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Palestinians: Settlers cut down olive trees
Ali Waked
Published: 23.10.10, 09:52
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1. Here we go with the olive trees again
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (10.23.10)
"Uprooted" trees? Where are the photographs? I'm willing to bet they were pruned -- as must be done with olive trees. Ever see a mature olive tree? You think you can uproot them silently? LOL! As to the other issue -- desecrating a cemetery -- the Arabs have a long and despicable history of desecrating cemeteries. Jews, on the other hand, respect the dead. I wouldn't put it past any of them to desecrate their own cemeteries -- hey, anything goes for the sake of a photo op. Disgusting.
2. Not again!
Avigdor ,   Israel   (10.23.10)
Even more evidence that the criminal and often terrorist settlers need to be taken out of the West Bank and East Jerusalem before there can be any real peace. No wonder why the Palestinians feel that Israel is not being an honest and forthright partner.
3. To #1.
Marcella ,   Israel   (10.23.10)
Sarah are you saying that the settlers have Never destroyed olive trees or attacked palestinians? If that is what you are saying then you are in blind denial or simply clueless and don’t know what goes on in the West Bank everyday. Even if there were photographs you would probably claim that they were fakes and if it was proven that settlers were guilty of this mindless act of hate you would probably make excuses for them. People like you will never be part of the solution but will always be part of the problem
4. To SARAH
Eli ,   Ashkelon   (10.23.10)
I live right on the coast in Ashkelon but I have been in Judea and Samaria many times visiting friends, I support the settlements but no Israeli can stick their head in the sand and claim that some few extreme settlers have not commit violent attacks on the Arabs, no Israeli can say that these few settlers have not destroyed Arab property. For you to laugh and rubbish this story by saying that there is no evidence or the Arabs did it themselves only shows that you haven’t a clue about what happens in Judea and Samaria. I can only sugget that you stop talking about matters you know nothing about as you sound very foolish when you do.
5. To: No. 4
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (10.23.10)
Oh, cut the holier-than-thou crap! You know darned well who the "Palestinians" sent to man the barricades in the intifadas -- their children! You know darned well that they have desecrated their own cemeteries; you know darned well that they have pruned their olive groves and dragged foreign photographers in to show the "destroyed" trees. If you don't, then YOU are the one with your head in the sand. You're dealing with Arabs here -- ones not any different from the ones that fire missiles at the innocent Jewish civilians along the coastal plain.
6. To: No. 3
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (10.23.10)
Oh, I know all too well what goes on in Judea and Samaria every day. I know all about huge boulders being hurled at Jewish-driven cars. I know all about the attempting stabbing of Jewish civilians merely waiting for a bus. I know all about the extreme vigilance of the Border Guard and the IDF which is all that stands between more terror attacks. I acknowledge that there are settlers with extreme views. Consider the possibility -- no, the likelihood -- that they have been driven to their acts by the bad acts of "Palestinians," who are, after all, nothing more than interlopers in the Jewish State. Israel having had to endure six wars, all of them started by the Arabs and nearly seventy years of unrelenting terror -- you tell me: Who is the REAL problem?
7. To: No. 2
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (10.23.10)
I've got a better idea. Let's repatriate all those Jordanian citizens living in Judea and Samaria to Jordan. I'm sure that there will be no more problems from the settlers then. We have every right to do what the Jordanians did in the aftermath of their occupation of Judea and Samaria and East Jerusalem in 1948 -- they made it Judenrein and dynamited 48 synagogues in Jerusalem alone. Turnabout is fair play; the world tolerated what Jordan did in 1948. The world can learn to live with Israel's actions, too.
8. If arabs unhappy let them leave, lost 6 wars
Yehoshua ,   Usa   (10.23.10)
Let their arab brothers take care of them.
9. SARAH
Eli ,   Ashkelon   (10.23.10)
"You know darned well that they have desecrated their own cemeteries; you know darned well that they have pruned their olive groves and dragged foreign photographers in to show the "destroyed" trees. " No I don't but please feel free to prove what you have said. You have a habit of saying things as if they are true but you very rarely show that they are From your posts I can see that you always switch the conversation back to what the Arabs have done, why is that? Are you incapable of dealing with what a few extreme settlers have done? Are you really going to refuse to acknowledge what these few settlers have done in teh past? You do realise that some settlers have said very clearly that they will keep up this operation price tag….is it not conceivable in your mind that these reports of extreme settler violence and attacks are part of this operation price tag? I think by your replys to me and other you have shown that you are very much in denial, for you the Arabs are to blame for everything and we are not to blame for anything. Is it nice living in such a one sided world?
