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Yaalon: Bibi taken captive by Barak
Attila Somfalvi
Published: 17.11.10, 16:53
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1. Why is it they all have principles....
Janice Cohen ,   ירושלים   (11.17.10)
until they become Prime Minister?
2. yaalon is correct
moron ,   galut   (11.17.10)
barak is a very baf influence and personnally weak-the americans know this and bibi should as well
3. Likud and Yaalon.
David ,   Dimona, Israel   (11.17.10)
The Likud party can only gain more support by getting rid of this crazy extremist called Yaalon.
4. Bibi has no backbone and the US knows it
Nachman   (11.17.10)
He promises the Israeli public no more freeze goes to washington and melts like wax. Does any one wonder why pressure is being mounted against this PM because everyone knows he will budge. The freeze in the first place was a sign that this PM has no backbone. No PM has ever froze building. Now take the fact that the vast public in Israel wants no freeze. in short this PM is being taken as a Bimbo.
5. Ironic that a minister of a mini-pol party and a US Pres
Jake ,   USA   (11.17.10)
are running the country. This has been clear to us for a very long time. It seems the MKs are just waking up from their long nap. What we need to ask is why the PM is doing this. What pressures we don't know about are moving him in that direction.
6. Bibi should definitely resign
Trumpeldor   (11.17.10)
if he feels unable to stand to clinton's pressure .
7. Time to bring down Bibi's Government
BJL ,   usa   (11.17.10)
Bibi is back to his old tricks. Campaign to the right....govern on the left. He is delegitimizing Israels right to exist with this silly freeze. It emboldens the arab claims to the land. His bible scholar Son needs to set Bibi straight! Bibi yimach shemo?
8. Yaalon
Ricardo Macher ,   Karnei Shomron IL   (11.17.10)
Yaalon must be Defense Minister and Barak sent home. Bibi is a pitiful image of what was a strong man, today he is Barak's puppet. Can you imagine how many votes Bibi will get in next elections?
9. Clarification to #3
David ,   Dimona, Israel   (11.17.10)
I want to clarify that I am a Meretz voter and would personally never vote for the Likud.
10. taken captive by barak
mohson   (11.17.10)
Many years ago, Eshkol educated uri avinery on how to negotiate-you don't offer everything up front,, youoffer minimum for max requests and hopefully compromise inthe middle. So offering the PLO everything as Barak, beilin and olmert did is madness and befits a rank amateur negotiator. Rerferring to Bibi, in his first term, he was awkward in military matters. He botched the meshall hit in jordan, he confirmed mofaz over vilnai(who was the better candidate) and appeared sloppy though he is light years better than olmert. Now he hitches israeli security with barak. Lets examine barak's record compared to yaalon. yes, he had some commando exploits especially in the 70s. Lets keep going. The chinese farm debacle when idf soldiers were mowed down, the training accident in Israel, his lead o fsoldedirs in lebanon who got mowed down in an ambuse, the cancellation of the raid against saddam hussein, the haphazard withdrawal from lebanon, his singular failure to respond to west bank terror especially the lynching of 2 idf soldiiers in ramallah or rockets from hamas in gaza, his call for early ceasefire just as idf was unleashing cast lead as if barak was afraid of casualties(like olmert who was petrified of one drop of blood), and finally his testimony before turkel where he rambled on with wordy answers without coming to the point. In court we call this person a bs artist. Especially who gave the paintball order which so far, no one will answer. That bibi would follow barak given his record, shows that bibi is naiive. if I were PM, I would have given barak yaalon's portfolio and named yaalon minister of defence. if bibi carries through with the 90 day freeze extension, likud will get rid of him and bibi will be finished. And after more israeli blood flows, lieberman will be the new PM. I don't trust abbas, and I don't trust barak. Contrast this with Yaalons work against west bank terror where he essentially knocked most of it out and removed some of the hamas leadership. First I would not follow barak, as heis a lousy theatre general . All he does is offer concessions which bring rockets and eath in return. Ask one million israelis in the south who they prefer-barak or yaalon. They would spit at barak for his more current cowardice.
11. Dump Netanyahu
Marcel ,   Florida   (11.17.10)
It's good to see someone in Israel stand up against the poodle and tug on his leash. The lap dog who serves a FAILED foreign agenda is not fit to lead Israel He serves his Washington Pims first and foremost. He fooled you long enough with his empty speeches filled with cunning lies,hasn't he ?
12. Down with Bibi!
Yoni ,   Shomron   (11.17.10)
Go, Boogy, go!
