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PA: Freeze settlements or we'll go to UN
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Published: 12.11.10, 18:46
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1. There already is a Palestinian state
Raymond ,   Denver, US   (11.12.10)
Just rename Jordan Palestine and everything will be swell. I don't know why Israel gets demanded to give back lands won in wars the Arabs start; the Arabs as usual want to eat their cake and have it too. Just look at the 73' war; the arabs lose and get to make the initial demands.
2. freeze now or else
moron ,   galut   (11.12.10)
why dont the pals call an election so the PA can claim it actually speaks for anyone except those corrupt arabs getting big checks from the 'democracies' to not have elections which will elect hamas
3. Palestine a word with no definition will never recognize
MATT ,   LA USA,GALIL ISRAEL   (11.12.10)
teh Israel right of existence !! Yes Please go tothd UN, another worldwide Jew Hating Organization! UN has repeatedly refused to recognize Israel as a Jewish Home Land! They have backed up terrorist groups many times not one time anything was issued against terror and violation by the PLO or others. So yes the UNJH=United Nations Of Jew Haters could say whatever they want WE AS LOYAL JEWS WILL NEVER GIVE UP OUR LAND! THE 5000 YERAS JEWISH HISTORY IN BIBILICAL LAND IS ALONE OUR BIGGEST PROOF OF OWNERSHIP! IF ANYONE HAS PROBLEMS WITH IT THEY BETTER DIE AND GET LOST! AM ISRAEL CHAI! JERUSALEM ISRAEL'S CAPITAL FOREVER
4. This is a hold-up
Marcella   (11.12.10)
So Israel's response should be: to annex the heartland now! Enough already of being held at gunpoint: Do as we say or we'll start another intifada. Or threatened with the whole world ganging up on you: Do as we say or we'll get the UN to beat you up. Or the latest: Do as we say or we'll declare unilateral independence. If you truly believe the land is yours, annex it now. If you truly believe the land is yours it would be sacrilegous - and illegal - to give it up. If you truly believe the land is yours, it's high time you communicated your thoughts to the present government. Your government needs to represent YOUR interests: Jewish interests. Not those of the US or the Arabs. Make that perfectly clear and end their confusion.
5. EREKAT
Steven ,   L.A USA   (11.12.10)
And if the Palestinians are stupid enough to go to the Security Council, the U.S. will veto their proposal. I can't believe Erekat is so dense that he doesn't realize that the 2012 Presidential election has already begun and that the last think Obama will do is alienate the Jewish community in the U.S. Erekat talks just to hear himself talk.
6. Better go to Jordan.. Good riddance!
Arthur ,   SF, CA   (11.12.10)
7. the UN already recognized Palestine.
(11.12.10)
they have seat and everything. i don't get what difference any of this makes.
8. a correlation
Michael ,   Haifa   (11.12.10)
as our political "leadership" grows dumber, the previously dumb Palestinians are growing smarter
9. Threats from the Pals: yet again!
Ain't it the truth ,   US-Israel   (11.12.10)
Uh...didn't Bibi just return from DC after meeting with Clinton and attempting to get past the stalled talks? Weren't these talks agreed to be unconditional? Who stopped the talks? The Pals.. Who waited until the freeze was set to expire before sitting down to the unconditional peace talks. The Pals. Who is constantly throwing threats around? The Pals. Who is rioting in Jordan? The Pals. Who threatened the UN this week? The Pals. Who has continued to incite anti-semitism, hatred of Israel and made comments this week from the strip that their aim is for a 'palestinian state' "from the Jordan to the Mediterrainian"??? Yeah...the Pals. Who's reconcilliation talks FAILED this week? The Pals. Hmmm...looks like a pattern, ya think? Seperating between the politics and people of the Arab (Palestinian) persuation is just a pipe dream: a liberal/fanatic opiate of ignorance and anti-semitism. A "solution" for the bedouins,Arabs and their lot has failed abysmally. For a western nation to exist among them will always be met with disdain...let alone if it's Jewish. Go to the UN, let Israel annex ALL of the land they have owned on paper, in spirit and presence for over 3,000 years and there will finally be an end to this circus of creating yet another state for the Muslim/Arabs. Enough already: the liberals are finally waking up to the nightmare their foolish ideals created...the world over!
10. Oooooh
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (11.12.10)
Israel is so fwightened. Tewwibly, tewwibly fwightened. Israel is quaking in its boots .... yawn .... more "Palestinian" sh*t; different day. Nothing we haven't seen; nothing that doesn't make us laugh out loud.
11. So Go - there will not be monetary support
Isaac   (11.12.10)
So go, Erekat. Obama may abstain in voting (and will be out of office in 2012), but there is not going to be any monetary support for the state. The republicans control the House and control appropriations - and they will see to that you and the PA do not get a dime (even money that had been promised they can see to that the PA doesn't get it.)
