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Cabinet expected to pass loyalty oath bill
Attila Somfalvi
Published: 10.10.10, 00:08
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1. Israeli Arabs have to take the oath as well. Those
vardina   (10.10.10)
among them who refuse should be expelled from the country and stop being Israeli citizens. No rights without loyalty!!!
2. Israeli caste system, Jews, non-Jews
Steve Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (10.10.10)
...is racism pure and simple. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halachic_state
3. Its painful
alexi   (10.10.10)
Ist painful that 65 years af ter the holocaust, one still sees jews like herzog, eitan, even merridor and shai inappeasement mode. It does not work. You should know from olmert's chamberlain dance that appeasement does not work!!!Livni continues the olmert tradition guarnteeing that she will never be elected PM. And this pledge of allegiance is necessary as liberman ably pointed out not to stifle arab malcontents like zoabi, salah, tibi and company but to ensure that if they undertake antiisrael actions,t hey will be stripped of citizenship and booted out. If herzog, merridor, shai and eitan took indepth courses in karate, they would feel more secure about themselves and israel and stop running to the US or the pals with concessions. merridor should know this as his exbuddy olmert made a bloody fool of himself and harmed israel seriously.
4. Israel is Sometimes Too Jewish
Dav Lev ,   Burbank. CAUSA   (10.10.10)
For once, some good news is coming from Israel: 1st, the discovery of billions of feet of natural gas and oil, which would make the country independent (from Egypt, Canada, Mexico, the EU, etc.), and give it some sales clout. Second: Israelis who are attacked in their cars, are realizing that it can be used as a lethal weapon; 3rd,, all new citizens will be required to take an oath to the "Jewish, democratic state of Israel". While somewhat irrelevant (to Muslims), a crime being committed of sedition/treason, would violate that oath..this could be extented to IsraeliMKs who align and side with Israel's enemies. When worked for civil service, I took an oath gladly. Israel is finally coming out of the dark ages. Sometimes its counterproductive to be too "Jewish".
5. It should apply to all or none.
Rivkah   (10.10.10)
6. loyalty
(10.10.10)
are you digging in hearts ??i think its another painting to run away from your loyality or honest
7. problematic message to Israel's minority groups
observer   (10.10.10)
after bearing all the trouble of making aliyah, the olim minority has to pass the test; an oath? they told us automatic Israeli citizenship is waiting for you?
8. you need to
Simon Mohammed ,   Falls church, VA USA   (10.10.10)
define your state before you define the loyality pldge your country is refusing to make a stop of killing and desplacing the Pal you need to fix that first and dont come to play kids games we saw it before and you know that
9.  All Members of the Knesset
take note ,   PT   (10.10.10)
should be the first to pledge allegiance. Then the olim chadashim could maybe be a follow on. First things first
10. Petty and Stupid Bill
Reuven Brauner ,   Raanana, Israel   (10.10.10)
On occasion, I am embarrassed by the pettiness and stupidity of the Israel government. This is one of those occasions. No mature country in the world would require any sort of "loyalty oath" to the country in order to promote or protect some identity or ideology of some sort or another for the convenience of the majority at the expense of the minority. Israel is resorting to very primitive "solution" to dealing with a very complex problem. Very immature, and fraught with potentially highly back-firable consequences.
11. The case for WAR, the recipe for HATE.
aviG   (10.10.10)
The Bill that Legalizes Internal (& external) WAR(s).
12. to7observer
thinkagain ,   jerusalem   (10.10.10)
If they did not come here for the wrong reasons,i don t see why they would have a problem with the oath
13. What about the Oath of Allegiance in the USA?
Boaz ,   Israel   (10.10.10)
You talkbackers that live outside of Israel, particularly the USA need to look at the conditions your country places upon prospective new immigrants. The bulk of you have nothing better to do than 'Israel Bash' - go and get a job! Those who say that Israel is too Jewish, do me a favor, stay where you are. We need to protect ourselves against leaches as well as terrorists so if that includes Haredi Jews that do not want to pay tax and get paid while they warm a seat in the yeshiva, so be it.
14. The Russians won't be happy for it
Jack. A   (10.10.10)
15. what is the real morive?
Simantov ,   Jerusalem Israel   (10.10.10)
I am convinced there is a hidden agenda. And a big part of that hidden evil plan is to swamp Israel with people (i.e. so called refugees) into Israel under the guise that they pledge this alegance with words. But then demonstrate the true motives at a later date...
16. Jonathan Pollard would be required to pledge .. also?
Joy ,   Lala land   (10.10.10)
17. #12 thank you for the advice
observer   (10.10.10)
next Yom Kippur, I'll make it first in my Kol Nidrei
18. NO PLEDGE FROM ME
DAVID ,   JUDEA   (10.10.10)
One can not pledge for something that does not exists. This state is neither Democratic nor Jewish. Its basic set up is still based on the Socialist Russian system which one can see by its committee steered party system, for were there is no accountability by its chosen members towards its public. Although many Jewish people do live here. The state itself is an Atheist entity, which with help of a court system that is not based on Halagic(Jewish) laws at all, will keep on promoting the so-called Israeli identity and suppress its Jewish roots. Its founders wanted to be like all the other nations and by doing so gave up on its true rights to our land. Instead of wasting time on some empty worded law, maybe the state could for once put some effort into stopping rockets falling on its citizens. It is the state that should pledge to uphold its basic responsibilities towards its citizens and promote a just justice system.
19. LOYALTY TO ISRAEL HAS NOTING TO DO WITH MINORITY OR MAJORITY
BENJAMIN ,   SINGAPORE   (10.10.10)
EITHER YOU ARE LOYAL TO ISRAEL OR YOU ARE THE ENEMY BETRAYER ! EVEN HERE IN SINGAPORE I EXPECT THE LOYALTY TO SINGAPORE FROM ALL CITIZEN, RESIDENT , NON-CITIZEN ! BEN SINGAPORE
20. #18 Bravo! Well said! You have to repeat it over and over
Shalom   (10.10.10)
until it will penetrate and straighten the warped infested minds, especially from the Left, who are out to destroy this country. What a silly law to pass, if the government themselves, including the Prime Minister, does not even follow. He just mouths the words "loyalty to being Jewish" but acts like any non-Jew in the world. Jewish is not only celebrating Yom Haatzmaut and eating donuts on Chanukah. Jewish is loyalty to Torah. Jews must keep 613 Commandments whether they like it or not because they will be accounted for it, and non-Jews, including Arabs, 7 Commandments. Now that would be a JEWISH bill.
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