Your last conclusion sums up so well what you write, it fits exactly what almost every israelis thinks about people like you : Out, Dybbuk !

It is called Jordan. The British did it, and Israel excepted. Instead of convincing us to go back to " Auschwitz borders" - lets use your great talents in hasbara as a Jew for once, and to get the world to accept it!

I would be more inclined to support the settlements if I had ever heard a convincing explanation of what is going to happen to the millions of Palestinians in Judea & Samaria (or the West Bank) in a way that retains a convincing Jewish majority in Israel. And meanwhile, we are losing Galilee and the Negev.

Misgav should go read Tuchman again. It's always easy to pretend that we are smart enough to put words into dead people's mouths, and Misgav plays this game too. Well, I know that Misgav is wrong. I'm very sure that Tuchman would have documented "Palestine" as the most blatant example of modern folly. She would have researched the history (her expertise) and discovered that there never was a country called "Palestine", and that the Arab residents of Israel are just that - Arab residents who belonged to the Syrians or Ottomans or Byzantines. She would have documented the folly of the UN admitting a non-existent body as an observer. She would have documented how the "Palestinians" put themselves on the map by hijacking airliners, murdering Olympic athletes, and slaughtering schoolchildren. She would have documented the march of the folly of human rights organizations, who ignored the atrocities carried by Palestinians, who convinced the world that they had the right to commit war crimes as their "legitimate right to resist the occupation". Tuchman would have describe the folly of world leaders tripping over themselves to dine with the arch-terrorist Yasser Arafat, who took their billions with no accounting and laughed all the way to the bank. She would have finished off her documentation of the Palestine folly by noting that innocent people all over the world are suffering terribly, but the Palestinians have managed to continue to hold center stage, and still con the world out of billions in taxpayers' hard-earned money every year.

There is nothing foolish about faith in God. What is the greatest book in print? Why, the Bible of course. The Bible, our Bible says has much to say about Judea and Samaria; our God-given land. It has much to say about the land of Israel, our covenant. It has much to say about "settling" our land and building it up. It also has much to say about folly. The fool says in his heart: "There is no God." (Psalm 14)

hamas/fatas/pallywood/arabs have not sensitivity to the suffering of HIS refugees! ISRAEL to build for HIS refugees at HIS land, the LAND of historical & paid & won military! ISRAEL, be proud !

Mr Misgav should look in the mirror. He evidently hasn't taken to heart that quote from Albert Einstein, you know, the one that says insanity is doing the same thing over & over again & expecting a different result. Well, that's the history of the Left in Israel. This is exactly the best description of the ''Peace Camp'' in Israel. Literally EVERYTHING they have advocated has been a total failure. I won't bother to list all of their ''accomplishments'' - we all know them, know them all too well. We know how many died or were injured as a result. And yet, Mr Misgav unloads upon us the same crap that has failed for 100 years. Worse, he attempts to demonize, to promote divisiveness, among us. Oh gee, the evil settlers, everything is their fault. Yeah, right. Just what we need when we have threats on every side, more divisiveness. Well, Mr Misgav, most Israelis don't feel that way. There are no ''settlers'' just citizens, fellow Jews. From another perspective, we are ALL settlers, even the most liberal, left-wing intellectual full of phony self-righteousness sitting in a trendy Tel Aviv cafe spouting nonsense while reading Haaretz. Why not stop the BS & face reality.

The great historian Barbara Tuchman was a proud Zionist & supporter of Israel. You might like to read her excellent book, ''Bible & Sword'' -

If you really wanted to make the appropriate analogy, wouldn't you say that it applies perfectly to the Palestinians? How many times have they rejected compromise? How many times have they refused peace? I'm not going to bother to list what almost everyone knows. But why is it that you only talk about Israel & absolve the Palestinians from any responsibility for the conflict? Why do you gloss over the fact that a million plus Arabs live in Israel but the presence of a few Jews in ''Palestine'' is an obstacle to peace? How is it that you fail to mention the aggression against us BEFORE 1967? What's your explanation since there were no settlers & no occupation? You don't even mention that this is DISPUTED territory, that we have rights, not just the Arabs. You know what, Mr Misgav, you come across as being very, very dishonest.

One man's 'occupation', is the other man's 'freedom of occupation. Israel just took back what was always and originally theirs and was 'stolen and occupied by others. It's about time Israel starts bringing this message home to the world. LOUD and CLEAR. This whole 'Palestinian entreprise' started to build on is own, without any real or adequate fundamentals.

The definition of insanity is doing the same failed policy over and over again and expecting a different result. Israel has been told over and over again to stop construction and limit its presence in Judea and Samaria and Gaza and there will be peace. The fact remains that it has not happened. An Arab Palestinian state can cut Israel up if Israel does not have the protective boarders that it needs. If you (the writer) are saying out Dybbuk, perhaps it is an admission of your (the writer's) own insanity.

According to Misgav, it was Israel's interest to destroy the SLA, retreat from Lebanon and allow Hezbolla to take over. According to Misgav, it was Israel's interest to ethnically cleanse Gush Katif of Jews so that Hamas would be able to build up its power and rocket Israeli civilians. According to Misgav, it is Israel's interest to ethnically cleanse Judea and Samaria to establish a failed aggressive overpopulated Arab state that controls all of Israeli water sources and has rocket line of sight to every Israeli population center.

It might be unwise for I srael at the present time to continue building in the West Bank, but are settlements the real problem? The Palestinians could have had all the West Bank when it was offered to them immediately after the Six Day War and again at Tabba in 2001. There is folly on both sides.