10. Blind racist Jews will destroy themselves, again
Steve Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (10.23.10)
...Jews can't help themselves, they think they are God, drunk with American power. Jews think they can do whatever they want, that bad behavior is justified in the name of God, that they can get away with it. But we all know how it always ends for the Jews, badly.
11. #9 are you really that naive ??
Alexander ,   NJ, USA   (10.23.10)
Fact - 14 olive trees were uprooted. Let's not consider that they were in all likelihood pruned, but they were uprooted. So let's get this right and I'm sure people who have had tree's removed from their homes can relate to this. It takes some pretty heavy duty machinery and a lot of labor to uproot just one tree. How can the Arabs ignore all the noise that such an operation would cause in the middle of the night? Do you really think that a couple of Jews working in the DARK uprooting tree's would go unnoticed? Do you have any idea how massive the labor requirements to get that kind of work done in one night would be? Come on do you really think that 14 olive tree's would be uprooted without any notice from anyone until the following morning? I really doubt that Jewish settlers after a long hard day of work would decided to spend their entire night uprooting some Arabs trees. Is it so unreasonable to think that the Arabs would have done this work by themselves in the course of a few days and then blamed the Jews for it? I wouldn't be surprised if they finished uprooting that morning and decided well time to call in the press hounds and get some Jew bashing done.
12. Settlers cut down trees on shabbos??!!
adam eliyahu   (10.23.10)
The article is unclear. But I can assure you., there is no way a religious settler would break shabbos to cut down trees. And if you deny that, you are clueless. That would be like saying a group of arabs stole a truckload of kosher wine.
13. #10 If we are drunk on anything it is our survial not destru
rebecca ,   Modiin   (10.23.10)
Sorry Steve, but have u noticed that we have NOT been destroyed. Not by the Egyptians, not by the Greeks, Romans or Crusades etc etc etc. We are still here. So no we cannot "destroy ourselves again". There are none so blind as those who do not want to see.
14. #2 where is this "evidence" you speak of?
rebecca ,   Modiin   (10.23.10)
Arab say so? That's not evidence. You have not even seen the trees.
15. Yeah, well I allege ...
sk ,   USA   (10.23.10)
... that I am Farah Fawcett. Waked has a long history of "journalism" that is Fakestinian propaganda. Not that I would object, as all of this land is Jewish.
16. Has anybody notice
Horst ,   Ge   (10.23.10)
Pretty well all post emanating from the verbal diahorrea poster Sarah. ,,, and the replies look like tH
17. ALEXANDER
Eli ,   Ashkelon   (10.23.10)
I don’t know distance between the Arab village and the trees and neither do you but you seem to think that the trees were close enough for the Arabs to hear any noise even though you don’t know. Like Sarah you are talking about things you know nothing about yet you are very quick to blame the Arabs while ignoring the fact that settler extremists have been destroying Arab trees for years over here. I support the settlements but I am not naive and I know that some settlers have been attacking Arab trees for many years, I don’t support these acts of violence as they give the other settlers a bad name. I also see that when asked to put up or shut up Sarah has shut up, I guess she couldn’t prove a word she said.
18. Paliwood a work
Laurence ,   Givatayim   (10.23.10)
Like every year palestinians with the help of their compars the extrem left wing activists are attacking the jews from Judea Samaria, claming falsely that they were attacked by jews, destroying their own trees to make the world believe it is the result of jewish vandalism. On the contrary many of arabs complaints are false, based on lies. The truth is that arabs regularly are attaking jews, burning their crops but no domestic or international media are reporting it. We know well that arabs are compulsive liers . I don't understand why YNET is always giving a tribune to the palestinian propaganda. Facts are never checked. Accusations are always thrown against jews without any proof. Why should we believe them when they are constantly lying. Sarah B are totally agree with you. Knowing the arabs it is a shame that the israeli medias are giving credit to their statement.
