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Palestinians 'waiting for US guarantees'
Roee Nahmias
Published: 15.11.10, 12:02
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1. Pals waiting for US guarantees......
Nora Tel Aviv   (11.15.10)
.....on pre-67 " Auschwitz" borders. Bibi, you will never have a mandate for those suicide-borders. You have to tell clearly Obama that the future of Israael does not depend on Obama`s guaranties but on Israel`s security borders.
2. God gave the land to Israelis - before or after 1948 state
Jack   (11.15.10)
3. pals wait for 'guaruntees'of outcome
moron ,   galut   (11.15.10)
even before they get a freezethey make new dwmands and why not? it is working for them thanx to BHO and israeli misread of american intentions which are to declare peace and extriate itself at best and its capabilities to do so which are less thanx to republican 'shellacking'
4. nice racket the pals have going
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (11.15.10)
too bad they sell their dignity for personal gain. but hey, it's who they are.
5. some $money$ for israelis? / converts back to europe
$$$ ,   israelis ->world 4 $   (11.15.10)
6. Solving the refugee problem, including compensation
Eric ,   Tel Aviv & NY   (11.15.10)
Solving the refugee problem, including compensation sounds good so long as it includes the millions of Jews expelled from Arab countries just like the 100s of thousands of Arabs who fled at the request of those same countries.
7. Has anyone noticed how Abbas' requirements keep going up?
Eric ,   Tel Aviv & NY   (11.15.10)
Has anyone noticed how Abbas' requirements keep going up? First it was a freeze. Then it was a freeze and negotiating final borders during the freeze. Now it is a freeze, negotiating final borders , and solving the Refugee problem including compensation all during the freeze. These topics have 19 years of not being solved because the Palestinians can not make a deal and enforce it. If these are the commitments then what is there to negotiate?
8. WE MUST NEVER AGREE TO BE PUSHED INTO GHETTOS
stude ham   (11.15.10)
regardless of the promises. abbas must not be allowed to extract any kind of 'promise' which will see the jewish people forced behind ghetto walls. israel must reject any demands regardless of the incentives, that will force it behind any kind of boundaries imposed by the goyim. BUILD ISRAEL BUILD!
9. american promises are meaningless
martin ,   uk   (11.15.10)
just ask jonathan pollard. what about the 8 israeli pows? it is time for likud to stand up and regain the upper ground in government netanyahu out aeans, lieberman or sharansky need to take over. the moslem president is taking over the oslo accord and arabian road map with full intentions. there is not much time left....
10. #1
Israel Israeli ,   Tel Aviv   (11.15.10)
Journalist Uri Elizur has already predicted what will happen. Obama will give Netanyahu meaningless guarantees to negotiate borders first, and all other issues (status of Israeli Arabs, status of Arabs who insist on immigrating into Israel) will be discussed after. Once the borders are agreed upon, Abbas will withdraw from the talks, declare a state in the agreed upon borders (it will be recognized) and then call for foreign military presence (probably Turkish, but also Jew-hating countries like Norway) to ethnically cleanse his territories of Jews. He will then launch the next war to force Israel to accept unlimited Arab immigration.
11. #7 err... no
Tomer ,   Hod Hasharon, Israel   (11.15.10)
In fact their list of "demands" has remained pretty constant over the years. In contrast, we keep adding more stuff to our list - most recently that the Palestinians recognize Israel as a Jewish state. (They already recognised the State of Israel). As Abbas rightly noted, it's none of his business what we call ourselves.
12. The American inducement
Sean ,   Montreal, Quebec   (11.15.10)
In an effort to further the cause of peace the Americans have offered Israel 20 jet fighters and ok'd $100 million worth of arms to Lebanon. Wow. That oughta work!
13. Yuck - it's all about the bribe money
Brian Cohen ,   Judean Peoples Front   (11.15.10)
The Pals and the Israelis have a new sugar daddy - Uncle Barak Obama. There is absolutely no chance of any peace deal, yet the American taxpayers will underwrite the charade of "peace talks" and fork over several billion bucks. As a supporter of peace and somebody willing to compromise with the enemy (the Palestinians are indeed still our enemy - they say so all the time), I'm totally confused about the Americans. The Pals couldn't sign a peace treaty if they wanted to - they can't do a deal without Gaza, and Hamas controls Gaza and rejects any idea of a peace treaty with Israel. So what's the point of 3 months of what? More blah blah for 3 months for an unreachable treaty? Yea, talking is better than shooting, but what's the point of the talks?
14. So the problem is NOT the settlements.!!
rebecca ,   Modiin   (11.15.10)
It's that Abbas has not been paid enough. WORLD are you LISTENING.
15. Jack #2
Sean ,   Montreal, Quebec   (11.15.10)
You forgot to mention that he gave the North Pole to Santa Claus.
