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Chinese envoy: We admire Israel
Ofer Petersburg
Published: 28.09.10, 19:05
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1. Europeans.....
tiki ,   belgium   (09.28.10)
Should take a page from his book. What a compliment for Israel from this ambassador of superpower CHINA. Who needs those biased, bankrupt and useless Europeans, when you have US, China and India among your friends.
2. CONFUCIUS SAYS
CONFUCIUS ,   SAFED ISRAEL   (09.28.10)
Wise man no put all his eggs in one basket ,especially basket of Obama and Hillary .Wise man make nice to China with billions of customers.
3. THE CHINESE ARE WONDERFUL
LAWRENCE RAP ARTISTE ,   SAFED ISRAEL   (09.28.10)
Such a great nation .Why are Bibi and Barak wasting time and energy with Obama and Clinton when the chinese have so much to offer? . Israels' leaders are simply insane.
4. #3 Actually Israel has great relations with China
Omri ,   Israel   (09.28.10)
It's rare that USA closes an Israeli deal with China but it happens. But China knows whats really going on and the Chinies-Israeli relations are high, that's why China is against Iran even when it makes good sense for them to stick together against USA. I agree europe is falling apart from lack of scientific education, low birth rates and general lifestyle of too many people thinking only about themselves and how to make themselves happy then about serving their country. In no doubt Asia is growing fast and will out pass the West in no time and I'm also talking about India and Japan. So Israel looks bad on the public European opinion? Who cares aside from certain countries in Europe most of them don't have any real influence in the Middle east and they are soon to be overran by Muslim immigrants.
5. Israel should not put all its eggs in Obama's basket
Zionoid Entity ,   Occupied Toronto, Ka   (09.28.10)
It's time for Israel to "divest" from American aid and European trade as much as possible. If we sell to China and India we will be free of intrusions in foreign policy. Obviously, I am not suggesting cutting off allies but rather to diversify.
6. No Chinese courses?
blash ,   Jerusalem   (09.28.10)
Unfortunately I can't take Chinese at Hebrew University :( but I wonder how many Chinese universities offer Hebrew? Still.... China is more of a friend to Israel than the US is right now, and I say that as an American. China has always been an economic partner while the US was supposed to be a political partner. The US has been shunning Israel and China has been reaping the rewards... thank Obama for that.
7. Fidel Castro now China everybody seems to love Israel
zionist forever   (09.28.10)
Everybody who we once called allies they have turned on us and now support our enemies and are proud of it. The US has been generally against Israel forging any close diplomatic alliances with China now we have an excuse as China are the ones coming to us with open arms. I am sure this gesture coming from China annoys the hell out of Obama who wants Israel alienated from the world especially countries he has no influence over which makes this gesture all the better.
8. TO THE CHINESE ENVOY
LAWRENCE RAP ARTISTE ,   SAFED ISRAEL   (09.28.10)
Sir ,with respect there is little to admire about Israel these days .Israels' leaders act like slaves ,puppets to foreign powers who do not have Israels' best interest at heart and like rabbits caught in the headlights of a car . Israelis are also the only nation in the entire world to give away its precious land to its hateful enemies without being defeated ,in fact Israel were the victors .Such a nation deserves little admiration .
9. #7 CONFUCIUS SAYS : ONE DOOR
CONFUCIUS ,   SAFED ISRAEL   (09.28.10)
Closes ,and another door opens .Pity Netanyahu too stupid to realize that .
10. DON'T HOCK ME A CHINA
LAWRENCE RAP ARTISTE ,   SAFED ISRAEL   (09.28.10)
11. Is China a member of UN Security Council?
leo ,   usa   (09.29.10)
12. China always votes with the Arabs last week also fake fake
get lost fakey ,   China fake stuff   (09.29.10)
13. Israeli Companies Moving 2 China-Did ANYONE read THAT part??
Sophia Presley ,   Memphis   (09.29.10)
All you talkback idiots all hepped up on China this, China that - don't you realize that what China has done to America they will do to Israel as well? --DESTROY Israeli manufacturing and JOBS in Israel!!! The USA is BARELY still standing after what China has done to them, now they've got their CLUTCHES on Israel -- they will IMPLODE Israel financially -- from WITHIN! Not only that but you MORONS don't read the Chinese press - they ONLY LAMBAST ISRAEL LEFT & RIGHT, ALL THE TIME, 24/7, 365 days a year!!! -- & THEY ONLY SEE THE ARAB SIDE OF THE CONFLICT, THEY ONLY DEFEND THE PALESTINIAN SIDE - NEVER, EVER THE ISRAELI SIDE!!! They are NOT your friends...Your views on China on here are revolting & NAUSEATING!!!
