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Eyeing Iran, Israel slates missile shield for 2015
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Published: 15.11.10, 17:41
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1. Too Late
Sheik Rattle & Roll ,   USA   (11.15.10)
I always said that Israel wouldn't attack Iran and would try and push the US to do it. The US should of de-fanged those fanatical Ayatollah's when the opportunity was ripe in 2001 when bush labeled them the axis of evil. The American military could of destroyed it's infrastructure and military. Now it's almost too late. We don't have the money to go toe to toe without serious repercussions economically. The ayatollahs are getting more powerful by the day and will start a new cold war that will be more dangerous due to the fact that those suicidal retards don't fear death.
2. Let me summarize
Israel Israeli ,   Tel Aviv   (11.15.10)
In 1993, Rabin embarked on the Oslo adventure because (in his words) Israel was very strong, in no existential danger and could turn the process back. Fast forward 17 years, Israeli experts reveal that thanks to Oslo Israel is in imminent danger of an attack from Lebanon and Gaza that will lead to tens of thousands of civilian deaths in the Tel Aviv area alone. And what is the extreme Left, and now Netanyahu's, conclusion? To surrender Judea and Samaria to open up a very-long indefensible third-front from where spotters will be able to aim rocket fire and Arab ground forces (protected by the hills) can directly attack Israeli targets (exposed on the plains). Without Judea and Samaria, the civilian population will have no safe haven, but will cower in useless shelters. Thanks to the Oslo process, we'll have Warsaw Ghetto in the Middle East.
3. This approach is nonsense and WILL NOT work
Tomer   (11.15.10)
The enemy will simply buy more sophistiocated weapons that can bypass these defences. We need to DETER them. This means telling them in advance that any attack will result in permament expulsion of their population from the attacking territory and the permanent annexationof of that land to Ithe state of Israel.
4. "Israel Israeli" #2: Don't worry, we're not
Robert Haymond ,   Israel/Canada   (11.15.10)
giving up our villages in Shomrun and Judea. Bibi is a master strategist and, at the same time, he is totally aware of the importance of our territories beyond the Green Line just as he is aware of the importance of the Golan. He is not Olmert, not Livni, not Barack and certainly not one of those hysterical "liberals" from Tel Aviv. It's good to read from an Israeli such as yourself who does hail from our most "liberal" city, however. At least non-Tel Avivians realize that there are some like you who possess real heads and not just fuzzy ovals.
5. Missile defense shields don't work for suitcase nukes, but
Rivkah   (11.15.10)
are necessary in this day and age. EMP or Electromagnetic Pulse from a high altitude nuclear blast that puts out the fiberoptics and electricity an power grid, but not a Double Tesla Dome which is what a missile defense shield is. However, HAARP over the horizon electromagnetic EMP can put out a missile defense shield. A few countries have HAARP capabilities such as the USA, Russia, Norway, the EU, Japan, etc. Ha'Shem is going to deal with Iran with a destroying wind. Iran is called Elam in Scriptures and it will be so destroyed that the people will have to migrate to other countries. Iran should back off and shut down their nuclear plants and make peace with the Jews so Ha'Shem does not destroy Iran along with all the other nations that attack the Jewish nation.
6. america is (ab)using israel
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7. the iron dome white elephant wont give us any protection
zionist forever   (11.15.10)
Arrow 3 is an investment but Iron Dome is expensive and useless. Each $30,000 interceptor is designed to kill 1 $10 kassam. Hamas have about 50,000+ kassams to bombard Israel with and Hizbollah probably have at least twice that. The IDF will either have to spend billions and buy hundreds of thousands of interceptors or they will pretty soon run out and the terrorists will keep firing. The thing has absolutely no real battlefield use at all. It was dreamed up in a hurry because Olmert & Peretz wanted to try and limit the political damage done to them after Lebanon by committing money to an Israeli made system thats going to solve the problem. Promise a mirrricle cure and make sure its homemade to drum up a little national pride. So Olmert told Israeli companies here is around $300 million develop something and we got Iron Dome which has got to be the biggest waste of taxpayer money on a military project in a long time and it will provide zero protection.
8. Deterrence
shlomo ,   USA   (11.15.10)
Deterrence is demonstrating to the enemy that even before their first strike lands, the major cities of their host countries will be targeted for total destruction and the launches initiated. For Hamas, the deterrence is simpler, just demonstrate the ability and mindset to use napalm. In total war the survival of the state is the only option, world opinion is not even secondary. What Israel needs is the mindset of General Patton.
