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Vote on yeshiva student bill postponed
Roni Sofer
Published: 23.10.10, 22:28
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1. Make the parasites go to work
Avi ,   Israel   (10.23.10)
Enough of living off secular tax money and if thats not enough they bite the hand that feeds them. They dont play by the rules, dont defend the country, contribute nothing while milking the system dry.
2. Yeshiva student bill
ORA ,   Jerusalem   (10.23.10)
The TBers who think they will pay less taxe now, are wishfull thinkers,dreamers,optimists or...idiots.
3. To Avi, #1...
Baruch ,   Marin County, CA   (10.23.10)
But, they make lots of babies, i.e., voters, and that's the bottom line for politicians...
4. Give the haredim the funding they deserve
talmudic sage ,   TA   (10.23.10)
We have earned it ten times over. Only we have children while you, who call yourselves Jews, don't want to have children as it might interfere with your selfish lifestyle. You begrudge Hashem of every shekel that is his. It is only through the constant prayers of the haredim that Hashem wishes to save you from destruction. You should be proud to support both me and my wife and five children and my Shabbo goy..
5. isn't it enough?
martine ,   ashdod   (10.23.10)
I mean, if there are people to criticize here, they are haredim. Stop it, it's dangerous for our sake to hate our brothers. Despite what you think in that website, haredim are the link we have with G-D. Thanks to them, Israel is still under G-D's protection. You don't see it, that's normal you don't wear the good glasses. Open your eyes and stop being a goy. We are Jews and proud to be. If not, you have nothing to do in Israel and serving your country doesn't allow anyone to criticize one sort of Jewish people. Sorry to be so harsh but I live in that country, I love it and I don't want anything bad to happen here and believe me, what I read here makes me fear for the future. Stop harassing haredim. Do you evef know what haredi means? I'm not sure you measure the impact of your actions. Be carefull.
6. Make MK Moshe Gafni show his data about University students
Eric ,   Tel Aviv & New York   (10.24.10)
MK Moshe Gafni "claims the Knesset's Finance Committee has data proving that the students of Israel's higher education institutions receive substantially more than yeshiva students from the state." So show this data, as the students never see this supposed money. This sounds like a case of apples and oranges.
7. It about time
Charles ,   Petyach Tikva   (10.24.10)
that some sane ministers oppose something idiot . Gafni said that secular students , or students at univs costs more . Maybe , but this investment brings a return for the State , while paying those lazzy yeshiva "students" is 100 % lost or thrown away money . The charidim who do not work , don't serve in the IDF , DO NOT DESERVE any agora . Their prayers are'nt usefull , their studies either . Why can charidim abroad work , but not here ? It's not about taxes we pay , but we want our money to be used wisely , not thrown away .
8. Eric # 6
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (10.24.10)
He probably wanted to say that students of higher education are more expensive , they need more than some old books . But , what he forgot , is that this investment brings a return for the State , those students contribute to the state , while the investment in yeshiva students is 100 % LOST money .
9. Yeshiva student bill
ORA ,   Jerusalem   (10.24.10)
Let s us judge by results.The best youth and IDF soldiers are those who studied science and Tora.The secular want Israel to be a nation like all the nations.Sane people realize that as such,even with the best of the best IDF soldiers we have ZERO chance to survive ,surrounded as we are by millions of enemies.And i have the greatest esteem for our brave soldiers.We need something that our enemies don t have.An olympic shampion once said,that even fisically perfectly trained,his victory depends on his mind. The jewish people needs ,now more than ever the "something more" than fisical strength .I hope ,in the near future it will be politically correct to say ,that this "something more"is the help of G-d and the study of the Tora. Do you know what reconfort ,it is for a soldier on the front,to put on his Tefilim ,and to pray?And the ones who want to take this away,with the shoa excuse,are without pity for our beloved heros. Israel will be ONE strong nation,when the Haredim will understand, they need the secular ,and give them the respect they deserve, and the Secular will understand that the Haredim are Israel s soul.Israel is not meant to be a nation like all the nations.Israel is meant to be the light under the nations.
