well seeing as the ICJ deals with disputes between states (usually border or sovereignty disputes) and not with criminal matters, i think if you managed to "get ICJ charges" you would be the first person in history to do so, as well as violating the mandate of the court. perhaps before you give your "in-depth" analysis of a report that is not meant as conclusive evidence, but a supporting document to potential court proceedings, you should at least learn the difference between the ICC and the ICJ.

How about developing a "www.HamasTerror" website with similar details? A website devoted to listing the (non classified) material available that will show the Palestiophiles & other terror devotees the truth, such as: "Muhamed Ibn Fadeekha, 24, born 31/2/1986, Dir al Balach. Joined Hamas youth age 8 (photo of kid with explosive belt). Used as arms courier by ABC cell in North Gaza until age 15. Left UNWRA school after 4th grade. Only other education is radical Islam in 123 Mosque. First known kill at age 14, of a rival gang member in XYZ refugee camp. Involved in planting explosives adjacent to Kerem Shalom Crossing 32/13/2001, & numerous rocket launchings. Moved to Islamic Jihad in 2004 after offer of more Iranian money & a percentage of tunnel income". "Current position: 2nd in command of local Islamic Jihad cell. Participated in throwing Fatah members off buildings in 2007 (picture/video link)". "Younger brother of Sharmuta Ibn Fadeekha (picture), member of XYZ cell, known for developing the protective method of grabbing children off the street & holding them in his car as mobile shields. Renowned for his brutality in stamping out excessive wedding celebration music". And so on... Some profiles will need to be enclosed in black frames ("Killed by drone missile attack xx/yy/2009 while transporting explosives in ambulance"), but generally, a list & personal profile of a few thousand terrorists, together with their details & sordid activities. No need to disclose classified material, or that they are being observed (or not). Just lay out the information for comparison; to let them know that "The long arm" can "Tap them on the shoulder" when desired; & to let the Eurotrash et al who think that these scum are noble "freedom fighters", playing in a video game, are really hate filled psychopaths, destructive to their own people, & who live off extortion, theft, & Iranian donations toward terror. The potential permutations are endless!

the same crew. website hosted in london but maybe originating from a southern israeli university? just in case you think there are never repercussions etc.. you know what to do.

The British Mandate for Palestine from the League of Nations was to facilitate a homeland for the Jewish People...you're the ones who criminally neglected to do so. Michael, you Brits reneged on this obligation and consequently, have a large part to answer for in today's conflict. I guess prostituting yourselves for Arab oil was more important than your honour. There's no doubt in my mind that you needed to be eased out. Better keep your trap shut.......

These are not war criminals. These are heroes. Yasher koach!

Galant lobbied against an investigation of Col. Ilan Malka, the IDF commander who approved the airstrike that killed 21 members of the al-Samouni clan during Cast Lead. Galant's view was ignored as the military prosecutor general opened an investigation of the incident which was highlighted by the Goldstone Report as a possible serious breach of international law. Ilan Malka is not on the list. no-one of those 200, except Ashkenazi, fought in the 1973 war

"the ICJ deals with disputes between states" Last I checked, there is not, nor ever was, a State called "Palestine" so any accusations of "war crimes" against Israelis is pretty much pointless. Finally, my remark on the Goldstone report was directed towards those, you included, who use it as "proof" of Israel's guilt and infact it holds no factual evidence at all, being based mostly on Hamas testimony, as "palestinians" already admitted. On one hand you use the report as "proof of Israel's guilt", but on the other hand (as in your post) you claim it is just "a supportive document". Apparently, you can't even come to terms with reality in your own mind, let alone what's on the global stage.

then spend the time reading a dictionary which defines terrorism as an act of violence against CIVILIANS to exact a political outcome. That dispels your "Jewish terrorist" claim but certainly supports the "Arab terrorist" claims.

and list every flotilla member, including political affiliation, past offenses, addresses, etc, and call it "FlotillaWarCriminals.org" Then we can build one of ISM members Then another of B'stelem. Peace Now, and ACRI members Then go after Jstreet, the options are endless

Funny how you so conveniently avoided the very uncomfortable point I raised, regarding Hamas operatives firing from schools and cowardly hiding behind human shields. But then again I cannot blame you, since clearly you have nothing to respond to this, and you know I got you pounded badly here. And do you really want to examine which side of the two - IDF or Hamas - engaged in indiscriminate fire during Cast Lead? Of course, I didn't think so.