12. Israel should not fear meaningless U.N. Resolutions.
Chaim ,   Israel   (11.12.10)
A U.N. Resolution to create a new terrorist "Palestine" in the heart of Israel would be as meaningless as the hundreds of other U.N. Resolutions condemning Israel. Israel survives and thrives and the U.N. keeps passing hostile resolutions. Soon the Western World, which funds the U.N., will tire of misuing their money on it. Under no circumstances should Israel knuckle under to the ludicrous "Palestinian" threat. This land is ours now and forever.
13. Jordan is indeed Palestine - Watch for upcoming conference
Marcella   (11.12.10)
MK Aryeh Eldad will host a conference next month in Tel Aviv with the theme Jordan is Palestine. Geert Wilders of the Netherlands will attend to lend his support.
14. Here's an ultimatum: Recognize Israel or fade away
Eitan ,   Chicago   (11.12.10)
The UNRWA is just too good at distributing birth control, and the PA is just too lousy at running an economy. I bet that the actual population of Area A Arabs in Judea & Samaria will fall below 1 million within a decade. Then the majority of the population will be made up of the same people that gave the regions their name: Jews and Samaritans. Maybe even some of the Nabulsiyyin 'marranos' will feel safe enough to convert back to Samaritans. That's what will happen to the region, regardless of what Ramallah says or does. All Erekat can hope to achieve is to gain a few dunams here or there, since the anti-Semitic tribunal AKA the UN will be unable to amass a neo-Crusader army to prevent the "West Bank" from becoming the next Andalusia.
15. So what? Pals will be the same corrupt liars
JT Sling ,   London   (11.12.10)
And having the UN recognize them is going to achieve what? Make things more stable and invite foreign investment to the budding new enterprise called "Palestine"? I don't think so, because such a declaration would only emphasize the already corrupt PA government. There would probably be even less cooperation between the competing capital cities of Ramalla and Gaza City, with both Hamas and Fatah claiming to be the government. The Palestinians already had one civil war that Hamas won in Gaze. Do we (or they) need another?
16. Shut up!
Len ,   Florida, USA   (11.12.10)
.....and start talking directly to the Israelis. You always revert back to your old ways. As a result of the lack of Arab leadership, your people always suffer. Teach your people to live peacefully with others and experience the fruits of a good life. The real problem is no Arab leader wants to die. They are afraid of their own people. This is why, there is no peace. Be brave, have courage, teach your people to give up their evil tendencies. Arafat, the corrupt terrorist, could not make peace because he was afraid to be killed by the mob that helped incite. Any Arab who preaches coexistence is killed. You need to start educating the ones who follow those who teach hate, otherwise you are condemned to continue to suffer. It is your choice......the answer is simple. Everthing else is pretext!
17. freeze now
alexi   (11.12.10)
who wants to negotiate with the bluster of all liars ereckat. Go to the UN , there is no freeze-you are sitting as foreigners on ancestral israel land. Bibbi will concede as he cannot take pressure. beilin, barak, peres,olmert, braverman, herzog, livni, ramon, ben ami, haber, dekel, turgeman, they all blink when the US or fatah sneezes. Who holds his ground are-lieberman, keztelah, landau, orlev. Ereckat- go to the Un, better go to Jordan.
18. Noticed how he only used West Bank?
Eyal ,   USA ISRAEL   (11.12.10)
The Palestinians will always try to look like they are in control or they will go to the UN. You noticed how they didn't use Jerusalem this time? This is after Natanyahu said that there may be a possibility to halt on construction in the West Bank only, should peace talks continue, not with Jerusalem though. This is to show their people (Pals) and their arab brothers that they are calling the shots. Funny how the Pals didn't use Jerusalem this time? They knew if they used Jerusalem, they would just get a slap in the face again from the US and Israel. The Republicans will not let the Pals get the vote at the UN anyways.
19. Settlements will continue forever
Mongo ,   Paris   (11.12.10)
Erekat and his murderous P.L.O. gangsters could go to hell.
20. Erekat is an idiot
Jack ,   Athens, GA   (11.12.10)
They can declare whatever they want, the facts on the ground is what counts. If the P.L.O. continues this "soft" warfare against Israel, they will pay big time with some HARD reality. The Palis should reunite with their brethren in Jordan.
