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Bibi may pay to deport migrants
Attila Somfalvi
Published: 27.10.10, 18:22
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1. I dont get it, why do they goto Israel and not europe?
Omri ,   Israel   (10.27.10)
2. Bibi! Dont be an idiot! Please!
Sherry   (10.27.10)
There is no money for the disabled, no money for the poor, no money for the hospitals, no money for universities and schools....and you plan to give money to African countries? Are you insane? Once the dictators in these countries realize what a kind and benevolent prime minister governs this poor and miserable country, they will make it THEIR BUSINESS to send over more migrants, so as to make the most of this "revolving door" effect. Find some other way to get rid of them !!!
3. 3 Issues
John DeLancy ,   Alaska, USA   (10.27.10)
First, since people have come into Israel withouth authorization and afterward detonated explosive vests, I am _shocked_ that Israel would even allow itself a problem with illegal immigrants. That is deeply troubling. Second, either they are refugees or they are not. If not, then you don't have to pay money under the table to deport them, just do it. But if they are, then feed/shelter/clothe them, it's your responsibility to HaShem who gave you refugees to care for. Third, and the real reason for this post, are you making any effort to convert your guests? Perhaps HaShem brought you penniless outcasts because He wants you to bring them into the family of Israel (and don't dare look down on penniless outcasts, considering that many of us were exactly that after being liberated from the camps after WWII). If you tell them what it is like to be a Jew (the good and the bad) and what they must do to become - and to live as - a Jew, you might be surprised to now have many more in the family of Israel. Refugees and migrants are not a burden, they are an opportunity.
4. There is a legal solution: UNHCR refugee camps
Marcella   (10.27.10)
If they cannot be immediately deported, they should be placed in UNHCR refugee camps. Actually, placing them in UN camps would be more effective because if you return them across the border, they will simply try again. Some similar happens in some American states, where there is increased pressure to give prison sentences to those who cross the border illegally. Returning them to Mexico just results in them trying again the next day. Place all "refugees" in UNHCR camps and hand over responsibility for their upkeep and resettlement to the United Nations. Any other act will backfire on Israel.
5. Illegal immigration equals declaration of war on Israel
Alexander ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (10.27.10)
No matter what the reasons may be for the illegal immigrants coming here, the fact is that Israel is only the homeland of the Jewish people and that we have neither the responsibility, land, territory, money or the resources to take care of the entire world's problems. We exist to serve ourselves and not others. So what to do? Simple. Do what the Americans are doing to the Mexicans - fire at them and kick them out. And warn all countries that illegal immigrants and/or people or individuals trying to cross the Israeli border will be shot on the spot - and this all African and Asian countries should know.
6. Shame on Israel...poor and the wrong color
Shmuel ,   Billings, USA   (10.27.10)
just throw them out...YWH will not look kindly on this nation...Israel is under judgement...it must repent
7. We have the same problem in the US
Rachel ,   US   (10.27.10)
John what are you smoking? These are economic refugees. We can't take in everyone poor refugee from Mexico/South America anymore than Israel can.
8. Why not take these millions to secure the border
Carrie ,   USA   (10.27.10)
Wouldn't securing the border strengthen Israel's security AND stop illegal immigration? Seems like a win-win to me. Bribing corrupt African leaders will only bring more problems. Maybe Bibi is not as smart as we thought.
9. Omri - Good Question!
John DeLancy ,   Alaska, USA   (10.27.10)
Omri, the answer is probably because the Almighty is drawing them. In Joel, chapter 3, we see that HaShem will draw all nations to fight against Israel (actually against Him, and more accurately, to be judged by HIM). They won't be saying - "I want to go to Israel and fight against the Most High and suffer the judgment thereof." They will have what they think are good reasons or excuses. Likewise, the migrants and refugees (2 similar but different peoples) are probably not saying "I have no people; I want to be part of the children of Israel and serve the Most High." They probably have reasons or excuses. But maybe HaShem is drawing them to find out what the Jews are like ... and to join them in serving the Almighty.
10. Withdraw radical settlers, place illegals in outposts
Yosef ,   Haifa   (10.27.10)
Plenty of room for the illegals in the unauthorized outpost settlements if Israel withdraws the fundamentalist settlers back to the main blocks.
