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Lieberman: Obama trying to force agreement on Israel
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Published: 04.10.10, 00:55
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1. Wise Counsel
Adam Neira ,   Melbourne, Australia   (10.04.10)
There is a trust matrix that encompasses all of Creation. A divine hierarchy must be established. People should not pay lip service to such a concept. They might also like to reacquaint themselves with Isaiah 2:4. An elite “A Team” of trust builders needs to be created to assist the prophesied redeemer in his job. World Peace by 2050 is worth about $120 Trillion Global GDP at a 3% annual growth rate.
2. '67 borders a gift to Israel
Steve Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (10.04.10)
...it means permanent partition of the land and people, and a Jewish majority in Israel.
3. He just doesn't make sense.
Sam   (10.04.10)
Whats to stop the US and Quartet and the Arab leafue to come up with that forced solution even if there is no freez?
4. Time to face reality
Naor ,   USA   (10.04.10)
The State of Israel needs to act already. A solution must be found to this problem, or eventually the International Community will try to force a solution on Israel. It is high time the Jewish State initiated the Lieberman Plan; it is the only realistic solution.
5. MR LIBERMAN, PRESIDENT OBAMA IS AN IMPARTIAL LEADER.
SINGER ,   SINGAPORE   (10.04.10)
PALESTINE WILL BE CREATED DURING HIS PRESIDENCY WHETHER U LIKE IT OR NOT !
6. Don't give up Mr. Lieberman.
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7. the nerve!!!!
Robert ,   farmington,usa   (10.04.10)
Obama cant even fix americas problems , and he wants to tell israel what to do , there is lot of things I want but I can't have , Obama has to to learn that he cant have what he wants all the time either , what a joke for a president......: (
8. Lieberman is right
Brod ,   USA   (10.04.10)
For Obama and the dark forces to try to force a peace crap based on 1967is NOT peace. It is a recipe for a major war. Lieberman is right in exposing the treachery of the dark forces against Israel. He is right in telling the world the truth. Israel must never agree to a 1967 crap engineered and manipulated by the Islamist-Jihadists and imbibed the Hussien AntiSemite administration. Israel should get Judeo-Christian America and Congress to oppose this plot. It is time to get key members of Opposition Party such as Sarah Palin and Mitt Romney and key leaders of Congress to oppose this Obama plot. Israel should reject this 1967 plot on the spot without any qualms. Defending the Land of Israel as the Jewish State in the world since ancient time is more important than all the shouts, intimidations, cries and craps of the AntiSemite and Islamist-Jihadist world-dark forces. If the the so-called 'two-state' concept means having a 1967 imposed on Israel, Israel should reject this concept outright. Israel must defend its liberated historic homeland -Land of Israel in the halls of the UN, Congress, the world and even in war if needs be. GOD did not give and restore the Land of Israel to the Jewish people for them to give it away to the Pagans. With GOD on its side, Israel will prevail against the dark forces. Israel must be united, resolute and strong against the unrelenting onslaughts of the dark forces.
9. OK Likud
Rachel ,   US   (10.04.10)
What's it going to be? Are you going to stand up for Israel or not? Or are your seats and Volvos more important?
10. The PA doesn't agree to two states for two peoples!
michael redbourn ,   Arad Israel   (10.04.10)
Muslims want one state for the Palestinians which would have no Jews in it and another state in which Jews would be the minority after accepting millions of Muslims into it.
11. Lieberman is talking truth, and only truth
an Israeli   (10.04.10)
I didn't vote for him, but he is 100% correct on his analysis and I do respect him and his views. All the ones trying to make him a joke or even worth, are severely mistaken (or just anti-Israeli, including some very few Israelis that control the media).
12. A different 60-day freeze proposal
Roscio ,   Rome, Italy   (10.04.10)
This time - for once! - a freeze from the Arab side. How about a 60-day freeze on the daily terrorist attacks from the West Bank? How about 60 days' freeze on the obscene brainwashing of your children in the anti-Jewish filth that you endlessly broadcast on the official PA tv. A 60-day freeze on sermons inciting hatred and violence in all your mosques, madrassahs and universities? Arafat and Fatah officially swore to end this forever when they signed the Oslo Accords and have not kept their word for even one day since 1993. How about a freeze for Abbas, to refrain from naming schools, streets and public squares after terrorists whose only achievement was the slaughter of unarmed Jews? or 60 days' freeze on saying "peace, peace" in English while crying "Jihad! Jihad!" in Arabic? How about THIS kind of freeze, President Obama?