21. And who's going to enforce those 1967 borders?
Raymond in DC ,   Washington, USA   (11.12.10)
The ability to enforce and defend one's borders is part and parcel of what makes a state "sovereign". Either Erekat forgets that or thinks his bluster will bend the world to his will. But the PA isn't capable of enforcing those borders. Heck, the PA can't venture into some neighborhoods of the West Bank, never mind Gaza. Does he think the UN "blue helmets" will swoop in to take over IDF positions? They won't get within 100 miles! Or perhaps he thinks NATO will do his bloody work. He can forget that. Heck, nothing short of the US Sixth Fleet or a world wide embargo on Israel will do that. Then again, that's clearly what they're hoping. But it won't happen. Of course, the PA wouldn't be repeating these threats if the US told them to "knock it off". Instead, the US is handing out yet more cash, so the PA's bluster is not only cost-free but highly profitable! Such irresponsibility on the part of both the PA and the US is only bringing the region closer to war. And when it comes, the PA's high honchos shouldn't be surprised to find themselves arrested and on the next plane back to Tunisia.
22. stop it or i'm gonna tell dad!
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (11.12.10)
pals need to go to 'time out' and cool off. nobody likes a tattle tale.
23. Israel, do not worry, just sabre rattling b.s
Ahmad ,   nablus   (11.12.10)
Unfortunately, this is not the 1st time a Palestinian official use such language to make a political (failled) attempt to stop the Israelis from building more on the illegal colonies, and sadly, we all know that this guy, Erekat, is so full of it that he go for a routine b.s sucsion every few months . it seems to me he is ripe for another operaiton, he is full of b.s and lots of hot air...do not worry BiBi, Erikat will bend over, as usual
24. Sob Story Erekat
Dan ,   Titusville, FL   (11.12.10)
I say YES decare a Palestinian state so that we can respond to any terrorist attack by declaring war and wiping the Palestinian scourge from our land.
25. Partition Imminent
Lynx ,   Palestine   (11.12.10)
26. WON'T EVER HAPPEN
Mark from Georgia ,   USA   (11.12.10)
First the U.S. may ask for Israel to comply but cannot force Israel to do anything. Secondly, the UN cannot do anything without the U.S. consent. This issue would be vetoed by the U.S.. So again we just have some Pallywood BS, attempting to vilify Israel. There is nothing preventing the Arabs from sitting down at the peace table now. Except the fact they won't unless they get their way(pre-conditions) first. So the spoiled brats think that the same people that attempted to destroy Israel in multiple wars and conflicts, think they can dictate the terms of peace. Sorry, loser's don't get that right. When you aggressively try to destroy a country and rejected all UN Resolution regarding it over the last 60 years, you dictate nothing. These guys think they are in the drivers seat, they are not. A veto at the UN will end that fantasy. Then what? Will the Arabs want to continue the terrorism. After all they never stopped, did they? They killed 4 civilians and wounded 6 more in drive-by pre-meditated murders. Gosh you would think the Arabs would want a peace deal by now instead of a Pallywood PR victory. But at least it shows the world where there heads are at, and it's not about peace or a country. Just more delegitimization of Israel. Sad, when they could have peace.
27. Open Your Borders Jordan Here They Come
Dav Lev ,   Burbank. CAUSA   (11.12.10)
The UNSC will never accept. Forgetting that, Israel has the following: 500 nuke warheads (1megaton) on several platforms, including: Jericho Missiles (9,000 mile range), 3-5 Dolphin subs with cruise missiles, landmines, artillery, neutron and cobalt bombs, 7,000 Merkavas/Abrams Tanks, 700 F15Is, 16Is, Phantom 2,000 and hundreds of helicopters (Apache and Cobras), dozens of trainers, shell resistant heavy vehicles, Popeyes, a small but fast and lethal navy....and 1m reservists. So go ahead Abbas/Erekat/Fayyad, destroy your people. Lets duke it out ASAP. I say now. My bet..the Jews will win and win big..sort of like our Nov elections..Obama got a shellacking. A fight with Fatah....they will get a real caning. Open up your borders Jordan..here come 2m of your people. But then again, they can go to UNRWA for US dollars.
28. Kern Country or Bust or Jordan
Dav Lev ,   Burbank CAUSA   (11.12.10)
To Raymond: there are thousands of acres of desert land right here in Kern County Calif., which has never been developed. Hows about shipping 2m so-called Palesinians there..one way tickets. Let the Muslim money here and abroad pay for it. I mean, Arabia just payed 60b for 85 F15Is, ostensibly to fight Iran. Oh my, they will take on Irans 75m people, Rev Guards...nukes..with 150 F15Is.? A few Shihabs over their oil fields in Eastern Arabia..and its all over but the smoke. But then again, who really wants these Arabs living just over the hill. I dont. Guess no easy answer..unless, unless, there is the real Palestine (Eastern) called Jordan. Move over King Husseins flamboyant son.
29. How about...
Lisa ,   Germany   (11.12.10)
Recognize Israel or go to hell?
30. Palestinian Threats
Max ,   Washington DC   (11.12.10)
Does any sane person actually pay any attention to Palestinian Demands and Threats? Someone should tell them, that the losers in wars are not in any position to make threats and demands on anyone!
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