19. To: No. 17
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (10.23.10)
I replied to you at post no. 5. The sun has not yet risen on the day that I can't bat your stupid comments away with little or no effort.
20. To: No. 16
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (10.23.10)
If you don't like my posts, don't read them. Better still, why not spout your incohence on Al Jazeera where doubtless everyone will agree with you -- assuming they can understand the tripe you compose. You really do need to successfully complete the third grade before posting your drivel here. Unless you like being ridiculed, of course.
21. SARAH
Eli ,   Ashkelon   (10.23.10)
You said that Arabs have desecrated their own cemeteries and destroyed their own olive groves I asked you to prove this and you haven’t. Show me reports of Arabs desecrating their own cemeteries or destroyed their own olive groves and I will stand corrected. Until then stop embarrassing yourself, you live in the U.S.A. and don’t know what happens over here and until you do you will never know so please stop talking about things you know nothing about.
22. HUH
Birdi ,   Israel   (10.23.10)
This article states the olive trees were cut down on Saturday night. The articel was printed here at 9.52 am on Saturday morning. What are we to believe??
23. Eli I admire your persistence, but
Alexander ,   NJ, USA   (10.24.10)
there is a fine line between persistence and just being annoying. You said yourself there is no proof that the settlers did it and your motto of "well they did it before" doesn't count as a guilty conviction. Read this if your still not convinced www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/96560. I lived in Israel last year for 11 months and I got to visit some of those Jewish communities in Judea and Samaria and they are some of the most wonderful people in Israel to be honest. I'm sure there might be a few crazies, but everyone has those FEW. It still doesn't explain how 14 olive trees can be uprooted so easily without anyone noticing. A tree that's uprooted makes a lot of noise and in the dead of night on a farm where it's exceptionally quiet it's hard to imagine that the farmer would just sleep through it all. To do such a job they would literally need everyone in their town to go in the dead of night to uproot trees. I don't know if you've seen a tree uprooting done before, but it's hard enough as it is when it's light out and it's not reasonable to assume that people would do it at night. Someone would almost surely get injured. Whatever events happened in the past doesn't mean they are reoccurring events. It's very possible that the Arabs realized how gullible the media is and have just be repeating the same old tricks. Just because they found markings saying Kahane was right at a cemetery doesn't mean settlers uprooted the trees, it's like saying if you went into a store to use the bathroom and wrote Eli was here and that same store got robbed after wards based on your logical we can reasonable assume you must have robbed the store. Also I was having problems with that link so let me know if it works for you and what you think. Also here's a clip of olive tree pruning http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyvMm9LW2-4 I was trying to find a clip of an olive tree being uprooted, but youtube seems to be flooded with Pallywood propaganda in this subject... I wonder why that is...
24. no.21
hebrew prophet ,   israel   (10.24.10)
Hey Eli sitting in Ashkelon ,next you,ll be telling us that it was Israeli settlers who sent Qassams into your neighborhood and nearby Sderot; the fact is the Muslim buries arms caches in his own cemetery ,stores Qassams and other weapons of war in his Mosques,sc hools and kindergartens,all proved during operation cast lead and recent arrms caches found all over the PLO/Fatah controlled West bank delusional leftist pie in the sky claptrap only lasts for so long until it,s caught in it,s own web of fantasy and blind stupidity.
25. no.23
hebrew prophet ,   israel   (10.24.10)
Well done Alexander ,you,ve just reinforced my opinion of delusional leftist looneys,the likes of Eli in Ashkelon ,see my upcoming response to Eli ?
26. Crummy reporting...data missing...
sheri ,   rockville   (11.03.10)
Why didn't Ynet report that Arabs have ALREADY paid back compensation money in the past for damaging their own trees, then claiming it was settlers, then a year later when all info was out found themselves having to pay it back. It was 4 or more years ago, I'd read about it, in Ynet news or Jpost. There are a few crazy settlers, but there are plenty more crazy Arabs, & telling their telling tall tales is old news at this point. And you don't uproot 14 trees, actually ANY tree, without being heard & noticed. Someone spraying in a graveyard, isn't proof of anything else. It could be anyone, settler or Arab, with a screw loose. It's crummy but stuff like that happens all over the world, all the time, on all sorts of topics.
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