10. We can't rely on something inexisting
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (10.24.10)
That some "people" need religion [ also to behave correctly ] , that's a reconfort for for them , maybe . But many are "believing" because their parents did it , and they repeat it as automats . They may of course "believe" , but not a my expenses . This inexistring thing can't help us , it did not show up some 70 years ago to save what some [ and i too to make my tb easier to undersstand ]call "his people" To study tora is maybe interesting for some , for me it's only the History of the people i'm proud to belong to , but this study is inutile . Those so called "students" don't contribute ANYTHING to our country , they only milk her .
11. To7Charles
ORA ,   Jerusalem   (10.24.10)
The Haredim do not work?They get up at 5o clock in the morning,and go to sleep at midnight.They don t stop working.Do you think one can bring up 12 children without working?They do not have tv or other digital games.Or is it that work that do not bring money is not work?But the very needed money can not buy everything.Money given to Haredi children is thrown away?Isn t it important to keep the majority ,thanks to the Haredi children,against the arabs who have many children? Come on ,Charles,don t be angry on the Haredim.Be happy.We live in a beautyful land,our Home,let s us enjoy life, hand in hand,with all our brothers ,like one family.
12. Ora , they are amongst the POOREST
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (10.24.10)
Do they go to work at 5 am ? what are they producing , what are they contributing ? NOTHING , EFFES , ZERO When you can't afford to feed children , don't make them . And if you have many , don't rely on others to feed them . Money given to lazzy people is throwing away hard needed money for other necessarry things . The charidim enjoy life at other's expenses , they pay for them . But again , and i'm repeating what you wrote : MY # 7 was NOT adressed to you . Compris ?
13. #7 is so spiritual...
AB ,   TheRock   (10.24.10)
...that he can definitely say that the tefillot and the learning of our sacred Torah 'does nothing' for the country. In whose merit to we witness all the miracles in Sderot and neighbouring cities when the type of rockets sent by the Gazan terrorists have an internal map to ensure it hits its target and yet always falls in open fields? Definitely not in the merit of #7 who is obviously an igrate and only lives by dollars and cents. Thank G-d that He is so Merciful inspite of the fact that there are people like #7 who speak such heresy.
14. To12Charles
ORA ,   Jerusalem   (10.24.10)
I thank G-d,that He listened to my prayer:"May the bad not want me" I believed in you,Charles.I thought that under your peau d elephant(bebe elephant),there is something like a warm big heart.I don t know anymore....Your "compris"is clear.With G-d s help i will move on.
15. to Ora
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (10.24.10)
as tu pense un seul instant que tu pourrais "m'avoir" ? The same as when you were thinking that with some "nice" words you could change my lifestyle . Not very smart , you are the looser , i sincerely pity you .
16. To15Charles
ORA ,   Jerusalem   (10.24.10)
OK Charles,i am a looser.Do you feel better now?
17. To15Charles
ORA ,   Jerusalem   (10.24.10)
Are you so afraid that i might be able to change your lifestyle?( un dur a cuire comme vous?)The person who can do that is not yet born, You sound hurt,Charles,if it is because of me,i am very sorry.I would like to know what i did wrong. Je ne cherche pas a vous"avoir" Thanks G-d,i have everything i need.All i want is,that you are in a good mood.Nothing more.
18. 13 is so retarded
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (10.25.10)
by believing in miracles . It's the same as children who believe in tales . Tell me AB , where were the "miracles" at the Sbarro , buses , restaurants and cafe's bombings ? Maybe that no more people were murdered ? It are the Israeli security forces who avoided other such crimes , not a "miracle maker" you pray to .
19. To Ora 15 & 16
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (10.25.10)
To know what i mean , open your Gmail . I'm , as always in a GOOD MOOD .
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