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Despicable Jewish revenge
Elyakim Haetzni
Published: 25.10.10, 12:09
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1. very good Mr. Haetzni
that man, Phepps ,   Netanya   (10.25.10)
I too am a right-winger and I agree with you completely. The "price tag" activity is despicable.
2. Right wing terrrorists
Avi ,   Israel   (10.25.10)
unfortuently the only language the religious right wing understand is violence. Time and time again they use violence as a means to achive their goals. They have lost public support along time ago, sorry but we are not prepared to give up the chance of peace so an extreme and violent 4% can live in their fancy villas.
3. Jews with no balls get angry with Jews with balls
Yaaqove ,   Haifa Israel   (10.25.10)
why is that? rhetorical question. also its called self defense, sanity, common sense. and why are you being condescending towards arabs or Jews? Both should be acknowledged before passing judgement, but you put down arab acts of barbarism right away. Recognize first that the same honor killings that murder 1000s of mothers sisters and daughters in muslim culture of the middle east are also responsible for a lot of the violence here. anyhow I am glad we have some balls on the jewish side. the jews that let the holocaust happen- jews with no balls and only fear- are not our leaders , nor should they be.
4. but it begs the question...
tom ,   toronto, canada   (10.25.10)
but it begs the question, where are the police in all of this? why are the perpetrators not caught and punished? are the police complicit or just incompetent? and until they are tried and convicted, we should not be so quick to assume blame or sling accusations based on little or no evidence. sadly, israel and its leaders have fallen into a pattern of "apologize first, investigate later", that has contributed very negatively to israel's image in the world.
5. Dispicable
zznhl   (10.25.10)
It may be despicable and against every fiber of European culture in us but its the only language the Muslim culture understands. If you show weakness you will be treated as weak and at every chance will be taken advantage of. If you behave with strength and decisively you will survive. This has been proven time and time again...each new president of USA makes this same mistake, each new European Prime minister. Merkal herself, the grand dame of liberal Europe, stated last week that this was a mistake (for the Germans it is probably too late to change anything already). From stones through windows thro' uprooting a tree, to tanks and F-35's we will survive in the the sea of Islamic culture within which we find ourselves an Island of civilization.
6. Glad this is an "opinion" piece cause not based on facts.
rebecca ,   Modiin   (10.25.10)
Few of the incidents mentioned have a known culprit. Many could be the work of other Arabs. But that would be fine, wouldn't it? It's only bad if Jews do something bad.
7. 4 - There have been number of cases
Dave   (10.25.10)
where the police did act but the right wingers in the government and Knesset threatened bib they will take him down if it continues. Thus no convictions, no arrests.
8. Why does Yedioth continue suporting illegal jewish settlers?
christianpalestinian ,   las vegas, nevada   (10.25.10)
It should be very clear to YNET that israel remains in clear violation of many UN resolutions and international laws pertaining to their military (and settler) occupation of the palestinian west bank and east jerusalem.
9. OK to steal land, but don't hurt the natives
Steve Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (10.25.10)
...true wisdom.
10. To the extent I am aware
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (10.25.10)
... it has yet to be proven that radical Jewish settlers are responsible for any of the acts which Mr. Haetzni attributes to them.
11. No this is not despicable, end of discussion
Genuine Moshe   (10.25.10)
12. One set of rules
Jozef ,   Canada   (10.25.10)
Jews behaving like arabs. But we as a people are morrally superior right? Screw that crap. If we ever want ro defeat the arabs, we must fight like arabs. This arab tactict has worked to drive the Jews out of nabulas, hevron and many other Jewish towns. If we fight like arabs.....
13. Most Jews support price tag
Joseph ,   West Bank   (10.25.10)
Israeli leaders and people do not even seriously condemn these acts. They have not bothered to capture a single settler yet. I think they support these attacks against us because they think we will leave these lands if they attack us enough.