9. 2
zionist forever   (11.15.10)
The problem was Israel & the US approached the whole issue from the wrong direction from the start. Bush senior told Israel was time to recognize the PLO and create an arab state, that was the price of his arab coalition in Desert Storm. If this had been thought out properly should have considered two different approaches. 1) Have the US & Europeans pool their money and give King Hussain a huge pay off to take the palestinians and make them all Jordanian citizens. ( money talks in poor countries which Jordan is ) Israel would then negotiate with Jordan as part of a seperate peace treaty and this would be for peace with Jordan and these talks would be to decide how much of Judea & Samaria Israel will return to Jordan to take in the palestinians. It takes Jerusalem out the picture because Jordan has a capital and it would be easier to negotiate a deal with King Hussain than the PLO. It dealt with the so called refugees because they were all going to become Jordanians. Settlements would be an issue easier to discuss with King Hussain and the palestinians would not have had a say in the matter. Also as they don't eat into large parts of Jordan its hard to say settlements were making a Jordan is Palestine hard to achieve. 2) If we had wanted to go down the 2 state route then we should have started off by saying there will be no deadlines these talks take as long as they take. There will be no automatic hand overs of land what we give must be earned. That would have meant a couple of years of trust building before Israel gave away even 1 inch of land. Then as talks progressed we would slowly give more land and the longer we talked the more trust would develop. If there was terror and talks broke down then when the palestinians got their act together again we could start more trust building and giving up of land. It would have been a gradual process based on trust & actions and as it was gradual it would have stopped individual politicians taking to much of a role. That would have hellped deal with the problems of politicial egos especially with the US president who want their legacy of a deal being signed on their watch ( Obama has a huge ego ) which is part the problem. You can't make peace on a deadline but you can through trust building. Oslo was the worst of all worlds
10. Wipe out not gonna happen
jerri i ,   NYC   (11.16.10)
With Barack as defence minister there is no possibility that he would permit a devestating attack on moslem cities because he would never allow high civilian casualties on the moslems because of his fear of what US and Europe would say and the UN would do. The fact that Bibi chose him as defense minister rather than have a fully right wing government shows that his thinking is no different. Barack's insistence on a full missile defence is his hope that it will be enough to protect Israel without a missile /air response by Israel because he would never agree to a scorched earth policy on the cities of Israel's enemies.
11. hermetic seal
alexi   (11.16.10)
No it will not be a hermetic seal but it will help stop some of the rockets. Israel should have its civil defence ready, mass land rockets to fire back in balance of terror and use ground troops in asymmetric maneovers against hezbollah ied kornet warfare. As far as leadership is considered, ehud barak's basically is worthless in land warfare other than very small commando operations. He has no achievement either in Lebanon,w est bank or gaza in thwarting terror armies. His record is zero more recently. The marmora flottila operation attests to it. Ashkenazi was effective in spite of him. Now barak jumps at a US offer of gurantees for planes and vetos for another freeze.He is so gullible and easily fooled that it is shameful for an idf veteran who has seen blood. Clearly, he is like olmert, tired of fighting(olmert never fought nor his sons)tired of winning, just plain tired. I would appoint yaalon in his place, try to get some of kadima in government and kick barak out.
12. This is too late,Hezbollah will attack before then
Chris ,   Cardiff,uk   (11.16.10)
Eould like to add that before this date,The Hezbollah will have Fired Thousands of Rockets into Israel before then in which Iran will be behind..I Can't for the life of me Understand why Israel sits there and do nothing concerning the Hezbollah's Preparation,and Iran's Threat. Last week your ex General Confirmed what I wrote here few month back that Israel will face Thousands of Rockets in a few hours.SORRY,But Israel will not be able to shoot them down and this time,They will use Chemical weapons against You..I Believe that,Unless God Intervenes,Over 10,000 Israelis will die and this war will cause many Israelis to opt out and leave Israel..This is why Israel must Act Now,It already over due,Israel must go on the Attack against Hezbollah before they attack you,Because when they do attack,They will do it when you don't expect it,and you will suffer heavy Casualties..Your Country is too small and you Must hold on to Judea and Samaria,even if it used as a buffer zone.. Iran will eventually come against Israel with Russia,Turkey, including Lybia as their Allies..Ezekiel 38:5
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