11. We need to get rid of them somehow
zionist forever   (10.27.10)
1200 a month has potential to create a huge demographic imbalance in a country the size of Israel especially one which wants to protect a jewish majority. Even if we can get past the legal process and countries agree to take them then we have the Knesset & immigrant rights to get passed. An attempt to deport 1200 illegals who were not refugees the immigrant rights groups and later Knesset turned it into an issue all about cute little chldren and it ended up taking over a year to agree on some kind of guidlines and the left are still up in arms because we plan to deport 400 out of the 1200. If we want to get rid of any of this lot most of whom claim to be refugees even if they are not people like immigrants rights groups will find a way to stop the government. Either drag chilren or the Holocaust into it. We need to do something to control all these people who claim to be refugees and the non refugee foreign laborers with or without cute little children. It will of course get us into more trouble with the UN, Europe & probably the Obama regime but we must put Israel's interests first. When Egypt finds these people crossing through its territory soldiers shoot them on orders. We either do something about this or we will be seen as a soft touch for anybody seeking a better life and Israel will be flooded by refugges and non refugees alike and we will have to spend money to house them etc. Its also going to have a huge impact on the jewish demographics and the schools will be pushed to breaking point with all the children of non Israelis. Time for more tough and contrvertial decisions and less compassion.
12. #6 - Nice try but psychological manipulation does not work
Jew   (10.27.10)
We don't fall for it.
13. sums of millions? and who is the stupid that pay that?
gili ,   israel   (10.27.10)
the answer: we are. our taxes. stupid country! eny else country at worlwide had already orgenazied a buses with free ticket to africa.only this shit country acting worng way!
14. Israel wake up, smell the coffee!!!
(10.27.10)
Or you are going to end up like Europe in the next 20 years, most of these immigrants have a Muslim background...don't give them a status, return them, no European country will issue them a visa, the only way is to deport them....now...its sad but the world is a chaos....
15. be kind to strangers for you yourself were strangers
(10.27.10)
and i thought israel was ment to be a light unto the world
16. "according to international law, it is forbidden to deport-
miriam ,   israel   (10.27.10)
a human being who has no place to go."- where is stupid Golston to saying know "crimes war" against israel?
17. Expel Jews who own slaves
(10.27.10)
Why not expel Jewish Israelis who import sex slaves and keep them in horrid conditions around Tel Aviv? Or those who own Asian slaves that work the farms that Israelis dont have the will to do anymore. Why doesn't Israel clean up her own filth first, instead of innocent Israeli born children.
18. One Last Post :)
John DeLancy ,   Alaska, USA   (10.27.10)
(I won't post more to this topic but will be glad to read more posts - it's important and everyone's comments are meaningful) Josef in Haifa: The settlers are doing exactly what the Almighty commanded, building and repopulating the Promised Land. They should never be moved, and may HaShem strengthen their arms and increase their families. Jew (#12): our friend in Billings was not being manipulative, he was saying he feels Israel is sinning against the Most High by sending away the penniless outcasts, and that Israel needs to repent. If he's wrong, just tell him, if he's right, you probably should repent. (and Shmuel, don't just pronounce a nation under judgment - that seemed a bit ... casual to throw out there) Finally, Zionist (#11): I understand the need looks greater than your ability to supply, but it's not greater than HaShem's ability. Never, ever choose to have less compassion. post scriptum: why 3 responses to this one story? because I know what it's like to be an outsider and not wanted, and if these people have the chance to go through the conversion process and become JEWS, I don't want that option to just be ignored. The penniless outcasts (cute kids or ugly adults) and Israel would both lose out.
19. Bibi, build the fence already!
Judah ,   Golan Heights,ISRAEL   (10.27.10)
You were supposed to start it last August.
20. #13 Gili.. You are worried about your 1 mill tax dollars?
ace ,   san fran, usa   (10.28.10)
What do WE, US citizens say about our tax dollars that are going to Israel? You may need to pay a couple of million to get rid of you, while we pay BILLIONS to Israeel for Europe and the rest of the world to get rid of YOU, by sending you to Israel !!!! But since we support monarchs and ruthless dictators in the world, I guess we can live supporting a racist state like Israel..
21. shame on the country they left behind
Y.net web reader ,   Niles.IL.USA   (10.28.10)
...many evangelical, catholic ministries as well as the US Government has poured millions of charity dollars into some of these countries...where or who squandered it all that it does not reach the less fortunate
22. no.23
hebrew prophet ,   israel   (10.28.10)
But your hard earned taxes are used to prop up a Pashto warlord in Kabul ,who at the same time accepts Shiite baksheesh from Tehran ,and not forgetting the Egyptian dictator of Cairo who also takes Yankee dollars whilst grooming his son ,in typical Muslim style to take over from Papa , how dumb can these leftist looney Obamaites actually get ?
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