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Bill Clinton: Russian immigrants 'obstacle to peace'
Roni Sofer
Published: 22.09.10, 21:36
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91. the russian Jews understands G-ds covenant
Galut ,   Selah   (09.22.10)
Bill clinton don't ...
92. Clinton said the truth!!!
Yoav ,   Tel Aviv   (09.22.10)
We have been dominated by those Russians. Who the hell Leiberman? Let heim go back to back to Russia. We Israelies are for peace and love. after all that we judaism teaches.
93. RUSSIANS JEWS AND ALL THAT
REAL JEW GO TO IDF ,   we need more land   (09.22.10)
THE ONLY REAL JEWS ARE THE ONES WHO SERVE IN THE IDF AND VOTE FOR LIEBERMAN !!! MOST OF THEM SPEAK RUSSIAN. THEY ARE NOT LIKE THE WESTERN PUSSYS WHO HAVE A LOT OF MONEY. MONEY ISN'T ALL. LOOK AT THE HOLOCAUST PICTURES YOU IDIOTS. STOP PRAYING! START BUILDING ISRAEL WITH SECURE BORDERS! BECOME RATIONAL ABOUT NATION. IF JEWS UNITE AND WORK AND THINK ONLY FOR ISRAEL - NOBODY WILL EVER STOP US.
94. Clinton forgot.
Nick ,   Holland   (09.22.10)
What make you think,The man is become senile.
95. Billy boy cheated on Hillary! He is untrustful!
Clinton= enemy of ,   Israel   (09.22.10)
and is a cheat and a liar trying to divide Israeli citizens!
96. Clinton is almost right.
(09.22.10)
Stop this politicaly correct BS. Clinton almost got it right. The minor change is: The most pro peace section are the Askenazi sabras - Israelis who were born in Israel and whose parents/grandparents were born in eastern/western Europe or other western countries. They are the pragmatic, secular section of the population, children and grandchildren of the first Zionists who built the country. Now Israel is a much more religious, right wing , much less pragmatic and less rational country.
97. Why doesn't say what he really means to say
Lee ,   Manchester UK   (09.22.10)
that the Jews are #the problem'. His agenda is no different to hitlers. Russian Jews have had to live in the REAL WORLD - where in Russia they were periodically persectued with many a pogrom, they make aliya to Israel to live a life with respect as Jews and they get to their promised land and are EXPECTED to live under constant missile bombardments and labelled 'RACISTS' for wanting a peaceful life free of muslim attakcs on them. Have you any idea what REAL LIFE is Mr Clinton, i think not. Keep your racist and anti-Semitic remarks to yourself.
98. Fool
BH ,   Iowa   (09.22.10)
The enemy bent on conquering Israel is the "obsticle to peace."
99. Clinton is right
David   (09.22.10)
Don't kill the messenger. Poll after poll shows that the Russian immigrants are the ones who despise the Arabs and Palestinians most for some reason. In fact I saw a recent poll where 77% of Russian immigrants favored expelling Arabs from the lands. So get angry at Clinton all you want...but he is 100% true. The Russian immigrants who only recently came to the land are the most radical of all Israelis when it comes to Palestinians and Arabs.
100. Polls support Clinton's statements
Avi ,   Israel   (09.22.10)
All the polls taken of Israelis support what Clinton has said. The Russian Olim are the most right-wing of all Israelis. Many actually take it a step further and call for the EXPULSION of Israeli Arabs and Palestinians from the lands.
101. 84#,Pini, I feel sorry for you
Judah ,   Golan Heights,ISRAEL   (09.22.10)
102. Faulty logic
Sveta ,   Chicago, US   (09.22.10)
The situation with Russians in Israel and that of minority groups in the US is totally different. Neither African Americans nor Hispanics in the US have a specific political party, and neither group is organized to act aggressively and discriminatingly against another group. Oh, and Russians are not a race.
103. It can be argued weather it was wise to say it
Shuki ,   TA   (09.22.10)
It can not be argued as to the substance. Israel has shifted drastically to the right since the massive Russian immigration of the 80's and 90's. The extreme right in Israel is full of "Russians" while you won't find any on the left. Truth of the matter is Russians learned to respect and appreciate power, they never learned democracy and see very little value in it. This is the truth freinds and Clinton just verbelized it.
104. What else to expect from an adulterer like Clinton?
Jaacov Baumann   (09.23.10)
105. what, if the poll had asked, if they also support an expulsi
eporue ,   europe   (09.23.10)
ion of any israeli who is not "russian olim" ?
106. Racist Clinton would never generalize like that about Arabs.
Yaniv ,   Israel   (09.23.10)
107. russian immigrants.
les ,   canada   (09.23.10)
THANK YOU, TO ALL OF YOU! as i can see it from here, you are the savior of the state of israel. seem to me clinton is in need of money, so he is prepairing the ground for a new book, "how have i screwed up the peace process once more".
108. Fess Up, Bill
Mark of Lewiston ,   Lewiston USA   (09.23.10)
All Americans who want, or especially ever had, anything to do with peace between Israel and anybody are scum. We are all unworthy of opinions, regardless of what you say. That you succeeded in part warrants you a special place in hell, just like Jimmy Carter.
109. Israel never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity for
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (09.23.10)
peace. The shameless nation will be history in time to come.