16. Tulag norom @ #3
Sean ,   Montreal, Quebec   (11.15.10)
You seem to have it backwards. How is it working for the Palestinians? They are still facing the hateful oppression of their neighbour, the American's have offered Israel even more arms and these supposed building freezes are a joke. You are handed gifts over and over again and all the world hears is your incessant whining of how you are victimized. Well, I guess when that method has always worked for you in the past there is no need to abandon it now. One day the American electorate might wake up to this parasitical relationship it has with Israel. Until then, enjoy the whining.
17. how about make peace or go home to jordan or arabia
David ,   Haifa Israel   (11.15.10)
18. #11
Israel Israeli ,   Tel Aviv   (11.15.10)
Keep with the program. Arab leader Ahmad Tibi was interviewed on Israel Radio in Hebrew and explained why they refuse to recognize Israel as a Jewish state. Tibi said that such recognition would mean the end of the conflict and the end to the Arab demand for unlimited Arab immigration to Israel (what they like calling "Right of Return"). Since the "Right of Return" will never be abandoned and the end of conflict will only be reached with the elimination of Israel, they can't recognize Israel.
19. You can paint the "American list of commitments"
seadog1946 ,   Shooters Island, NJ   (11.15.10)
any color you want but a bribe is still a bribe and the world now knows how much it costs to get into Israel's panties. Also, I believe that the "goodies/treats" specified in the bribe are contingent upon a 90 day cement mixer stoppage AND a peace treaty with the Palestinians. No treaty = no US commitments and the world knows that Israel accepted the bribe but didn't keep it's part of the deal.
20. #11 you are mixing final status with prerequisites
Eric ,   Tel Aviv & NY   (11.15.10)
Tomer you are mixing final status with prerequisites. At the start of the freeze he only demanded any freeze in the west bank, now he wants all of the difficult final status issues guaranteed to be solved in the 90 days. How can he let alone Obama guarantee that these will be solved in 90 days?
21. How about the palestinians agree and comit to...
Potash Katiftof ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (11.15.10)
Not bolting the talk over some silly issue again and letting the 3 month clock run out. If israel commits to this 3 month freeze and it doesn't do anything, then what are the options from there, as this one guarantees no further freezes and also assures that america veto's any attempted UN resolutions for uniliatiral state.
22. PA manipulating the world
Brod ,   USA   (11.15.10)
Since when did the PA Islamist-Jihadists become the super power of the world ordering America and Israel what to do?
23. #4 Racket
Paul ,   Miami, Fla   (11.15.10)
Who is running the racket? Pals or Israelis?
24. Watch double-crossing Obama devalue his Israel "incentives"
Dr. L. Brnd ,   San Diego, USA   (11.15.10)
Obama, cheap Chicago political hack that he is, is waiting for Israel to formally approve his incentives" package", so that he can then make it worthless by giving Abbas and the PLO "guarantees" IN ADDITION TO THE FREEZE THEY DEMANDED that are totally unacceptable to. Example: Obama will try to blackmail Congress into approval of his Israel "incentives" by combining them with outrageous "guarantees" he'll try to make to Abbas, all in one legislative package. Thus cheating Israel, pulling the rug out from under Bibi.. This is exactly how Obama has been dealing with the American people, and why he is hated here - can't trust him, his word means nothing. Israel should not hesitate to renounce any acceptance of Obama's "incentives" if he pulls this stunt - the US Congress will understand, and they will make Obama pay for destroying the credibility of US diplomacy with shady deals - its called impeachment.
25. Partition Inevitable, Palestine will be born soon
Lynx ,   Palestine   (11.15.10)
Palestine's birth will usher in a prolonged period peace and stability. Arab institutions hindforth based in Cairo, Beirut, etc. should relocated to East Jerusalem, Capital of the new State of Palestine.
26. Muslim Pres. Obama gains another Islamic Victory over Israel
Linda Rivera ,   New York, USA   (11.15.10)
The Free World no longer has a leader. The anti-Israel, anti-America, anti-Free World U.S. administration now exists to serve all of the purposes and goals of Islam.
27. Pic: Netanyahu gives Abbas Warm Affectionate Embrace
Linda Rivera ,   New York, USA   (11.15.10)
Muslim terrorist Abbas, financed the massacre of Israeli athletes at the Munich Olympic Games and is given warmth and affection from Netanyahu. What a sick world we live in.
28. #25 Stillborn??
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29. #19 "Treaty" not part of the deal.
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30. No. 25 Lynx
Madeleine ,   Israel   (11.15.10)
Delusional as ever. If your so-called leaders truly wanted peace, they would have sat down with us long, long ago. Everything thye demand can be discussed at a peace conference without making them pre-conditions to even open their mouths and start talking. Don't you lot just love playing the underdog. Peace? You really wouldn't know what to do with it and then the world would really see you in your true colours - unable to govern or be governed, still preaching jihad and hatred. Poor you.
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