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Ghajar fumes over withdrawal plan
Hagai Einav
Published: 08.11.10, 07:34
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1. why don't you explain things as they are?
robert ,   france   (11.08.10)
anybody who read this article without any knowledge of the field reality won't understand anything. the fact is that these former syrian citizen are claiming their israeli occupied status, and finally their israeli citizenship.they don't want to be lebanese. western journalists should go thereband see that. but it's so politically incorrect. it's something they can't even imagine
2. Read between the lines...
(11.08.10)
They are complaining about Israelis treatment towards them yet it is most obvious that Israeli they want to be. To be Lebanese will be the end of them...
3. Badly written article
Noa   (11.08.10)
I don't understand what is going on and what exactly the residents want, and why they claim the government is not keeping them posted and if it is true or not.
4. I should think they'd be happy to be united with
their Arab brothers   (11.08.10)
Suddenly an Israeli citizenship doesn't seem like such an awful thing, does it?
5. We're going to rely on the UN to keep Hezbollah out?!?!?
Brian Cohen ,   Judean Peoples Front   (11.08.10)
Duh?!?!? There's a precedent for the UN being effective against Hezbollah in Lebanon? Somebody remind me what happened, and instill some confidence in this concept... puh-leeze...?
6. For The Residents of Ghajar That
Doug ,   Rochester, USA   (11.08.10)
Foolishly chose to build their homes on the Lebanese side of the Blue Line, their choices are clear. They can either stay where they are at and become residents of Lebanon or they can abandon their homes and move back across the Blue Line. What were they thinking when they decided to build in Lebanon?
7. Want to stay Israelis
Jew ,   Israel   (11.08.10)
From what I understand, these people prefer to remain Israeli citizens. Evidently we Jews are not so bad after all!!!
8. Israel preparing for war with Iran,clearing up border issues
Bloodyscot ,   Dallas, Texas   (11.08.10)
The only way to stop US/UN pressure for peace deal is a war with Iran but US unlikely to agree to it for atleast 6-8months.
9. Re #4 Don't patronise Ghajar
Andrew Brehm   (11.08.10)
The people of Ghajar never had a problem with Israeli citizenship. Ever since the annexation of the Golan they have been model citizens and they certainl never were Lebanese. They are Arab Alawites and perhaps the village and a corridor to it could be given to Syria if there will ever be peace between Syria and her neighbours and if the people of Ghajar want to be Syrians again. But until then they remain loyal Israeli citizens and do indeed deserve better protection by Israel.
10. Give me a break
Ari ,   UK   (11.08.10)
It's almost comical how the media will pillory Israel no matter what it does. If it doesn't withdraw from lands it is "an occupier," whereas if it does so it is "treating the residents like animals" for "abandoning them" to their Arab brethren...
11. Re #6
Andrew Brehm   (11.08.10)
They were thinking that land they had Syrian papers for was not Lebanon but part of the Golan. It was only later that Israel and the UN decided that the land was part of Lebanon.
12. Ghajar inhabitants want to remain Israeli
Trumpeldor   (11.08.10)
But medias claim that Israelis are racist ???????
13. Wrong move
Brod ,   USA   (11.08.10)
This is a wrong move just as moving out of Ghush Khatif. The nation should speak up against this. Do they want Islamist-Jihadists getting closer to their doorstep so that they can rain more rockets on Israel? The government has made a mistake if they agree to withdraw. Ghajar is Israel's liberated historic homeland. Second, leaving Ghajar is leaving the pro-Israel people there to the wolves and tigers to ravage on. Third, it will be quickly filled by Hezbollah fanatical Islamist-Jihadist fighters armed with rockets and other heavy weaponry aimed at Israel. This is not to mention their tunnels that are being constructed and will be constructed into Israel.
14. from what I know they want to be on the Israeli side
ghostq   (11.08.10)
they will do anything to go to the Israeli side, mmm even when it blaming Israel for something Israel didn't create to begin with. but now hizb is their leader they should take the harsh reality in.
15. The travails of cities divided across borders
Raymond in DC ,   Washington, USA   (11.08.10)
The city of Rafah/Rafiah is situated on the border between Egypt and Gaza. Ghajar now sits on the border between Israel and Lebanon. And Palestinians want to see Jerusalem divided between Israel and Palestine (an interim step until they take it all). Each of these has already proven problematic, while the prospect of a divided Jerusalem would be a deadly blow to the city and its inhabitants. Let this be a lesson to political leaders. Any area of settlement, to engender security and prosperity, must be under one unchallenged authority and with one identity.
16. Raymond in DC
Solomon ,   Bklyn   (11.08.10)
I wish international leaders, especially Israeli leaders, would read your Talkbacks. But that begs the question, do any of them read any Talkbacks at all? Then why are we here? I know; to talk with each other. But these 'leaders' could gain so much in ideas, comments, etc. Oh well....
17. to Raymond from DC
Frank from Cleveland   (11.08.10)
you are absolutely right ..let it be the real owner of the place ..the Palestinians . as long as you have a racist Rabbi leading the wrong path ,you are heading to a major disaster in the near future . don't rent to arabs ,don't rent to refugees ..this is the kind of "" word of wisdom you are getting "" it sound like a jewish Taliban running the show in your fake Hollow establishment (not a country ) .
18. #16 Office of the Spokesman
(11.08.10)
There are in fact positions in the government that entail endless shifts of scouring the media for mentions of specific topics IE a Russian speaker may be assigned to scan any Russian news that mentions Israel. No matter how mundane, things are recorded. Think about interns and writers at comedy news shows... basically hours of scanning news and non-news for the single diamond in the rough. Someone, somewhere is watching.
19. Re #6 and #11
John DeLancy ,   Alaska, USA   (11.08.10)
It is probable that many of the buildings in the norther part of the city were built prior to there being any chance that any part of this city would be declared a part of Lebanon. You can't blame people for not predicting the future of decades later. Andrew, from what little I've read over the past couple of days, it seems to me that Israel had no part in the decision of where to draw the line - that was the UN's (bad) call. The part where our Israel is culpable is in abiding by this unwise and unjust UN decision. Israel should have left the entire city intact and in their own hands. Throwing these poor Golani Israeli citizens to the wolves of Hezbolla is just wrong. Would it be possible to relocate the citizens to the south part of the city (and preferably raze the north part to prevent it from becoming a Hezbolla military base)? The IDF could help them rebuild their homes, businesses, etc safely within Israel - remember, these are not refugees (yet), they are Israeli citizens.
20. SORRY, I MEAN #3 READ #4
HERTZEL ,   TVERIA   (11.08.10)
AND YOU WILL CLEARLY UNDERSTAND.
21. Wish we can be partners
Sami ,   WAshington D.C   (11.08.10)
I am a christian lebanese & I wish and dream that one day we can have friendly relationship with Israel. Both of our cultures have so much in-common it goes back to King Solomon times. I hate the fundamentalist hate filled arabs mentality, God Bless
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