110. Israel & Russian immigrants
Mara ,   Queens, New York   (09.23.10)
Per Bill Clinton's statement, why is that he believes the Russian immigrant is holding back the peace process. They have made Alyiia and now are Israel citizens. They are entitled to believe as they do and it is not wrong. Israel is the only one making concessions. I don't think the peace process is going well because almost all believe, due to the media, the Jews are always wrong. I an so sick of hearing of the Palestinians plight. Why don't there brothers Arabs/Muslims help them? They don't want them either.
111. #103
mark ,   ca   (09.23.10)
Shuki,motek,the issue in not to "respect and appreciate power" but simple way to survive.When I was living in Israel(about 35 years ago) majority of Israelis was thinking like "russians" today. Sadly, times are changing for worse.
112. Mr. Clinton Did tell it as it is...
Ali ,   villanova -PA- USA   (09.23.10)
The Israeli social Infrastructure can easily SELF Destruct by Peace.. Why you say..You got the Sephardi hating the Ashkenazi...The Sabra hating the Aliyah...and so forth.. What is keeping Israelis together, is the Drummed and Continually promoted Arab hate and state of war, that Israel feeds... If the Arab hate disappears, The Israelis will OVERNIGHT go after each other...and you will have NO Israel... Can you imagine...the Sephardis, The Sabras and the Palestinians together...The Russian and the Settler Ashkenazis, will RUN out and go back to where they came from... Then and only then we will have REAL lasting Peace..
113. What was fomerly said in private ...
MICHAEL ,   USA   (09.23.10)
Shuki in 103 makes a valid observation...Clinton voiced publically the widely held perception that it is mainly the generations that fought in 48, 56, 67, and 72 that articulate most specifically the desire to compromise with the Palestinians IF the result is a lasting peace...
114. Shame on those who support Clinton's racism
Menachem ,   Israel   (09.23.10)
The vast majority of "Russian" Israelis are in favour of both democracy and genuine peace. However genuine peace doesn't mean "peace" at all costs which Israel's far-left and their international allies try to force down our throats. The families of most Jews in Israel came from non-democratic countries like Russia, Poland, Morocco, Iraq, Iran and Roumania. Despite this, Israel is one of the most vibrant democracies in the world. It is the far-left in Israel who is anti-democratic by forcing their opinions on the vast majority of Israelis.
115. Clinton's remarks are anti-semetist
len ,   Australia   (09.23.10)
I am Australian and not Jewish and cannot help but say that Clinton's comments sound very anti-semetic and racist. To class immigrant Jews from Russia and Morocco as outdated is just outrages. He is only interested in getting his wife's agenda to succeed has clouded his judgment.
116. Clinton
Marilyn ,   USA   (09.23.10)
I think sometimes that the presidents and ex-presidents are like aliens cause they are so out of touch with how Americans think.
117. 111-marc - i suspect your memory is failing you.
Shuki   (09.23.10)
i lived in Israel then too and there is no denying Israel has shifted quite significantly to right since. It is no coincidence this shift has occurred during the last 20 years after the massive Russian immigration of the 90's. This is not to say the Russian immigration is bad, they just have very militant mentality and see no value in compromise.
118. @ 109 IS A FAKE ..NOT SARAH B TAKE NOTE
A POSTER   (09.23.10)
119. @ 79 Yes Bill Clinton is on the Arab Payroll !!!!!!!and >
Stephen ,   Albany/USA   (09.23.10)
And have been for a long time.Their coffers are bulging.Not only them but also that carter anti-semite the worst president the USA has had the misfortune to have as president . inept and why the US,Israel and most Western countries are now suffering with his LEGACY dealing with Iran at the time. If Bill Clinton were less naive when he tried to deal with the THIEVE AND DEGERATE Ratifart, he most probably had no idea how the Arab mind works or their charachter. With all his work that came to naught a waste of time and effort. As far as our Russian immigrants I would like to remind ex Pres,how come he has suddenly decided in approaching this particular subject and not before? Why now? I surmize the reason to be.to reinforce his wife's work which speaks volumes. Israel and its public are astute and not fools. The Russian immigrants are an asset ,NOT A HIDRANCE. Let ex pres' remember that and desist in making unwarranted comments on this subject. On the monies accrued by the Clintons is no secret nor are they the only ones who receive the largess.Carter the anti-semitic does well too as do many others have done after the occupation of Iraq. All including " STORMING NORMAN" Others have benefitted too. A reminder to many here who may be unaware. Money cannot buy you a GOOD CHARACHTER..OR REPUTATION .
120. Mr. Clinton and Israel wanting peace
Chana ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (09.24.10)
Judging by his remarks about Israel, Mr. Clinton reveals that he is hardly the expert that he considers himself to be. Were he to examine the history of the M.E. over the past 90 years he would see that even before 1948, Jews in Palestine were terrorized by the same people who are doing it today. Indeed, prior to that date, the Jewish inhabitants of the land were called 'Palestinians' while the Arabs here preferred to identify themselves as members of the larger Arab nation. Mr. Clinton should remember that during his administration the terrorist, Arafat, the leader most invited to the White House was also the one who refused the most generous (and most dangerous) offer for peace. It is time for Mr. Clinton and other American administrations to acknowledge that the real reason for the M.E. conflict is the unending goal of the Muslims to destroy the only democracy in the region, Israel, and proceed with their goal of eliminating other free nations using the same terrorist tactics to achieve a worldwide caliphate with sharia law. Unfortunately, Mr. Clinton does not get the whole picture but chooses to generalize about Israelis.
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