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Students step up campaign against haredi funding bill
Tomer Velmer
Published: 26.10.10, 00:36
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1. Yashiva students contribute nothing to society
Avi ,   Israel   (10.26.10)
Yashiva students contribute nothing to society, they dont serve in the IDF they have no intention of getting a job , paying tax like everyone else and then expect everyone else to fund their so called life style, The University students will go on to become productive members of society, serve in the IDF and pay tax. Time to end the discrimation brought on by the likes of Shas who raise a bunch of uneducated parasites who feed off our hard earnt tax money.
2. LISTEN UP
David ,   Haifa, Israel   (10.26.10)
WE ALL NEED TO VOTE AND BREAK UP THE HAREDI 25% VOTING BLOCK. all these leeches do is sit around and live off of us.... they VOTE. So all.... VOTE in the next election.
3. Time to take back control
Joe ,   Canada   (10.26.10)
Start with the yeshiva students then work your way up to the government. The vast majority of non-Orthodox Jews have paid plenty in blood and money for the existance of the State. God's speed to those who are attempting to end this nonesense.
4. A gross distortion of Israel's Zionist mission.
David Turner ,   Richmond, USA   (10.26.10)
Israel is and should be the homeland to all Jews, including the anti-Zionist haredim. And from where I sit "anti-Zionist" refers to any individual or group that would define out any Jew as defined under the Law of Return and the Grandparent Clause. By their past and continuing efforts to amend or eliminate the Law by insisting on a so-called Halachic definition of a “Jew” that alone places Shas and all haredi parties as anti-Zionist. Personal corruption in Israeli politics is minor compared to the US. But pandering to a fringe at cost to a people, that is truly political corruption.
5. Isreali university students would like to
Al   (10.26.10)
believe that they and only they they are deserving of government grants blah blah blah. Lets look at the facts..shall we? How many of these supposed geniuses actually stay in Israel after they have told themselves that Israel is just too small for them and their talents? In due time the religious will be the leaders in all those fields that the secular believe that they alone are capable of mastering. That includes, the Army. high tech and the new industries of the future. The religious have been trained to use their brains, while the secular are busy looking to be entertained. The point being that most of the religious end up staying in Israel, marry, raise families and in due time will be the majority in every field imaginable. The radical secular lefties are becoming an endangered species..(no kids..no future).
6. Amen
Helen ,   Tel Aviv   (10.26.10)
Amen!
7. WHY SHOULD THE MONEYS COLLECTED OUTSIDE OF ISRAEL
stude ham   (10.26.10)
HELP RELIEVE THE FINANCIAL BURDENS OF AIDING THE PARASITIC HAREDIS? ISRAEL NEEDS ALL THE HELP IT CAN GET ... BUT THE HAREDIS ARE NOT THERE TO HELP THE BURDEN.
8. Reply to #5 and for those of us in the real world
Avi ,   Israel   (10.26.10)
yet you expect me to pay for this so called religious life style. Its really quite simple you can only take out what you put in. if it wasnt for secular tax money you and your type would have to go get a job and heaven forbid serve in the IDF to defend our country.
9. idiot students,
Larry ,   Los Angeles   (10.26.10)
If they had any brains they would protest not the chardeim, but their own secular MK's who see fit to make the deals. By making such deals with the Chardeim, they are able to continue the government. If they do not, then the charadim will leave the government, and they will all be out of a job. As a matter of fact, with out the charadi vote, no government can exist except an anti israel left block with the arabs, so better mull why the yeshiva men get their stipends and you students need to pay. I would say that the yeshiva men are smarter, they sit and learn and get paid from the government, and you who you consider to be superior must pay and pay and pay and yet you think you are so smart. Look again who is winning...
10. human capital
Shoshi ,   tel aviv   (10.26.10)
The problem is that a yeshiva student exempted from IDF service is forbidden by the government to work. Because he cannot earn a living, he not only has the option of receiving a stipend from the government, he has no choice but to accept it. Perhaps this was originally created in order to discourage draft dodgers. Either way, this system is unsustainable. Yeshiva students should receive the same benefits as any other college students. This isn't about one's value as a citizen because of one's education—someone who studies Latin, philosophy, or Sanskrit certainly isn't more or less "valuable" to Israeli society than someone studying Torah. Knowledge that is valued in one society may not be valued in another: a Torah education may be useless in the context of secular society, just as a classical liberal arts education may be superfluous in Haredi society. Furthermore, if a Haredi yeshiva student can be exempted from IDF service because he has strong ethical, religious, or political misgivings, a sincere and passionate pacifist should have that right, too.
11. No. 5
Sh ,   Ashdod   (10.26.10)
Best of luck to all that bla bla written in your post. Please, please do concur the army and high tech and new industries but rememer - very important - to do that you must educate yourself according to the standard of seculars (otherwise no job as tora studies do not provide job) and do serve IDF to concur the army. Please do multiply with your kids but not on our account. Please do all this i will belss you with all my might and heart as I am tired of carrying you all on my back. Please Please do so.
12. Charedi Funding
william stern ,   n.y., usa   (10.26.10)
Charedim do contribute to Jewish society by learning traditional texts and forming a moral backbone for Jewish society. Unlike their Jewish brethren in University they are not promiscuous, they dress modestly, they do not go to movies, or waste their time on TV. The majority I know pay taxes. The Army is a diffrent issue which is hard for some one who is not Charedi to understand. It is virtually impossible to be ultra orthodox in the Army- kashruth, snius etc. However one problem I have with them is their take on the Zionist state. Let's be tolerant and appreciate what they do for the Jewish people.
13. #12 and Haredim leeching off seculars
Jules ,   Tel Aviv   (10.26.10)
They are not leeching off only secular people but from ALL society that contributes to paying taxes this includes the religious as well. As far as army being problematic because it isnt kosher that is complete bull. the army is totally kosher!
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