13. H O R R O R S
Mark of Lewiston ,   Lewiston USA   (10.04.10)
Two states for two peoples along the lines of the 67green line with 3% - 4% land exchange to allow Israel to keep some parts of the West bank that were conquered in 1967. That truly is frightening especially if it includes recognition of Israel by all those Arabs. It really is doubtful that Obama or anybody else thinks that peace can be forced on Israel and Palestine. But to fear peace with no real, productive and sincere and even moderately fair counter-proposal to lay on the table, with substantive details is truly paranoid. Where is the actual detailed Lieberman peace plan? What are the borders he proposes? Does it really include dispossessing Israelis of their citizenship and transporting them, without their property to somewhere? Lieberman wants to talk about getting rid of people. Netanyahu wants to talk about controlling and denying sovereignty. Neither has a plan for two STATES. Both want Israel and something-not-a-state-with no sovereignty-or independence. But neither is honest enough to put a plan before the public with enough details to have it debated. And neither wants to negotiate with the Palestinians in good faith. They both want to dictate their plan, whatever it is, and then have peace magically appear.
14. Lieberman for PrimeMinister
Shalom Hartman   (10.04.10)
He is the only one in the govt with any scruples.
15. Like it or not, Liberman is the only one staying consistant
Eric ,   Tel Aviv & New York   (10.04.10)
No matter what you think of his message, you have to respect a man that can stick to his principles and not waffle the way Bibi has been.
16. R. Yosef? This is why I don't trust rabbis!
Steve   (10.04.10)
Quoting YNet: "Lieberman told the Yisrael Beiteinu members that President Shimon Peres promised Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu he would get Shas spiritual leader Rabbi Ovadia Yosef's approval for a two-month moratorium...." Years back, Rabbi Yosef held that Israel should give our God-given land to our enemies under the rubric of "pikuakh nefesh," saving lives. Now this? Tell us this is not true. Tell us this great rabbi is not willing to sell out. For what?
17. Liberman, get out...
Rmi of Nazareth ,   Israel   (10.04.10)
Peace deal with guarantees to Israel security is what the israeli people want. Anyone against peace should leave,,
18. BHO wants deal
moron ,   galut   (10.04.10)
he's raising money on j street for election--give him rose petals!
19. This US Citizen Says -
Christy ,   Boston, US   (10.04.10)
Don't follow what US leaders want. Israel - Trust in God. Do what's best for Israel. Everyone seems to want peace. Many seem to think Israel should do 'whatever it takes'. Let the other side make some concessions this time around. How many 'peace agreements' have there been where Israel gave up land and did not get ANY peace in return? Remember what happened after Oslo!
20. Is this man for real? I mean MAN!
Israeli 2   (10.04.10)
Israel has finally discovered a hero in its midst. A REAL hero...a REAL man. He must be more outspoken. If this is his character and mindset, I would vote for him in the next election. No billions of dollars for land. Israel is not for sale.
21. Pressure by Obama
Jan ,   Houston USA   (10.04.10)
Thank God for Leiberman...the only person making sense in this mess. Whatever Israel gives to the Palis, let Jordan and Egypt give an equal amount....why should Israel be the only one being asked to make sacrifices...Jordan has plenty of land to spare....share some with your fellow Muslims for heavens sake and leave tiny Israel alone. Obama cannot dictate anything to Israel, we must be strong, and stand up for ourselves as we are alone in the world. NO MORE CONCESSIONS!!!! FREEZE ARAB BUILDING!!!!
