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Olives of wrath
David Ha’ivri
Published: 31.10.10, 11:59
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31. we must agressively get after these dangerous leftist fools
ralph   (11.01.10)
32. to #30 you incite against Ishay, it's no diference
ghostq   (11.01.10)
doesn't matter from left or right you acusse people while you practice the same, oh and rabin got no connection to olive trees, and palis weren't here 400 years ago, for real, the first muslim who conquered Israel in the year 746 were from egypt they hired mamluks to "help" them to Islamitize the area. smaritans r samaritans they r not arabs. and the last time you checked for facts were never, btw Arafat also came from Egypt.
33. How long was Forever?
John DeLancy ,   Alaska, USA   (11.01.10)
Avi, you must have some new definition of forever, if PLO Chairman Yasser Arrafat created the Palestinians. Given his admission, "forever" must mean to you, what, 35 years? Maybe 43 years, max. The children of Israel don't make stupid, obviously false claims: they only trace their history in Israel to about 3500 years ago. So, 3500 years for the Jews, 35 years for the so-called Palestinians. Yea, forever must mean different things to different people.
34. #27 Zuhair Muhsin was not our FM !
Salma ,   Palestine   (11.01.10)
Do you need to remind you that Lieberman is nothing even for Netanyahu, just a number. As for Arafat, I'm not a big fan of him, however , I'm sure he didn't say that, not only because it is a lie, but because Arafat can't question the legitimacy of the people who is boss !! Michael, re-read Arafat's biography and try to read between the lines... to understand behind the words.
35. Foriegn interference
Proud Israeli   (11.01.10)
Thank you Ynet for publishing this article, its about time the truth was told about this endless provocation by Israel's enemies at olive harvest time. I have seen for myself that the whole of the Shomron is so covered with Olive trees that many are not even harvested! This means that not only is there is enough fruit for everyone, but plenty of branches are hacked off by local Arabs for making charcoal for cooking and heating in the coming winter months. These are facts that few people are interested in!
36. Fess up Mr Ha'ivri
Sean ,   MOntreal, Quebec   (11.01.10)
There is nothing outlandish in the suggestion that the media are parasites for conflict, both real and imagined. Beyond that your suggestion falls into the category of ludicrous. Like so many other ideological zealots, you don't contest the facts, but propose theories of conspiracies of motivation. If you want something investigated, why not start with the IDF's impotence in dealing with the settler transgressors? Google the videos. They are countless. Please don't tell me that part of your theory is the Palestinians control the media! There are many NGOs who would be more than happy to report that the harvest was culminated without incidence and that it shows a sign of hope. I like the title of the article though. I am not sure Mr Steinbeck would appreciate the appropriation under the circumstances.
37. #29 John in Alaska
Sean ,   Montreal, Quebec   (11.01.10)
Having read your talkback, it is clear now how a bimbo cheerleader could have been elected governor of your state!
38. ghostq@#32
Sean ,   Montreal, Quebec   (11.01.10)
And Moses?
39. The Big Lie redux
Mikesailor ,   Miami, FL   (11.01.10)
I often find it strange that so many Israeli Jews are willing to swallow transparent crap so long as it agrees with their own philosophy. So now the problem is not the settlers and their 'price tag' policies, nor their well documented destruction of olive trees and their theft of olives. No, the problem is those dastardly NGOs and international monitors which report the destruction. Like most Israelis, when faced with bad news, their first reaction is to 'shoot the messenger'. Even stranger is the wholesale adoption of the myth that the Palestinians, who planted and nurtured the olive trees for generations, are somehow 'interlopers'. The Palestinians; Muslim, Christian and Jew, lived and drew sustenance from the land for millenia. After 70 AD, who in their right mind thinks that all the Israelites were removed and ethnically cleansed from the area? Only a small percentage left in the Diaspora. The majority remained and, over the years, basically learned to live together. It was only with the influx of Jews and Zionism from Europe that the ethnically based theft from the indigenous began. And, no matter how may 'Israelis' deny it, such theft from,and dehumanization of, the indigenous proceeds apace. The only matter the writer deplores is that the outside world is privy to reports of Israeli 'setttler' actions. Nothing more. And the lies he tells are merely pap for the racists who eagerly swallow his garbage disguised as 'facts' like flies to carrion.
40. #39 LOL
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (11.01.10)
You have spouted Arab myths here on a daily basis. When confronted with facts you call them lies. Just today Hamas admitted that 70% of all the casualties in Operation Cast Lead were combatants, just as we said. Care to call that a myth too? Bet you are a big enough moron to try.
41. :: Mikesailor - #39
Matty Groves ,   Fairport   (11.01.10)
Well put, indeed many Ynuts will believe any old rubbish if it fits their ‘beliefs’ however some Ynuts will just make up rubbish (non-existent ‘fact’) to bolster their bias and beliefs. For example Gee in #40 has just declared that Hamas has “admitted that 70% of all the casualties in Operation Cast Lead were combatants”! Where the Ynuts get this crud from is beyond me, anyone reading today’s articles would have seen the report “Hamas admits for first time losing 200-300 men in Gaza war”. Even using the IDF skewed figures a nine year old with a grasp of basic math could work out that 300 Hamas dead members equals 20% of the overall death toll from Operation Cast Lead. This “70%” that Gee magically conjures without substance or fact is just one example where Ynuts will lie through their teeth to save their make-believe construct from collapsing.
42. Little Matty Groves #41
Michael ,   Moscow, USA   (11.02.10)
Hey Matty, watch this! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LUj1sHghxM Half of these musicians are Russian jews. It’s disputable whether Alison Krauss is jewish but Dan Tyminski certainly is. As you can see Matty, even on this forum your pure folk irish soul (by Fairpont Convention standard) is tainted with jews. Pure Little Musgrave…
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