14. sharp mind
jasfy ,   montreal   (09.29.10)
this diplomat like most high up chinese officials knows his ''dossiers'' inside-out and doesn't shy away from answering straight to the point. we're lucky to be a non threat to china with our small country and smart yiddishe kop, some won't be so lucky... i admire as much as fear the new chinese rise, earth will never be the same.
15. While adoring the admiration of the Chinese ambasador
Bunnie Meyer ,   Los Angeles, CA USA   (09.29.10)
please watch the balance of trade or you will wind up like America with China owning more of the country than you do.
16. Nice fantasizing, kids, but.......
Cameron ,   USA   (09.29.10)
this is the real world, and there is no escape from it. No one but Uncle Sam can deliver the diplomatic, intelligence, and military resources that Israel needs, not to mention the finances, and an normous, proven, reliable market for Israeli goods & services. You honestly believe the Chinese are prepared to toss aside the raw resources & vast, potential markets the Islamic world represents by allying themselves with your little state??? Time for a mighty Reality Check. You'll just have to be patient, and sweat the remaining Obama years. Reconcile yourselves to the unavoidable in this sense.
17. Slave labor, religous persecution, whats not to like?
Diamond ,   USA   (09.29.10)
I understand Israel's need for counter balance, and having a window in Asia. But China arms Israel's potential exterminators to the teeth, consistently sides with the Arabs in international forums, and keeps its population under its authoritarian, Communist thumb. Israel needs to keep a moral perspective in choosing its bed partners.
18. China and Israel share something sad but unique
Septimus   (09.29.10)
Both the Chinese and the Jews were brutalized by cruel imperial powers in World War 2. The Japanese murdered many Chinese people and even performed gruesome "medical" experiments on them. To some extent, their suffering was not so different from what Jews endured at the hands of the Nazis. As innocent victims of horrific crimes inflicted by the bad guys of WW2, the Jews and the Chinese share a sad but special bond. It almost makes us "blood brothers", in a way. I realize that China has to look out for its own interests. It benefits from the relationship it has with Iran. But it would still benefit were the regime in Iran to fall. I hope China realizes it would strengthen its friendship with Iranians, as well as with Israelis and Jews, if it were to help in the efforts to bring down the cruel, fanatical regime in Iran. The Chinese ambassador said: "We in China admire you and your Jewish mind, which has brought many Nobel prizes." I hope the ambassador believes it's important to help protect and preserve that mind, or at least not assist efforts to harm it. The Chinese are brilliant and industrious too. May the Jews and the Chinese continue to nourish each other's minds.
19. OF COURSE THE CHINA - IRAN POLICY IS VERY NICE !!!!
Benjamin ,   singapore   (09.29.10)
THE BUYING AND SUPPLYING PART ! DISGUSTING !
20. Re #2: China doesn't care about Israel.
Ninjateck ,   LA, CA   (09.29.10)
China has no incentive to view Israel's interests as important unless it offers something valuable. The only thing Israel has in that respect is advanced technology, and the only kind China is interested in is advanced US made weapons systems. So unless Israel wants to sell out the US to partner up with China, I'm not sure why there's so much yearning in Israel for this these days. Blatantly racist caricatures of Chinese culture will probably not help Israel's case, and this board is filled with examples of the bigotry that seems to endure. You'll find a reason to hate the Chinese after you pick their side and they'll treat you worse than the US does.
21. You lot are more naive than I thought...!
John ,   Jerusalem   (09.29.10)
Did you know that all new US diplomats arriving in Tel Aviv or Jerusalem are told that Israeli officials will lie to their face and not think anything about it. It's their standard modus operandi. I've lived in China for 4 years and let me assure you that, apart from the Egyptians, the only other diplomatic service that can hold a light to Israel in terms of bare-faced cheek and duplicity is the Chinese one. A Chinese diplomat will say wonderful things to your face. But the Chinese will always act of pure self interest. Read carefully. The Ambassador starts off by saying that Israel is the size of a small town in China. So the level of self interest is necessarily pretty low. You also have few meaningful natural resources (the new gas find ain't big enough seriously to interest an energy hungry China). And China has zero sentimental/historical/religious ties to Israel. Look at what they do not what they say: - vote against you consistently in the security council. - voted against you in Geneva on Goldstone - conduct industrial espionage against you - vote against serious sanctions on Iran (because they have more commercial interests there) - continue to conduct an anti-Israeli/pro-Palestinian publicity campaign in their local media and with their G77 colleagues - bleed you dry by attracting your manufacturing base to set up shop there (where they will merrily steal your intellectual property) while flooding your market with cheap tat. The one thing you currently offer them is advanced military technology. They'll have that off you until they have caught up (and they will in about a decade) and then you are truly on your own. They will always value Arab oil more than they admire your nobel prizes. Rely on China and you are a fool. Believe that tiny resourceless Israel can become a strategic partner with China and you are delusional. I've dealt a lot with the Israeli foreign service. They are the best in the world, in my opinion. Don't always agree with them but hugely professional and active. But when it comes to the Chinese they seem to let all good sense go out of the window. They are out played and out chutzpahed.