13. Chances of Change?
Rachel ,   US   (11.17.10)
What are the chances that Bibi could be replaced by another Likudnik and who would that be?
14. Gen. Yaalon is right.
Steve Klein   (11.17.10)
Whether a man is a statesman or an officer, it is a fundamental obligation to take a moral stance even though it means going against one's superior. If private dissent does not have any effect, then it is imperative to take one's (case or) dissent to the public. Most understand, "I was following orders" is not justifiable when the order or the policy is wrong. Those who are "team players" at the expense of conscience and right are more often than not SELL-outs.
15. yaalon-baruch hashem
a ash ,   tel aviv   (11.17.10)
thank gd we have him in the government and as a leader - he knows the truth and is not afraid to speak and not corrupt like shas that will sell out everything for money
16. Bibi is utterly unfit to lead Likud and Israel.
Chaim ,   Israel   (11.17.10)
Neither Yaalon nor anyone else should be surprised at Bibi's latest betrayal of Likud and the vast majority of Israeli voters. Bibi's political career is marked by such betrayals. Why does Likud tolerate Bibi? Bibi lacks the courage to stand up for Israel. Moreover, he can't win elections. In the last election, Bibi blew a huge lead over Kadima to lose to it. Bibi was more concerned over defeating Feiglin than Kadima. In the previous election, Bibi took Likud from 48 seat Knesset dominance to 12 seat rump party status. Enough is enough! It's time to replace Bibi. Bibi is utterly unfit to lead Likud and Israel.
17. Is Bibi more afraid of Barak or Barack?
Raymond in DC ,   Washington, USA   (11.17.10)
Netanyahu defers to Barak far more than he should. Not just because Barak represents the rump Labor Party, but because Barak has made bad decisions. But the folks in Washington like him, treating him as if he were the Foreign Minister, even as their advocate in Jerusalem. And obviously Bibi doesn't want Labor to bolt the Coalition. But Netanyahu still has the same lack of resolve when dealing with demands from Washington as he once did, when in the words of one acquaintance in a position to know, he couldn't even stand up to Madeline Albright. The merit in having Yaalon and the Likud rebels is that they can stiffen Bibi's spine, so he can turn to Washinton and say "There's no support for these proposals." But it's almost like he feels more comfortable yielding under pressure.
18. The 10 "free" jets come ONLY if all peace agreements are
Bunnie Meyer ,   Los Angeles, CA USA   (11.17.10)
signed in a year and abbas will never sign an agreement where Jerusalem does not return to terrorist hands. Give in to obumma and you give up Jerusalem to terrorist scum. Do you want to say goodbye to the Kotel? I don't.
19. Intra Fighting is Depressing
dAV lEV ,   Burbank.CAUSA   (11.17.10)
The real question is, does Israel have any credibiity anymore, anywhere in the world/. McCrystal was forced to resign..when he contradicted his boss in public. Dennis Blair, former NIA, was fired by Obama, even though very talented. Israel's govt is all perplexed, and frankly, disloyal. Whether the DPM, or FMs (Livni Lieberman), if they are at odds on key issues, then resign, and run for political office. Like it or not Bibi is the P.M.. The freeze begs the question. Does Israe;/ the PA really want one? 3 months in the 100yr conflict and 17 since Olso is insignificant. This is all kinderspiel. Go into the talks..(if the Pales join) and see what happens. The freeze can ALWAYS be lifted. But Israel's survval is tenuous. w/o USA support. Already Abbas has teh plenet on his side at the UN..will Israel call up its reserves to fight 180 countries? My guess, NO.
20. Netanyahu capitulated?
Shalom ,   U.S.A.   (11.17.10)
He dididn't, he's just an underhanded, deceitful person who cares only about his poltical career. It's time for the Likud to get rid of his "leadership"! He didn't, he's just an underhanded, deceitful person, who only cares about his political career. It's time for the Likud to get rid of his "leadership"!
21. PM should listen to sound advice
Brod ,   USA   (11.17.10)
The PM should learn from the mistakes made by Barak and Sharon in the past and NOT repeat them. He should also stay away from meeting with Obama or Hillary. He should only send his Ambassador to meet with those officials. Why expose yourself to their one-way lecture, indoctrination, and manipulations? He should also not allow Barak to be meeting with and be manipulated by them to crusade their latent agenda on Israel which is detrimental to Israel's national interests. Netanyahu will do well by listening to his key Associates and Advisors like General Ya'alon, Shalom, Begin and others.