14. Sara get a clue!
Judah ,   ISRAEL   (10.25.10)
Wow Sara you really are in a minority of dumb! There have been many high profile court cases involving settler violence which you seem to choose to ignore or you are just plain clueless about. You mean to tell us that you don't know about the 3 settlers convicted in 2003 for attempted murder after trying to blow up an Arab girls school? Or the Jewish settler convicted of beating a Palestinian child to death in the West Bank in 1997? Or when the Israeli court convicted 3 Jewish settlers of murder and 12 others of different violent crimes against Arabs back in 1985? Why don’t you read an Israeli newspaper or even better visit Israel maybe then you will be clued in.
15. The Brave Jewish Settlers
Leon   (10.25.10)
These brave moral lights of Jewish culture rather than fighting against the 'oppression' perpetrated by the Jewish IDF soldiers (they are armed you know) go off and attack and destroy defensless Palestinian villagers and destroy their fields and homes and desecrate their places of worship. And the most amazing thing is that Istaelis keep saying hey its complicated you have to give the settlers some understanding while we may find their means either offensive (or maybe not) or think their actions aren't the most effective means - hey we all Israelis can agree that their goals of getting rid of Palestinians is correct.
16. Three main problems with condeming "price tag" justice.
Chaim ,   Israel   (10.25.10)
There are three main problems with condemning "price tag" justice. The first is that we can't assume Jewish nationalists are guilty of the mischief. Many times, leftists have engaged in vandalism as a ploy to tarnish nationalists. The second problem is labelling "price tag" justice as "terrorism". There is no sane comparison between mostly juvenile acts of scrawling graffitti with premeditated mass murder. Thus it is ludicrous to call price taggers "terrorists", as leftists often do. The third problem is context. One needn't condone "price tag" justice to understand it's cause. People do eventually get fed up when they vote right and get far left. When the courts appear to empower the enemy at the expense of Israeli civilians.
17. JUDAH
Eli ,   Ashkelon   (10.25.10)
Don’t bother replying to Sarah as she doesn’t know what goes on in Israel or Judea and Samaria, she lives in the U.S.A. and only embarrasses her self by thinking she know what happens here, the other day she said that thew Arabs have desecrated their own cemeteriesand destroyed their own olive groves but was struck dumb when I asked her to show me these reports.
18. "it taints the settlement enterprise" - So who is behind it?
Marcella   (10.25.10)
It's not enough to condemn these actions, it is imperative to investigate WHO is doing the inciting. I'm not saying that all Jews involved in Price Tag are being directly manipulated by someone interested in discrediting the movement, but some of them may be. Settlers themselves are best positioned to do their own investigations. It may take some true intelligence work to find out who are the outside agents behind these actions, but the exposure of even one individual would prove the point that some settlers are being manipulated by their enemies. These acts do not advance the cause in any way. What settlers ought to be doing is pressuring their MKs to legalize the annexation of the land. Everything else is at the very least a waste of time and a distraction.
19. #10 Sarah B
(10.25.10)
There is a lot you are not aware of isn’t there?
20. Lost it already
Ussishkin ,   Tel Aviv Israel   (10.25.10)
"If we lose our humanity along the way, one day we’ll be asking what’s the point of it all." We lost it the day we began the occupation, and the answer to the question 'what's the point of it all?' is rather like asking why climb Everest? - because we could. Did we need to keep the occupied territories once we took them? No! Have we earned anything from them? No! Has it made us better Jews or Israelis? No!
21. Eye for an eye
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (10.25.10)
The Arabs have been getting away with these type of crimes for decades and Jews are suppose to act like Christians and turn the other cheek? I don't think so. The Arabs have brought this upon themselves. If they don't like then just maybe they should stop doing it.
