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Is world waking up?
Manfred Gerstenfeld
Published: 18.11.10, 18:29
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1. Get the UN to explain it's disgusting actions.
Lee ,   Manchester UK   (11.18.10)
if that is the only thing that comes out of this - it will be worth it's weight in gold.
2. article title?
eitan ,   austin, usa   (11.18.10)
a very good article, but how does it relate to its title? the fact that one or two leaders in canada are doing the right thing is a far cry from 'the world waking up.'
3. Israel does not make mistakes
SAM ,   ME   (11.18.10)
4. I wish that Israelis just say it
SAM ,   ME   (11.18.10)
we want the whole land just say it. Be honest with your self and the world. just say we do not want peace we want all of palestine and we want to kick the palestinians out? Why on earth wouldn't you stop building settlements in the West Bank
5. 4 settlements needed to stop rocket fire on ben gurion port
siege of vienna 1683   (11.18.10)
6. Answer
Israel Israeli ,   Tel Aviv   (11.18.10)
The answer to Gerstenfeld's question is a resounding no. The world does not care about antisemitism. Each country will let its Islamists and Leftists hunt their Jews until they are driven out or dead, and then will say they feel bad about it. The only place the Jews can live safely is in their homeland with defensible borders.
7. Poor Sam
Smith   (11.18.10)
Why are you so obsess by a little piece of Jewish land? And by the way the jewish did not say that arabs do not have the right to be in Isreal. Do you want to talk about tolerence? Before, in the holy temple, the most holy site in judaism, there was a place for non-jews. Where is the place for non- muslims at the Mecca?
8. Hey Sam
Smith   (11.18.10)
Be honest. Tell that the arabs do not want peace and to submit jews to their islmamic law. They stole jewish holy sites and jewish land. Be honest dude and admit you are a thief.
9. Western World should end U.N. funding.
Chaim ,   Israel   (11.19.10)
Imagine how much good could be done with the billions of dollars misuses annually, by the Western World, to fund the destructive, racist U.N. Imagine how many loans could be made to Third World farmers and businesspeople to feed the people and build their economies. Imagine how much badly needed medicine could be provided to the desperate. Imagine how much goodwill could be built up through these deeds. The Western World should end U.N. funding. In America, where the U.N. is widely despised, defunding the U.N. would make a great wedge issue for the Republican Party.
11. Sam @ 4, what are you talking about. Even if Israel will get
leo ,   usa   (11.19.10)
"whole land" it still will be much smaller than Mane. BTW, the questions is not what you want, but what you can get and Israel is willing to share while Arabs are not.
12. smith
Birdi ,   Israel   (11.19.10)
be a good lad & go take your meds.
13. To Edithann #10: Can I be honest with you…
Tom W. ,   Windsor, Canada   (11.19.10)
The information you read is hate literature-period! I’m Jewish, I know there are many anti-Semitic websites that post all sorts of crap and back it up with links to fabricated quotes from the Talmud; that’s exactly where you got your so-called facts! Anytime an anti-Semite starts quoting the Talmud to justify his/her hate, I say this—why don’t you research the real Jewish Talmud? The frightening historical facts of Jew haters is you know an anti-Semite has gone too far when he/she spends his/her free time researching and reading lots of propaganda in order to justify his/her hate of the Jews! So listen up all you Edithann’s of the world; you’re sick! Jewish conspiracies have been around long before any of us were born, they were devised to explain away: why water wells became undrinkable, the reason for the plague, why children were missing or were killed, etc. As well, until the late 19th century, Christian Europe followed the Vatican decree that forbade Christians to loan money with interest. Also by Vatican decree, Jews were forbidden to practice most trades and crafts, the Vatican looked upon the Jews as cursed and rejected people of G-d. As a result of the Vatican actions some Jews went into money lending in order to just survive, this was the reason behind all the hatred of Jews regarding money and how all these Jewish banker conspiracy theories got launched. So since the Middle Ages, Christian Europe grew up on hating the Jews regarding money issues and the Monarchies had the perfect scapegoat to blame for economic woes. Don’t get me started…I know the history behind all the Jewish conspiracies, including the most recent ones like the one that started because a group of Jewish doctors flew in to Haiti to help victims of the earthquake. From this trip, a conspiracy theory got started that these Jewish doctors were ‘harvesting organs’! I could write an encyclopaedia of the origins of blood libels and Jewish conspiracies but people like you believe all this crap! And to add insult to injury, you have the nerve to post this crap back to us in an on-line Israeli newspaper in order to justify your hatred of Jews —you’re sick! Drop dead!!!