22. to John # 21 - You're 100% right, I know China too.......
Narah Correa ,   BRASIL   (09.29.10)
23. Damn well said, #21
Cameron ,   USA   (09.29.10)
That was just the bucket of ice-cold reality these boneheads needed to have splashed on them while they're busy falling over themselves fantasizing over the imagery of a Chinese-Israeli alliance. The Chinese are NO ONE'S FRIEND. Who would toss Israel out a window in a hot second if they perceived it to be in their self-interest? China Study their history over the centuries, and note the patterns in their behavior with other nations. The Chinese look out for themselves, and themselves alone. Trying to form some sort of strategic alliance with the Chinese would be the worst kind of fool's errand.
24. USA in decline; China expand, improves
moshe ,   tivon   (09.29.10)
reality is usually unpleasant. The USA is economically DOWN because of its behavior: TOTALLY unconnected with China , or even the rest of the world. Obama , Bush , democrats, republicans are NOT the reason for the decline, the ALL participate in the decline and work to alleviate the decline ...but the decline continues. The multitude of US industry is 10 or 20 years behind in renovating its manufacturing equipment and its design of new products. Not every industry but far too many: Steel mills, Auto manufacture, Electronic assembly,( even electronic design ! ), MagLev : 250 mph railroad innovations, Ocean-going Ship building, Replacing the industries above with non essential jacuzi baths, tennis court equipment, fast food eateries, cleaning services, service in general, is the cause of the US industrial decline. moshe
25. chinese taqiyya?
Rob ,   USA   (09.29.10)
So china loves Israel so much? That's why it votes against Israel 100% of the time at the UN? That's why it's helping, not sanctioning, iran in its quest to nuke the Jews? Tell him to stuff it.
26. Tibet was never a part of china.
sonam tsering ,   israel   (09.30.10)
Whatever the ambassador said about Tibet is not true,they were always lying to get the wast land of Tibet and Dalai lama is seeking peace not only to Tibet but for the whole world,He is not the separarist.Do not believe their words,they forcefully invaded Tibet.We do not have right to speech,right to religion and right to freedom,people in Tibet living under a big fear in their mind,Tibet will be free one day and in the end,honesty will pay.Free Tibet and Free World!!!
27. Red White and Blue
Alexander ,   NJ, USA   (09.30.10)
The Republic of China is a great country, but it has a lot on its plate. China will not get involved with ME politics to support one side over another. Europe is only now beginning to wake up to the threat that Jihad and radical Islam pose to world stability and security. The US is the strongest ally of Israel and will never end it's support for the young state. Just because the US wants to get a peace deal going so that there will be a Palestinian state doesn't mean it wants to undermine Israel. The US would not support a peace deal that doesn't ensure Israel's security and sovereignty. Things are in the hands of the Palestinians and if anyone threatens peace it's them.
28. # 17 SLAVE LABOR ?
LAWRENCE RAP ARTISTE ,   SAFED ISRAEL   (10.01.10)
You must be talking about the United States .
29. Israel and China
Ling Yao ,   China   (06.03.12)
As a Chinese citizen studying abroad, I can say that most Chinese do indeed have deep respect and admiration for the Jewish people as a whole, and many are truly horrified by the Nazi's crimes against your people. In fact, many Chinese have said themselves that they view the relationship between China and Israel to be very strong; even I myself was surprised by so many positive comments. Over 94% of Chinese said that they "like" rather than dislike Israel, and both my parents hold respect for the Israelis. However, the reality is the current Chinese nation is very focused on developing its economy, thus desiring oil from Iran, and some begin to view the West as a great rival. Do not forget either that China is a very close military ally with the largely Islamic Pakistan, who has threatened to attack Israel in the event of war with Iran. These relations are complex and many, and while I seek peace for all, we would all do well to remember that all countries essentially serve their own interests...and not everything is so one-sided.
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