22. Ten commandments
Rabbi Yishmael   (10.25.10)
Rabbi Yishmael was an esteemed Talmudic personality and islam adheres to the Ten commandments. In eretz yisroel those of islam that want to live in peace with their jewish christian and humanitarian neighbours must be under our protection. In eretz yisroel the jews must control security but according to the geneva convention monitored by independant humanitarian laws,
23. # 10
Yaniv ,   Israel   (10.25.10)
Hey Sarah B why don’t you educate yourself and visit the West Bank or a just visit Youtube, here is a clip from the Israeli Channel 10 News showing settlers attacking people trying to harvest olives: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYtvb8OW_cg That was just the first clip that I came across but there are loads more clips yet you seem blissfully unaware of all this, why is that? Are you really going to tell us that you don’t you know that some settlers are violent extremists? These religious settlers are the ones that give us a bad name but idiots like you who pretend that this problem doesn’t exist make us look like a laughingstock.
24. #20. "Occupied territories" are heartland of Israel.
Chaim ,   Israel   (10.25.10)
#20. Look at any map of Israel. Israel's heartland is not Tel Aviv. It is Judea and Samaria. Geographically, historically and in ever sense. If you feel you've lost your humanity when we gloriously liberated Judea and Samaria, that is your problem. The vast majority of us have no such problem. We feel only joy in the liberation and massive Jewish settlement of our heartland.
25. The "Price tag" is brainwashing.
Josh   (10.25.10)
People who are swept away in protexia or the jack-boot methodologies these cult-like groups believe power is in their hands. What they do not understand is that being swept away in tuff-guy pride from such a well developed cult means, they will not notice they are loosing their identity. The identity of Jews. They have become unrighteous and vile and voilate everything the wanted to be as a human being. If they were to jump back in time and see themselves in the eyes of the child they were once, they would cry. Worse once you form a cult like protexia and become a member, changing your mind and doing the righteous thing when they ask you to be vile, is NOT an option. Their agression as with any cult, locks members in and you become theit slave. Your freedom is gone. Now everything you own becomes someone elses tool and as you grow you find your children become theirs too. It grows like Nazi Germany grew. So the price tag is bigger for the victimizer who can no longer escape the cycle. Every resource and every politician needs to move Israel away from the cliff because the lemmings are lining up and the ocean front and racing headlong into the crushing waves of false supremacy, racism, assault, and injustice. Lemmings should keep their feet on the high ground. What is the "Price tag" charged to converts. A war prisoner may be in a camp for a year or two, a convert is imprisoned for a lifetime of isolation. I am in awe at the stupidity of the brainwashed protxia and jack boot ways. A convert can simply look for a wife and get worse isolation than a prisoner who beats a guard unconcious. Injustice is great. When will Jews drag these thugs back into the light of true courts and judges. One law. Torah that came from G-d's mouth into Moses' ears. Not make believe.
26. Retaliation
Marcella   (10.25.10)
Continuous carnage in places where Sunni and Shiite attack each other should demonstrate that retaliation does not work. What is needed is effective action leading to true Jewish sovereignty over the land, dislodging the left from national institutions, and stopping the funding of treasonous groups. Alleged Jewish acts of vandalism don't do anything for the Jewish cause.
27. to 5 zznhl
nabeela ,   jerusalem   (10.25.10)
your post is against islamic culture and against civilization it is like your nam zznhl .i can not pronounce it i can not understand it . do you do not understand the islamic culture or the civilization .. iam sory about your name
28. to 10 sarah B
nisrin   (10.25.10)
you understand the example .but wants a proofe , aske nadera or lyla or lubna and may be salma .THIS IS IF YOU DO NOT TRUST HIM .. BUT SURE I DO .
29. All condemnation and no proof, no
Robert Haymond ,   Israel/Canada   (10.26.10)
interviews with socalled "pricetakers" and no firsthand witnesses. Just a diatribe of the most ignorant kind. Ynet is stooping to new journalistic lows.
30. Since when are these homes "villas" Avi
Robert Haymond ,   Israel/Canada   (10.26.10)
and fancy at that? I don't think you've ever been to a Jewish village in Shomrun or Judea. Your comments are always predictable and you never add new information.
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