The soldiers obviously aren't too phased by this and "5000" visitors got the privilege of seeing good looking Israeli soldiers who put their lives on the line for their country. Your friend Allister (Ali) of Scotland noted you're on Facebook. Be a good boy and post a link to your photo and personal details so we can include you on the Useless Idiot List and have a good laugh at your expense.

Well using your definition of terrorism it means that action by Hamas against Israeli military is not terrorism but the actions of Israeli settlers stealing & destroying Palestinian houses & the ethnic cleansing involved, not to mention murder , are involved in terrorism. I would agree with you on that. Reality is many British civilians were victims to Jewish terrorism in the 1940's at exactly the same time Britain was involved in fighting Nazis. Indeed at least 3 Israeli PMs have been involved in terrorism the last being Sharon. Israel is a state founded & maintained by terrorism

i didnt take a stance on the issue, merely on your ignorance. your quick switch to defence speaks volumes. i couldnt care less if all the israelis killed all of the palestinians or vice versa. i didnt make reference to any guilt on any party (so dont put any quotation marks around words that i didnt write) nor that there were even crimes committed. it simply irks me when internet lawyers like yourself jump on their keyboard and try to speak from authority, when you would actually have a better understanding of the law if you had bothered to read even the wiki entry on all this. plus, on the report, i seem to remember that israel refused to give testimony. israel didnt so they could complain about the report being one sided later on. a good move actually. smart. now people like you can put on their self-righteous superhero cape. stick to topics that suit your aptitudes, this is not one of them.

the point on the ICJ was that you dont know the difference between the international criminal court and the international court of justice, not that palestine is or is not a state. the international criminal court has its own mechanisms for accepting complaints on behalf of states, that if you had actually paid attention at least to the news in the last year, you would have known this.

maybe because those were collected from non-official files OR because official files frequently break the law of "in uniform".

The Treaty of Lausanne (1923), which replaced the Treaty of Sèvres, reflected an understanding that Palestine was a state. The Ottoman Arab territories were characterized as states. Article 30 of the Treaty of Lausanne required Palestine to treat Ottoman nationals inhabiting Palestine as nationals of Palestine. Article 30, like the comparable provision of the Treaty of Sèvres, referred to the Ottoman Arab territories as “states” being detached from the Ottoman Empire. The understanding that Palestine was a state was shared by the governments of the interwar period. Jan Smuts, the member of Britain’s Imperial War Cabinet who wrote the outline for the League Covenant, including a provision on mandates, referred in his plan for the Covenant to the mandates as “not completely independent states.” Sir Herbert Samuel, Britain’s High Commissioner in Palestine, referred to Palestine as a state. So too did Norman Bentwich, Palestine’s Attorney General. The Chair of the Permanent Mandates Commission, Pierre Orts, called Palestine a state.

Michael, the only "tiny" problem with your anonymous online ranting is the transaprent fact that eaxh and every pretended "facts" of yours is pure fiction and outright tragic LIES. Such hate-filled rants may go well in the Guardian, but not outside the lunatic asylum of the far-left British antisemitic press. Proofs and evidence, dear Michael boy. Proofs and evidence and a bit less irrational sloganeering!

So you are claiming that Begin was not the leader of the terrorist gang Irgun, or that Ben-Gurion didn't direct a terrorist "war" from the shadows, or that Sharon wasn't responsible for the massacres of some 2-3,000 civilians at the Sabra and Shatilla refugee camps? I regret to advise you that the days of people like you trying to re-write history are long gone. As for the pathetic "anti-semitic" accusation, well bearing in mind only around 15% of Jews in Israel are semitic it has no meaning. Besides the term is beginning to mean someone who is against racism, ethnic cleansing & genocide Gabor my lad