22. BIBi is doing a great service to Israel
Netanyahu   (11.17.10)
by slowly causing the Knesset to wean power away from the PM of Israel. As far as I can tell, there is no down side to such a plan. Hopefully the position of PM will become as useless as that of President in Israel, a figurehead and nothing more.
23. Bibi Forever
Seal ,   london UK   (11.17.10)
Bibi is not as stupid as everyone makes out. Perhaps he understands the Americans better than anyone else. For those who want a strong Israel, we have ot reverse the damage done by rabin, Peres and Barak, and Olmert. By getting American consent for our sovereignty over Jerusalem, we can move forward. If we can build in E. Jerusalem, during the 3 months period, it is worht a final freeze,a nd we get stealth F35s on top of it!
24. Exactly what Obama wants
Zev ,   Israel   (11.17.10)
to bring down Bibi and replace him with Zipi. And Bibi is falling for it.
25. Barak is a proven fool
RAYS ,   USA   (11.17.10)
Good for Yaalon. Barak has led Israel into disater after disaster. His paniced withdrawal from South Lebanon gave us a powerful enemy on the border AND helped destroy what allies we had left in Lebanon. HE IS A WALKING MENACE POLITICALLY.
26. bibi is fit but lacks spine
alexi   (11.17.10)
After peres, barak and olmert, bibi is better but he suffers from exaggerated views of himself. At most, he was a good ambassador to the UN, so if someone gives him instructions, he knows how to talk. That is what they said of barak, that is, if you give him a commando role on a small scale, he is good. But if you put him in charge of a major army manoeuver, he is quite poor and he has demonstrated failure after failure. Cast lead succeeded primarily because of ashkenazi and gallant and it had little to do with barak who actually tried to stop it after a few days. When bibi is given responsibiliites greater than a press or media officer, it is too much for him. He panics and tries to please everyone like he does with clinton. He's not a bad person. His tolerance however does not allow him to stick to his guns.Never should he have run for the PM job. Its too much for him. Well then, who can do it well? We see that barak, peres and olmert could not negotiate a good tough bargain and were lousy leaders. Sharon was not bad, decisive, could adjust strategy but he was out of breath and in legal trouble. So he took ehud olmert's advice to sway dovish mazuzz so that he would not indict him. And that happened when he withdrew from gaza unilaterally. Landau is steely, so is lieberman who speaks the truth though he still has some of putin's scheming in his bones, ayalon is not bad and has improved under lieberman, gillerman is a tough realist, moshe kedar defends israel before the arab crowd very well,Rafael Sadi has defended israel and opposed erdogan in the turkish press, menchem begin,shamir and ben gurion were strong nationalists who were good strong leaders. Iisraelis should not make the mistake of jumping to livni or mofaz for more of olmert's policies. They have to pick a tough nationalist with some fell for the military and geography. Above all, he or she should not fear blood or casualties like olmert who was petrified or then you get into the shalit problem. Finally, Israelis should be wary of some fancy journalist candidate with all kinds of theories which will likely crash against arab rocks.
27. to#3
Jennie ,   Us/Israel   (11.17.10)
The Israeli Government and the people of Israel can only Gain politically & internally around the world and at home, by clearing Ehud Barak from any political or decision making power on behalf of Israel. There is something very wrong with this guy...
28. Good for Yaalon. Yaalon+Lieberman+Feiglin in my opinion
Jae ,   Israel   (11.17.10)
+Caroline Glick, plus more sephardim and Ethipians. I want sephardim and ethipian Jews in the top spots of government. Now please!
29. Barak violates Israeli Law&Human Rights
sam ,   USA   (11.17.10)
30. I Am A Proud Prudent Zionist
Dav Lev ,   Burbank. CAUSA   (11.17.10)
Lets be honest everyone, Israel is a dysfunctional society, GDP notwithstanding. Bibi is your P.M. If the country doesnt like him, bring down the govt, Then what..labor has the votes and clout..and Livni is waiting to be P.M. Bibi is not perfect..but who is in this crazy environment? The USA dictates folks, not yeshiva boys and girls..the religious parties, or antiquated rabbis. The reality: Israel needs those 55 F-35s, plus..more than it needs unwise advice, Likud protests, and irrational thinking. Israel is NOT Russia, or China..it is a miniscule country..with no leverage or clout. US Jews are worthless and are scared of Israeli policies. J St is gaining strength. Young Jewsare abandoning Israel. Bibi is doing okay, with the cards dealt. To Israel: time is against you. Iran's nukes will be aimed at your cities. Get with it. You need US.
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