14. I knew you were an anti-semite, Edithann,
Robert Haymond ,   Israel/Canada   (11.19.10)
from previous comments but your reference to Veterans Today was an indescribably filthy and ugly rant that only the most miserable people like you could put both as a source of information. But I thank you for reminding us (Readers) what a piece of garbage you and your kind represent. It only makes me more committed to my own people.
15. Neither Israel nor Dar al-Islam are ideal states
Would-be-scholar ,   Berlin, Germany   (11.19.10)
and neither is the west, either... Westerners are already fearful to study middle-eastern studies in Europe, out of fear of eventually being murdered by a Muslim faithfully practicing his Islamic religion against an infidel who pointed out flaws in his religion's foundation. It seems that the Hebrew University is about the only place one can critically study Islam and Arabism in safety.
16. no.10
hebrew prophet ,   israel   (11.19.10)
What are you carrying on about Edithan when you say it,s Talmudic law to hate and take advantage of all others ,are you a Rabbi ,a Talmudic scholar at a religious Yeshiva in Jerusalem or Tel-Aviv ,do you attend Friday night (Shabbos) services at a Jewish shul(synagog ue) are you a Muslim prophet ,Imam,religious leader or what as you sound like just another Palestinian nutcase who propagandises here but with no substance or clarity to your childish rantings?
17. No.10 It's not wrong to hate people like yourself
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18. #10 If you can't beat em, hate em.
Noodles ,   Coney Island   (11.19.10)
19. Strange caption
m   (11.19.10)
Not only the world doesn't wake up to antisemitism, it is actually legal and chique to be an antisemite. In our multicultural world where nobody can say anything against anyone the Jews have become the outlet for hate. Also the only ones standing for Israel are the Conservatives, be they American or Canadian, whatever Ignatieff tells the microphone is forgotten in actions.
20. Edithann is just here to spout hatred. Don't bother
Israelit ,   Israel   (11.19.10)
to reply to her posts. She's not worth the airtime.
21. All Posters, Edithann is just another Vitriolic Hatemonger
Israelit ,   Israel   (11.19.10)
Ignore her. She's just another nutcase off her meds.
23. For #s 13-17; Intellectual dishonesty rules!!!.
Mikesailor ,   Miami, FL   (11.19.10)
I think all of you, and the writer, are missing the point. Is the problem antisemitism or anti-zionism? If you conflate the two concepts, you wind up with incoherent rants such as you have exhibited. And the situation is getting worse. How many of you condemned the recent rant of Rabbi Ovadia Yusef that 'goys' only exist to serve Jews? Anyone? And the 'rabbi' is the spiritual head of the Shas party. If a Western European country had a political leader who said all Jews were donkeys and existed ony to serve goys (or Germans etc.) you would all take this as evidence of antisemitism. And you would be right. So, why can't you see the problem you have created on your own? The Torah, especially Leviticus and Joshua, advocate genocide against the 'other' without regard to innocents. Does that make it right? Disregard of international law and obligations, or even domestic court rulings, when it conflicts with a nationalistic-religious rabbinical ruling is fine with you as long as it leaves Jews in a 'favored' position? Is 'hatred' or disregard of the rights of the 'other' to be applauded? Funny how neither yourselves, nor the writer, expounds on this. Instead you fall back on your rants about antisemitism. As if that really matters anymore.