1. Publish a list of all known terrorists residing in the West Bank, Gaza and Israel. Include all personal information, including personal identity numbers and photographs. 2. Publish a list of all known foreign anarchists currently fomenting trouble in Israel, Judea, Samaria and Gaza. Include all personal information, including personal identity numbers and photographs. 3. Publish a list of all known citizens of Israel who aid and abet terrorists and foreign anarchists. Include all personal information, including personal identity numbers and photographs. 4. Make all these lists available to Interpol, MI6, the CIA and all Departments of State of the United States, all member states of the European Union and pretty much anyone else you may choose to include in the distribution. 5. Sit back and watch the fun unfold as these terrorists, anarchists and traitors are held without being charged for 12 to 24 hours at assorted airports, train terminals and central bus stations. 6. Chortle with glee as all these terrorists, anarchists and traitors have to explain WHY their picture and identification information rang ALL sorts of bells throughout the international security community. 7. Laugh uncontrollably as all these terrorists, anarchists and traitors are prevented from entering a whole host of countries and, in many, are held in jail for several weeks (months? years?). 8. Rub your hands with sheer delight as these terrorists, anarchists and traitors are (i) denied mortgage applications; (ii) denied entrance to universities and graduate schools; and (iii) have their bank accounts appropriated and frozen. 9. Roll on the floor with laughter as these assorted terrorists, anarchists and traitors lose their passports. Do you think two can't play this game? What do you want to bet Israel can play it far better? I've just told you how it will unfold. To the smug idiots who endangered the lives of these brave, heroic Israeli soldiers: Go ahead. Publish another website. If you dare. Wait and see how much you like being homeless and unemployable. See how sleeping on a park bench jives with your idea of "living." Think it cannot happen? Think it won’t? Think again.

The number of MPs opposing the British government’s plans to restrict the arrest of Israeli leaders for alleged war crimes has risen to more than 100. http://s242816488.onlinehome.us/criminals/ http://www.redress.cc/palestine/redress20101119

Your outright falsification of HISTORY, your implicit glorification of Britain's highly disgusting modus operandi from 1918-48, its explicit crimes as an imperialist utetrly inhuman colonial power - its without the shadow of a doubt well -deserved DEFEAT by a bunch of survivors from the Nazi-lagers, your fantastic words of "genocide", "ethnic cleansing", "terrorism" - words of which you have absolutely no concept of factual and definition-close understanding - make your lines (text) utterly tendentious, the currency of a sloganeering biased one-sided propagandist that is not amusing one bit. Your ratial inferences vis-á-vis Israel's Jews and your basic, most basic ignorance is so transparent that whetehr you deny or not (the former) makes you a wretched Jew-hater in actuality. No worry, you are just one of many millions in England.

You forgot the twenty years of sending suicide bombers to kill civilians in Israel and eight years of enduring daily missile barrages fired into civilian areas from Gaza. As to heroes -- how do you feel about those brave Allied pilots who carpet bombed Germany into smithereens? Killing a little over 2 million civilians in the process, I might add. How about those brave American pilots that fire-bombed Tokyo into complete destruction, with losses in excess of one million civilians. How proud are you of the two bombs dropped by the Americans on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, respectively, that killed half a million people on impact and at least as many more from radiation sickness? Real feel-good moment for you, eh? What about all those civilian deaths in Kosovo, thanks to NATO bombing runs? Oh, and let's not forget the tens of thousands of civilians that have perished in Afghanistan and Iraq thanks to those brave and heroic NATO servicemen. Finally, allow me to explain something to you, by way of an example even a dimwitted individual such as yourself can grasp. The law looks to intent, not efficacy. Think of it this way: if you were to obtain a loaded gun, point it at someone and pull the trigger -- but the gun jams -- do you think the law cares that the gun jammed? Do you think the police and the district attorney will simply shrug their shoulders and say "no one hurt; no harm, no foul; everybody can just go home?" They won't. Trust me. Your intended victim will go home; you, on the other hand, are looking at 30 years in the penitentiary for attempted murder. In some American states, you are going away for life. Like I said -- intent over efficacy. Who cares how effective or ineffective the weaponry used by terrorists is? It has nothing to do with intent -- and intent is made clear by virtue of firing missiles into Israel. Moreover, do you have any clue as to how many innocent civilians have perished when suicide bombers detonated their "home-made" explosives? You are a perfect fool.