Then I'll shut up. How did this problem with building in the settlements arise as such a major issue? It wasn't an issue in the past. The phony peace negotiations continued without any building freeze. No one had ever made an issue of building in Jerusalem, Ariel, etc. etc. So, how did this issue suddenly become so important? Well, we all know exactly what happened. It was a major blunder by the Obama team of amateur-hour anti-Israel strategists. They used it to beat us over the head, to bully us, to force new concessions out of us. And, of course, Abbas & his Fatah extremists were thrilled to have another excuse, a pretext for being even more unreasonable than usual. Better yet, they could count on all the useful idiots to blame Israel. You do know that term, ''useful idiots'' ? So, the Palestinians waited a full 9 months before being dragged against their will into the BS peace talks, just in time for the freeze to expire. And voila, another excuse to stop negotiations. But, you know all that, don't you? It's just in your upside-down, backwards, inside-out logic, anything the Palestinians say automatically becomes your next talking point. You should register as an agent of an enemy foreign entity.

The article sums things up simply. Some of the talk back arguments I see here reflect the intransigence of Israeli society and this fixation that everyone is against Israel and the Jews. This is a trauma carried over from Jewish history. However, we are now facing an even worse enemy; the Jews themselves.

Straight from the heart and from a mind that THINKS, unlike the superficiality or maybe madness of the left thought.

The construction freeze entered into by the Israeli government was one of the biggest blunders in Israeli history. Why create an issue when none existed. U.S pressure notwithstanding. There still is US pressure!

surrendering to the enemy is winning the war!

years ago, a former idfer and peacenik impressed me with an ecnonomic and independence argument that went like this-you cannot kill an idea, give back the land, pump some money into it, the PLo will develop and gov ern and violence will reduce. So you know what happened. While some PLO want a nice restaurant and business, most want the destruction of israel. After, its irrelevant how they live-under egypt, jordan, syria-who cares. The main thing is kill the jews. Arabs had been killing jews before 67, before any judea and samara housing developments. On the contrary, settlements will bring some arrangement closer. Barak offered an orgy of concessions at camp david and got death in return while barak was paralysed with fear. Olmert on the other hand brags that while jews were being killed, he sypathizes with PLO suffering. The ultimate coward, he offered more concessions than barak and would have frozen settlements and done other favors in return for nothing-and more israelis would have died. Misgav, Olmert, beilin,ben ami, much of haaretz writers, ramon and the haredi are why jews have such a weak reputation- they are a bunch of weaklings. And the haredi all of them have to get into the idf-no exemptions period.

Folly is engaging in the same behavior time after time and expecting a different result. Israel has given in to the Palestinians time and time again -- always with the same predictable result: Palestinian intransigence. It is time for Israel to step up construction in Judea and Samaria -- including new ones, not merely in existing ones -- and tell the Palestinians that we can revisit the issue ONLY after: 1. The PA recognizes the right of the State of Israel to exist in its ancient homeland; 2. The assorted Palestinian organizations (there are around thirty, and each one purports to be the sole true representative of the Palestinian people) repudiate their charters calling for the destruction of the State of Israel and the extermination and/or expulsion of the Jews. Is it not time that the vanquished Palestinians make some concessions? Hasn't Israel conceded enough? The best possible outcome -- since we know that Abbas will NEVER recognize the State of Israel and the Palestinians will NEVER repudiate their vile charters -- will be that in issuing such a quid pro quo, the Palestinians will be seen on the international stage for what they really are: violent, terrorism-espousing rejectionists who do not wish to co-exist peacefully with Israel.

The proof is in the absurd massada complex of the talkbacks

It happened once. Don't we owe it to our children to make sure it never happens again? Don't you think that the Palestinians would LOVE to force another Metzada upon the Jewish people? That would be almost as much fun as slaughtering us all. Clearly you did not serve in the IDF. If you had, you would know better than to pen what you wrote.

the faith on god is what to do wherever you have been .. but not to be a slave to a land and do crimes in the name of god

when god sent prophets there were talkbackers most of them were against moses jesus mohammad and so on it is the same system -power is talking --- it was and it will b not about right and wrong

if you are here in my village if you are my sister or my noughbor if you are an olive tree or a grap tree and was pulled from its root ..i think you will posted another thing .. but you are there in usa . i think i will never visited it .and you write about settlers .. sure i do not like them or their acting sure i can not kill one person or steal its product but i hope oneday this misearable condition will be changed

GENESIS/1st BOOK OF MOSES CHAPER 49 verses - 8"Judah, thou art he whom thy brethren shall praise; thy hand shall be on the neck of thine enemies; thy father's children shall bow down before thee. 9Judah is a lion's whelp; from the prey, my son, thou art gone up. He stooped down, he couched as a lion, and as an old lion; who shall rouse him up? http://ariel.org/ Ariel is a given name from Biblical Hebrew אריאל Arial that literally means "lion of God". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ariel_%28city%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ariel_%28angel%29 Hebrew Ari (Numbers 24:9) or Aryeh (2 Samuel 17:10) is the Hebrew for "lion", cognate to Akkadian aria, Aramaic arya. The word is in use as a male first name. Ari was also used as an honorific for an important man.[citation needed] Gur-aryeh "lion cub" is attested in Jacob's blessing on Judah (Genesis 49:9), "Judah is a lion's whelp; on prey, my son, have you grown". The Hebrew name Ari-el translates to "lion of God". 'Ari' is also a common shortened version of the names Ariel, Aryeh, Arielle and Ariella. (See Animal names as first names in Hebrew.) Arn.

unlike that potz Uri Misgav, hope your not getting paid for your adolecent dribble you spew here! not dribble actualy but sheer madness, insanity!