24. Book of wiliness
Raphael ,   Netanya   (11.19.10)
Few western leaders ever heard about this manual written 100 years before Machiavel's "the Prince", summing up the receipes of islamic strategy. Muslims are proceeding undercover, using antisemitism and corruption to lure willful christian renegades, exactly like 1400 years ago. History teaches that Jews are only appetizers: once Jews are eliminated, their persecutors quickly prey on their former suckers.
25. Why am I not surprised by the French-Canadians?
Tahl ,   Ashdod   (11.19.10)
As a demographic group, these lot have proven to be the worst antisemites in North America.
26. Try doing a little current research, "MikeSailor":"
Robert Haymond ,   Israel/Canada   (11.19.10)
Did you actually bother to check out the "Veteran's Today" website, Mike, the one referenced by EdithAnn? After you do (if you're not too lazy) report back what you think of it. Until then, your intellectual laziness gains you no credibility.
27. I keep mulling it over and I am shocked
Robert Haymond ,   Israel/Canada   (11.19.10)
that Ynet has allowed EdithAnn the space to reference such an ugly website as Veteran's Today, an article which articulates how Jews and Nazis were in cahoots preceding and during WWII. How can Ynet sponsor such incredible renderings? I thought free speech ended with the publication of hate literature. When an Israeli website publishes it (I thought only Haaretz in Israel and Maan in the neighbouring Westbank did that) then I know that the Ynet editors refuse to pay attention and are sabotaging its readership.
28. Harper is not a symbol of the world
Leon ,   Ottawa Canada   (11.20.10)
Harper is more loyal to Zionism and Israel than he is to Canada. When a UN Canadian soldier was killed by an Israeli bomb, Harper said nothing and later criticized the UN for having our soldier there. When eight Canadians were killed in Lebanon by an Israeli airstrike; Harper said nothing. Harper loves Israel and Israel loves Harper. Please Israel, take him.
29. Re #22 & #23: My message to all readers & Ynetnews
Tom W. ,   Windsor, Canada   (11.20.10)
After putting in a productive day, I was just curious to see the comments that were made after mine #13, which I posted this morning. And to my horror Ynetnews posted comments from people who fit the textbook example of a sociopath! Edithann and Mikesailor writing styles throw glib insults towards Jews based upon their Bizarro World reality, where lies are the truth and vice versa. Edithann uses the word whine and Mikesailor uses the word rant to put down Jews who use the truth against them. A sociopath sees his victims defending themselves as pathetic because the sociopath feels he has the righteous truth on his side while his victims are the ones that are spewing out the lies. Once that line is breached, you walk away because you cannot logically converse with a sociopath and if you try, the sociopath will continue in his remorseless attack on you! He feels no guilt, there is a lack of insight in his mindset regarding his words / actions, he is unable to learn from negative experiences (so he just repeats the same pattern over & over again), he is deceitful, there is an underlying nature of pathological lying and he refuses to take responsibility for himself—thus he ends up blaming the victim. Edithann and Mikesailor both blame Jews in order to justify why they hate us, it’s no different than a man who habitually physically abuses his girlfriend or wife and blames the victim for his actions! Ynetnews, I’m mad as hell with your editorial choices of giving voice to sociopaths! Nowhere in normal society have countries allowed the ravings of sociopaths to be heard in a free press because an anti-social mindset is not conducive towards the sharing of opinions. The sociopath is shunned and belittled by the majority of people so the angry sociopath traditionally turned to printing propaganda in order to publish his point of view. But now with the Internet, a solitary sociopath very quickly links up with other like-minded people who share his psychological profile and together they form a movement of hate, which only builds up their egos. Before you know it, these hateful people begin to slowly but steady influence the minds of uninformed vulnerable young people into believing that this propaganda is the truth. This is known as people who have drunk from the Kool-Aid; that marks the major turning point towards the downward spiral of a society. So Ynetnews, why are you publishing the opinions of sociopaths?
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