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Yesha chair: US' offer is poisonous pill
Yair Altman
Published: 02.10.10, 23:35
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1. Poison Pill
bob ,   Jerusalem   (10.02.10)
I must admit that I too thought that an offer having IDF troops in the Jordan valley was a good idea, nor realizing that it, in-itself was a concession to the arabs. I bow to the superior political savey of some of our people. Kein Yerbu.
2. Bibi, turn your attention back to domestic issues and . . .
Ken Quinn ,   Amsterdam   (10.02.10)
Bibi, turn your attention back to domestic issues and give this "piece process" the shock it needs.
3. #1, bob, It's like chess...don't make a
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (10.02.10)
wrong move...
4. Unconstitutional action by Obama
sam ,   USA   (10.02.10)
Impeach Obama
5. dayan is right
alexi   (10.02.10)
lasting negotiations cannot be held at gunpoint. Obama wants a peace deal but perhaps cannot see that forcing concessions on one side does not make peace. Abbas plays games, consults the PLO comittee and arab league like a crybaby and a dependent, not an independent entity. This is because palestinian is a fiction, derrived by the arab countries to contiue the struggle against israel by different means and in reality, pretty smart means. Meanwhile , olmert's twins livni and barak run around urging more concessions to drag abbas towards peace. You cannot squeeze blood out of a stone. Fatah does not want peace. They want to reverse the 48 results, set up palestine with a dzimmi jewish presence after killing 100,000 jews and expellilng the rest to cyprus and europe. President mashaal of Palestine will throw a token to the zimmi yankels. Olmert will be appointed minister of justice for his part in screwing israel, barak will be minister of war, and beilin will be political advisor to president mashaal. And peace will reign in palestine. That is what you are looking at. And fancy formulations by ben meir and barak will not work today, or tomorrow. lieberman is correct. And for mashaal, if lieberman is elected PM, you will be gone and not the poor way that halevy tried it.
6. Palestine will be Free - get over it or Peace
Palestinian   (10.02.10)
7. Phony peace
Grant thomas ,   Brookfield, WI   (10.03.10)
The U.S. is stupid and doesn't understand Islam in the least. The land Israel is on was once in the Ottoman Empire and therefore belongs to Islam forever. They can never allow Israel to exist on land they consider belonging to them. Israel can never trade land for peace and expect anything other than Islamic duplicity. Little by little they will devour Israel if they can. The Jews need to tell them bluntly, "You will only wipe us out if there is anything left of you after we nuke you". It worked for the U.S. with the Soviets, and it will work for Israel!
8. Odd! Obama is talking as if he owns Israel.
Harry Wright ,   UK   (10.03.10)
Continue the building freeze, I'll let you retain IDF presence in the Jordan valley, give Abbas what he wants. Somebody needs to tell Obama to just shove it up....
9. Everybody got his own toys but phony peace
Jack. A   (10.03.10)
10. oybama the muslim is fixated on israel like the
debra ,   usa   (10.03.10)
true anti-semite he is. no more freezes!
11. Danny Dayan is very Sav vy!
Israeli 2   (10.03.10)
12. incapable of accepting Israel
galilean ,   Israel   (10.03.10)
And Arab religious leaders have stated, that the Arab male ego cannot deal with the fact that a small handful of Jews beat the Arab armies (more than once). Their male pride will not let them accept the existence of Israel. Anyone who is a bit familiar with the mentality of Eastern societies knows this to be very true indeed.
13. Watch out Netanyahu....
Ram ,   London   (10.03.10)
Obama is trying to kill rwo birds with one stone here. By extending the freeze he certainly will secure more votes from the naive american Jews. Furthermore, getting Netanyahu to agree to it will seriously damage Israel's position by emboldening the PA to make further demands. This blackmail of walking away from the talks, if they don't get what they ask for, will give the PA the chance to, little by little, chip away concessions without giving anything in return. Netanyahu and the Israeli nation must stand firm now! They have to realise, if the PA was serious about peace none of these demands are necessary as everyrhing can be brought up in the negotiations. Borders are yet to be agreed! Netanyahu must now chose between Obama and the future of the State of Israel. The choice should be a no brainer.
14. no 6
(10.03.10)
Palestine will not be free UNTIL you learn how to behave.NO INCITEMENTS IN MOSQUES OR SCHOOL OR MADRASA, NO HATRED, ETC,and start to teach your children to be normal and not FANATIK
15. Thank You Danny
Beaulah ,   Chennai, India   (10.03.10)
Great Danny, Keep up your good work in revealing the cunningness of the enemies of Israel. YAHWEH bless you for your words for defending Israel !!!
16. Gaza for Palestinians
Beaulah ,   Chennai, India   (10.03.10)
Taking a look at scriptures it seems that the Palestinians lived in Gaza alone and not in Jordan Valley. Why don't the arabs claim right of return to their arabian mother lands?
17. The Dennis Ross Draft Letter
Mark of Lewiston ,   Lewiston USA   (10.03.10)
I haven't yet seen any evidence that Obama even knew about the draft letter that Ross gave his writing partner. The White House denied any offer was made. And apparently, Netanyahu isn't interested anyway. The draft letter proposed things that are contrary to the interests of the USA. Palestine without sovereignty is not a two state solution. It would not bring peace. And a guarantee that the US would veto everything at the UN would be carte blanche for abuse. It would damage the US beyond recognition. Personally, I think Obama should walk away from the effort and let you all have the one-state you seem to elect governments to create. I have seen no evidence that an Israeli government is interested in a negotiated settlement of the conflict in the past 10 years. All I have seen is schemes to dispossess Palestinians and control their lives in perpetuity. Enjoy your bi-national state.
18. the uninformed
hebrew prophet ,   israel   (10.03.10)
For those of you who don,t understand what,s currently going on,read this ;as defence minister Ehud Barak,has veto over new initiatives .He could nix them while the Palestinians look the other way regarding settlementsalready in the pipeline .At the same time ,Barak,s reputation as a go-it-alone dove could give Netanyahu cover with settlers .The prime minister could tell hawks that Barak is slightly out of control.Meanwhile each side was trying to extract as much as it could or concede as little as possible before talks continued .Brinkmansh ip is a hallmark of Arab-Israeli negotiation etc. Written by Ron Kampeas in a Jewish mewspaper overseas ,rather interesting but Bibi and Israel negotiate from a position of strength ,that,s what counts the most?
19. no.6
hebrew prophet ,   israel   (10.03.10)
Hopefully free of despotism ,cronyism and mass corruption ?
20. no.17
hebrew prophet ,   israel   (10.03.10)
In other words Mark ,Obama thinks he,ll stil be in govt, controlling people,s lives,come November midterm elections and then 2012,a fatal error which will cost your Palestinian brrethren big time ,you have seen no no evidence that an Israeli govt. is interested in a negotiated settlement of the past conflictin the past 10 years, since when is Mark of Lewiston a Palestinian negotiator and an expert on all things Israeli,you,re just another Palestinian clown looking to join the Palestinian circus ,go away?
21. Wait till Nov. The G.O.P. will fix the jihadiist's
jason white ,   afula,israel   (10.03.10)
wagon. There will be new rules and a new direcetion. This is the end of b.o. and hitlery clinton. The same with mitchell, ross, jones and dayton. These enemies of Israel and the Jews will be castrated by Americans who will not negotiate with terrorists nor reward them. The same goes for turkey, irans and syria.
22. 20 Thanks Profit - I Neded a Laugh
Mark of Lewiston ,   Lewiston USA   (10.03.10)
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