22. Forced Peace
izzy ,   USA   (10.04.10)
I agree with Mr Lieberman. You can tell Israelis are forced to do peace. 1.)The Arabs will not recognize Israel as a jewish state. 2.) The Arabs are pushing the settlement freeze or they will not continue the negotiations. A.) The settlement location the Arabs want the construction freeze, is not near the boarders we are discussing for a two state solution. (Pitty Israel does'nt make the world aware of any details). Just with those two items alone would make any other country walk from peace. Not one gesture of peace is shown from the Arab people. What about the Kidnapped soldier Gilad Shalit? If you are making PEACE wouldnt you give back the person you kidnapped? or make the deal of 500 Arab prisoners that sit in Israeli jails that are murderes with blood on thier hands trade for one prisoner. Who is Israel even making peace with?? The Arab people never condemed any acts of terror against Israel. Israel is being pushed by USA to close this deal. This brokered peace deal feels like USA has more interest getting this done then Israel. State of Israel: I hope when you negotiate a two state solution, please make it fair. If the Arabs are allowed to live in Israel, then Jewish people shall be allowed to live in the Arab state as well. If we remove Jewish people from thier land for peace, then the Arabs should move out of Israel and into thier own land.(Palistine) Crazy that for 60Years Israel was never able to make peace with the Arabs. But with in two months we shall have a frame work of peace we can count on? I dont use the word Palistinians in this talkback because there was never a Palistine. Its a name the Romans called the area. There was never a Palistinian leader nor any history of a Palistine. The Arabs continue to say Israel is occupying the West Bank and Gaza and parts of Jerusalem. Lets Not forget Syria, Jordan & Egypt all attacked Israel at once. And all the Nations lost the WAR. Israel took over the land when she was attacked by the three nations. Allot of Israeli blood was spilt on the land. The Arabs now want the land back, for peace. This whole Palistine is an Regional Arab Adgenda. Arab People=Hamas= Israels Enemy.. Because the Israeli people and the Arab people dont get along, peace could still be derived. However becuase the situation at hand, all the details must be worked out, which could take years . Israel dosent have a relationship with the Arab people where thier is an even understanding. Both parties are on diffrent pages. Israel take your time, dont rush into it. Israel should make peace, But not be rushed into it. For 60 years we couldnt come to an understanding with the Arabs.Its ok if it takes 5-10 years to make the peace and laws. We want it to work. I must be thought out over time. Izzy USA
23. Why would settlers give up subsized living and free land?
Bloodyscot ,   Dallas, Texas   (10.04.10)
There is little room to grow for new settlers in Israel proper but when W. Bank full then what a new war and take part of Jordan or Lebanon. Lieberman is likely telling the truth but Quartet and Arab League have reached an agreement and if it comes down to it Israel will lose. Can Israel afford to continue to pay for one of the best armed armies in the world without help and high trade exports? Sanctions on banking and trade would destroy 80% of Israel's economy and take away US aid also then Israel military spending would have to be cut by 90%. Short term would not be a major problem but after 3 to 5yrs it would be.
24. what? some one is telling the truth??
Larry ,   Los Angeles   (10.04.10)
kol haKavod to Libermann. While the rest of the Knesset are being politically correct (translation: lying) Libermann is liberal with his tongue. Yeah, Lebermann!!
25. Lieberman for P.M.
Wise Saba ,   Israel   (10.04.10)
Lieberman is the only politician who has the guts to stand up & tell the truth. Bibi has betrayed us a second time & he won't get a third try. I will never vote Likud again, Lieberman has my vote.
26. Regardless....
Ram ,   London   (10.04.10)
....of what anybody thinks of this man, or his past, he is one of the few in government who cares for the future of Israel, and certainly one who acts the most in trying to secure that future. The nation should stand behing this man!
27. WOW 8 mile wide Israel
Lioness ,   Israel   (10.04.10)
Thats great news for our enemies! Rockets fired at Kfar Saba, Netanya, Petach Tikva, Afula, Hod HaSharon, Hadera and Jerusalem from Judea & Shomron when it is inevitably taken over by Hamas. Wake up Israel say NO
28. Leiberman
jeremy ,   hula valley kibbutz   (10.04.10)
The guy is a little nutty, however, what he says here is very plusable. Obama and his old Clintonits would like to force a deal on us. Leiberman is also right peace won't come with the Palistinians for may years proof is 10 years of warfare now.
29. Obama trying to force Israel
JUDAH THE LION   (10.04.10)
No way,this is our land for over 5000 years before even Islam was created. This land was promised by G D to the Israelites (which are the Jews) not to Islam or any other religion.The Arabs are occupying much bigger lands which belong to the the Jews e.g Jordan was part of Israel given by the British Empire to the kingdom of Hashemite of Saudi Arabia.Golan & part of Lebanon belong to the Jews. NO MORE,No MORE, we must stand FIRMLY to the WORLD and tell them to go to HELL.Read your bible/or Quran before forcing us to give more of our HISTORIC Lands.G D will be very angry to give his present to other nations.STAND FIRM NOW.l
30. calls it like it is
Shalom ,   Ashdod, Israel   (10.04.10)
Lieberman calls it as it is. He has shown that he has a spine and can stand tall. He will get my vote for PM in the next elections
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