonesia should rewrite their constitutions to conform to your unrealistic viewpoint.
9. its semantics
dani   (09.21.10)
better to come right out and say it -- "israel will freeze settlements in return for freeze on the 'right of return'." that is it. stop playing this word game bibi. yes, so they won't recognize israel as a jewish state, but it comes across as just semantic games. lets put the issue on the table. settlements for the right of return. thats the exchange.
10. to Pamela
ClearVision ,   Irvine, USA   (09.21.10)
Just like many people in USA you do not understand that "Jewish" is not only religion, but also a nationality. I've been persecuted in Soviet Union as a Jew, though I was not religious. They (in USSR, and now in Russia) have a line in internal Passport - 'Nationality". In my passport it said - 'Jew'. And that is the understanding in most of the world. So, there are countries for French, Russians, Greeks, Arabs (quite a few), etc. - why not a tiny country for Jews?
11. "Jewish Minority State" with 8.5 M Arabs
Steve Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (09.21.10)
...in Israel, Gaza, the West Bank, and refugees.
12. Demand the Vote
Steve Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (09.21.10)
13. #5. Pamela: your intellect is overwhelming
Thomas ,   Dixieland USA   (09.21.10)
Your countrymen are dying for the creation of "Islamic Republic of Afghanistan" - don't they? How about of the "Islamic Republics of Pakistan, Iran, Afghanistan, and Mauritania."? Only of the word "Jew!" that turns you hysterical. Am I wrong? Jihad loving much?
14. And they have to sing Hatikva every morning.
Libi   (09.21.10)
if not there is no deal.
15. Aren't you a foolish one?
Gregory Disney ,   United States   (09.21.10)
The Jewish religion is has races and is a religion. Sephardi and Ashkenazi. Now for America being a Christian state it cant be " Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion." Treaty of Triopli. So how about you shut up and read till you learn something.
16. right on
alexi   (09.21.10)
And don't let olmert adn barak influence you to make any concessions. its hamas that has to make concessions and not israel. And golan is israeli, was never syrian and should not be returned just like hatay province of turkey.
17. Tell a cat to fly - she just wont !
Jaacov Baumann   (09.21.10)
And so - arch terrorist Abbas ( Abu Mazen ) and his kind will never seek coexistence with Israel. First they are criminal minded and do not fit for civilised live - second, the koran forces muslims to fight all other religions ! There is just one answer : Israel must show strength !
18. re #1
Y'allah Y'allah ,   Eurabia   (09.21.10)
" Palestinians can call it ... 1- The State of the Haganah, Irgun & Stern 2- The state of Belfour & company built over the ruins of our grandfathers homes. 3- The state of the matter of time I call it 1) strong hints of delusion 2) inability to accept reality 3) obsessive pathological disorder
19. to#5-pamela
Jennie ,   US/Israel   (09.21.10)
I am deeply offended by your animocity and deep ignorance about basic facts of the demographics of Israel and its religious traditions and followings.You singling out the State of ISrael for insisiting to be called the state of the Jewish people ? REad up some history about Jewish Holocaust in Europe since 1930's, or the Spanish inquisition in previous centuries..Where do you think Jews should be aloud to live in peace ?The ocean of arab muslim countries surrounding Israel are called and are being populaed strictly by muslims. Israel, is the size of the state of NJ with population of about 6 million, out of which, over 1 million are muslim legal citizens of Israel, who chose to live in Israel and remain observant muslims. Your missguidance could be only matched with your utter bigotry....Why don't you take a tour to the ME, start with the Arab countries, learn something and then come here to lecture us.....Shame on You !!! Why do Muslims need to be called muslims, Christians need to be called Christian ? What is it you hate so much about Jews ? It is people like you, who exclude Jews, not the other way around....What a SCUM...
20. To Bibi: Tell Abbas to Stick It
Dav Lev ,   Burbank, CAUSA   (09.21.10)
Come on Pamela, when were you in israel last? People come back from visiting Israel with perceptions that non-Jews in Israel are treated far better than minorities in other Muslim countries. The Arabs in Israel have a better lifestyle by far, than their brothers elsewhere. They have freedom of speech, academia, and the media. They get social benefits, including medical treatement. We all kinow about how women are treatedf elsewhere. Sharia law is not the law of the land. Peopel are not flogged or beheaded. Arabs are gainfully emp[oyed. Israel was establsihed as a Jewish state..next to an Arab state. The Muslims attacked and launched 8 wars. Bibis mistake..just tell Abbas to stick it. If he walks out due to the pre-condition..so be it. Forget a Pales state now and forever. (Israel has the high ground and Jerusalem..they fought ane lost lives to secure the above.) I would tell the Pales to stick it.
