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Survivor who'll secure sign stays in Auschwitz
Danny Adino Ababa
Published: 07.11.10, 14:53
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1. poetic justice
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (11.07.10)
good triumphs over evil - islamic genocidal terrorists take note.
2. Poland's goverment should not employ him
Justine   (11.07.10)
The man clearly has strong anti-Polish prejudices. What with "Here's another Jew who would do anything for money'" Why would anybody say that? Is he doing something disgusting? As for his mother - did she advise him not to step on the German soil as well? Because it seems to me that should be the priority (BTW, Auschwitz was within Germany's borders during the war).
3. Interesting
Adam   (11.07.10)
So he thinks people responsible for security at Auschwitz are a couple of anti-Semites who think Jews will do "anything" for money. I forwarded the link to a couple of Auschwitz Memorial employees.
4. anyone with an ounce of pride would refuse payment
in his situation- ,   good for him   (11.08.10)
5. #2 He was recruited for the job
Cynthia ,   USA   (11.08.10)
And he's highly qualified. He's also Polish. Considering his experience, his feelings are perfectly understandable. Grow a heart Justine. Even trolls have hearts.
6. #2 Justine
bob ,   NZ   (11.08.10)
You make it sound like the Polish government is doing him a favour by employing him. This impression of an employer-employee relationship is precisely why the man had to refuse payment for his services, as a matter of principle. Its hard to believe that anyone would not sympathise with or understand this.
7. @ Justine, #2
sceptnick ,   Zielona Gora, Poland   (11.08.10)
Justine, Plse pay yr attn. that Mr. Gordon has partly broken his metal bariers. He will step the Polish soil. I agree with you that in his words still stereotypes do sound. But.... give him a chance. He will meet open minded people here, in Poland and it SHALL be a good opportunity for him to change his "mental balast" which is so complex that we can't understand it as we have not exercised all of those horrible things
8. to sceptnick
Justine   (11.08.10)
Maybe...but sometimes I'm just fed up. The Polish gov. is the employer (no matter what) and they probably had a large choice of experts. I don't think he's the only one. They choose him because it's symbolic. Paying a "large sum of money" (they couldn't know he'd refuse) is a poor investment to change one person's mind. Plus now he's trying to make it look like he is doing the Polish gov. a favor. They should hire somebody normally and have a normal business relationship. You know I have no issue with them hiring Israelis, I just don't like this situation.
9. to sceptnick
Justine   (11.08.10)
He could have been more discrete about his motives or explain his reasons differently. If he said "I don't feel like working there so I refused payment because I don't want people to think that I changed my mind for money", I would understand. But the way he talks it looks like he gives out of spite for Poland and contemporary Poles.
10. @ Justine
sceptnick ,   Zielona Gora, Poland   (11.08.10)
Making bridges between people sometimes is much more important than business matters. Ynetnews doesn't like Poland too much. I remeber one opinion published by this portal (opinion by Zev Tzahor on Polish contribution in Shoah, more accuratly in Auschwitz slaughter) which - when protested by many people- was removed from the Ynetnews. However, true history of Auschwitz C.C. wasn't presented as a portal's comment to the Auschwitz lies by Mr.Tzahor. Let me repeat: building bridges between people sometimes is more difficult than purely engineering works. But.... it's needed because the last postwar found mitzwah says: "Thou Shalt Not Give Hitler a Posthumous Victory”.
11. Justine cntd.
(11.08.10)
"He could have been more discrete about his motives or explain his reasons differently." I absolutely agree with you. But... ...read my previous comment addressed to you - you never know if authorisation of his "wording" was made by Mr.Gordon and what was the Ynetnews' aim to publish those phrases when they decided to publish this article (paper). Do you really trust Internet jurnalists? :)
12. OK, fine
Justine   (11.08.10)
Ok, fine. I'm in a gloomy, sullen, "pieniacki" mood and I have no heart ;) But, I see your point. On another cynical note though, I had this idea that the choice of this expert might be part of a clever "cover our asses" strategy by some Polish bureaucrats. A former inmate and an Israeli...Nobody can dispute the choice even if something goes wrong (future thieves may be more clever and sophisticated than the last ones). With Israeli security system at Auschwitz, Poles (and those responsible for developing the new security system in particular) will have their backs covered. Any failure will be shared. And all this practically for free...I think some bureaucrats will have a feeling of "job well done".
13. @ Justine
sceptnick ,   Zielona Gora, Poland   (11.08.10)
I do not think that's a bureacracy matter. Normally in Poland, bigger expenditure of the public money must be contracted in a form of a public tender which is a complex procedure to be followed acc. to Polish "Public Tender Act" (full competition conditions between oferees must be provided). Consequently, either this money is not big enough to be contracted in the way of a public tender (i.e. , money are not big, indeed), either the works by Mr. Gordon are not cotracted yet or he or somebody else has offered the works free of charge at the very beginning on a specific basis. There are also the other options (the issue is to long to present everything, here). However, if State Museum of Auschwitz contracts anything from Mr. Gordon I think that the author of the note in Ynetnews.com writes a part of the story instead of writting its full version.
14. Justine&All
sceptnick ,   Zielona Gora, Poland   (11.08.10)
The most important information, however, was not provided in the above Ynetnews paper: Auschwitz No. I Camp was bulit in 1940 for POLISH prisoners. It was so many of them in many Gestapo prisons that model of a concentration camp (earlier practiced in Germany in respect to German camps prisoners) was implemeted by nazis in Poland. First mass egzecutions (many thousands of people were killed, many tens thousands in public egzecutions) were made on Poles and were continued to the end of the German occupation of the country. The most famous KL Auschwitz sign "Arbeit macht frei" which now woldwide and in this paper too is conncted to Holocaust was manufactured by POLISH prisoners of the camp who passed the gate of the camp. The first thousands - many of them - of Auschwitz camp prisoners were Poles, later after Hitler nazis have invaded SU - Soviet POWs as well. First gasification of people in this camp was made on Soviet POWs and Polish prisoners in 1941 one year prior to beginning of mass extermination of Jews after "Enloesung", etc. Auschwitz is a cemetry for many nations.
15. "I was born in the camp in 1942", ...
split ,   usa   (11.09.10)
Who's concentration camp? "Gordon knows those monsters well" No kiddin I don't remember anything when I was 3 , darn ,...
16. #14 - My 2 cents ,...
split ,   US   (11.09.10)
Mass extermination of Jews took place in neighbouring Birkenau not in Auschwitz ,...
17. #16
sceptnick ,   Zielona Góra, Poland   (11.09.10)
Auschwitz II means Auschwitz-Birkenau. Birkenau is the German name of the village Brzezinka whereas Auschwitz I is the name of the main camp within the structure of Auschwitz camp. There was Auschwitz III as well.
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