21. IT IS THE JEWISH STATE
Jacob ,   nyc / usa   (09.21.10)
If you want Israel and its leadership to recognize a palestinian state which it has listen to the first few knuckleheads in talk back here and you see the problem whom themselves can not recgonize israel exsistance Pamela moron number five Jewish people are a nation and always have been long before you and other antisemties exsisted and continue to strive and survive weather you like it or don't. long live AM ISRAEL CHAI ...THE FUTURE OF ISRAEL IS FOREVER GENERATION TO GENERATION ANYONE WHO COMES AGAINST WILL PERISH.
22. Palestine can be called Invadia
Yaniv ,   Israel   (09.21.10)
Philistine derives from the Hebrew Palash which means invade, given to the sea people that invaded Israel in the bible. Goliath in the bible was a Palestinian, not Yassir Arafat. Arabs have no relations with this non-Semitic sea people from Crete. The new Arab Palestinians want to create a Palestine state, then they should know the original meaning of Philistine.
23. to#1 fakestian
Marcelo ,   Berlin / DE   (09.21.10)
hahaha, it is incredible that after 62 years you still believe Israel and the jews are going to end up in the big sea...that is the reason of your mental disorder and repulsion for living. But, you know, aftre these false peace meetings, you will still be a fakestian with jordan as your home, and the jews will still have Israel as their national home. Sayonara !!
24. BIBI & ABBAS, SAY YES TO ISRATINE !
Ehud ,   Isratine   (09.21.10)
25. #5 as lonsgas there are Arab states, Islamic states,...
This is Middle East!   (09.21.10)
#5 as long as there are Arab states, Islamic states in which non-Arabs or non-Moslems specially Jews are threated like second degree citizens, there is a need for a Jewish state where the Jews from these countries can immigrate to in order to be safe from Islamic Fascism and Arab racism. Christians from these Moslem and Arab countries have been long moving to Europe and other Countries with a majority Christian population. Jews from these countries don't dare to go to Europe and countries like France and Germany that for many centuries have been under either secular Fascist rulers liker Hitler or fundementalist Christian governments who have killed millions of Jews in the name of Jesus and EU countries now have a large population of Moslems who unfortunatley just like Christians believe in a hate-based religion that is against whoever dosn't believe in Islam and are aggressively anti-Jewish. If Islamic emprialism once was successful in occupying many countries and ruling many , including Israel, it dosnt' mean they have the right to dominate the world as they believe they have.
26. PA people want a new state, but they want to move to Israel?
strange world!   (09.21.10)
If Palestinains want Israel to give them a state called Palestine, a state that never was, (even when Israel was occupied by Moslems, but they expect those so-called palestinian Moslems who live elsewhere move to a Jewish Israel! why dont' Palsetinisans want to live in the new Arab, Islamic state that they will stablish? if they go to Israel, they will be always killinig Jews but they won't be able to do so in an Arab Islamic country.
27. One more Arab Aparthaid state! that's all the world needs!!!
more than 50 of them   (09.21.10)
28. 1 - There was never a Pal state
Bruriah Sarah   (09.21.10)
When the Balfour Declaration was formed, Palestine referred to Israel. The ancient Romans renamed Israel Palestine. The Balfour Declaration calls for a Jewish homeland - not an arab one.
29. 5 Jewish State??
Bruriah Sarah   (09.21.10)
There are 23 muslim states. Do you have a problem with that? France is a christian nation. Any problem with that? Per the Balfour Declaration, Israel is the Jewish homeland. Let us not forget that Israel hosts non Jews in its state..but this is our homeland. Get over it.
30. Israel is The Jewish State
amos33 ,   Texas   (09.21.10)
Israel is a land chosen by God for His Chosen people - The Jews! God bless Israel and Jersualem and protect Benyamin Netanyahu and give him wisdom in all negotiations. Texas stands with Israel!
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