The British Mandate of Palestine was earmarked for the Jews...In those days it included today's Jordan....so if it was a 'state'...it was for us. In those days a 'Palestinian' refered to a Jew. Thanks for that snippet, observer The Brits (and this is also directed to the Pallywood victim in Oxford) reneged on that which was agreed in the Treaty of San Remo. If the Brits had done the right thing from the start there wouldn't have been a refugee problem as Arabs and Jews were working together for their respective chunks of Ottoman Empire from Britain and France... By promising Palestine to both Jews and Arabs, the two-faced British have a large part in creating this mess. That's something Michael in Oxford fails to address....because honour doesn't exist in his lexicon With an honourable Britain, there wouldn't have been need for the Stern Gang, Lehi etc, As for Sharon being guilty for Sabra and Shatilla...tosh...the Phalangists had had it up to their eye-balls with the PLO..See what Brigitte Gabriel has to say about their behaviour in Lebanon.

While in the Treaty of Lausanne (1923) and the former one "observer" refers to, both NEVER mention Palestine, not even once. While they refer to areas of the Ottoman empire as states within a certain context. For Instance the "State of Egypt" is mentioned in the treaty while Palestine is never mentioned as I said earlier. In addition the treaty it replaced had nothing to do with Palestine as a state or anything else. observer remarks and I quote: "The understanding that Palestine was a state was shared by the governments of the interwar period" This is completely false which is why he does not back it up with specific links. Because it simply is not true. "observer" hopes to put out a bunch of official sounding information, relying on the fact that most of us simply don't have the time to do the research and verify his findings. As we have seen his first reference is False, the Treaty Of Lausanne (1923), never mentioned Palestine even once in the document, one that had over 143 articles. The one "observer" refers to "article 30" is a generic article that uses the term "states" when talking about some of the former areas of the Ottoman Empire prior to WW1. Bottom Line: "observer" is desperate, using Arab sources for his arguments. Sadly for him, and fortunate for us, those sources are famous, or infamous, for what's called "Lies through Omission". Put simply they tell half the story, by taking quotes out of context to alter their meaning, and make it appear the quote said something (usually that suits their political agenda) that was NOT intended by the author of that quote. There really are many examples of this technique used by the Arabs.

ARTICLE 95. ....The Mandatory will be responsible for putting into effect the declaration originally made on November 2, 1917, by the British Government, and adopted by the other Allied Powers, in favour of the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country. ARTICLE 129. Jews of other than Turkish nationality who are habitually resident, on the coming into force of the present Treaty, within the boundaries of Palestine, as determined in accordance with Article 95 will ipso facto become citizens of Palestine to the exclusion of any other nationality. ^^For Jews to become citizens of Palestine had to be; non-Turkish, habitually resident in Palestine (at that time), on the condition that there was no trespassing on the rights of non-Jews in Palestine, or trespassing on rights of Jews IN any OTHER country. Those conditions were NOT fulfilled in the overwhelming majority of cases.

Article 95 was adopted from the Balfour declaration, along with couple of other points. But what is your point? Palestine Mandate under British rule had clear and defined borders, so what. That doesn't make it a state. Palestine never existed as a country, there never was an Arab people called Palestinians which is the point of this conversation. You must remember as late as 1967 in UN Resolution 242 the term Palestinian did NOT exist. That is why they termed the Arabs "refugees" not Palestinians. After all it was explained in a Dutch Newspaper: "one of the most candid admissions ever made, Zuhair Muhsin, little known leader of the PLO splinter gang known as “Al Sa’iqa” Stated this: "March 31, 1977 interview with the Dutch newspaper Trouw: " The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct Palestinian people to oppose Zionism. For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan." I think that is pretty clear as to the motivation for the invention we speak of and you seek to falsely prove. Indeed, there is no such a thing like a Palestinian people, or a Palestinian culture, or a Palestinian language, or a Palestinian history. There has never been any Palestinian state, neither any Palestinian archaeological find nor coinage. Just to name a few things historians and archeologist look for. Or Here: "There has never been a land known as Palestine governed by Palestinians. Palestinians are Arabs, indistinguishable from Jordanians (another recent invention), Syrians, Iraqis, etc. Keep in mind that the Arabs control 99.9 percent of the Middle East lands. Israel represents one-tenth of one percent of the landmass. But that's too much for the Arabs. They want it all. And that is ultimately what the fighting in Israel is about today... No matter how many land concessions the Israelis make, it will never be enough". - Joseph Farah, "Myths of the Middle East" - AND HERE; "There is no such thing as Palestine in history, absolutely not". - Professor Philip Hitti, Arab historian, 1946 - Actually he testified against the Partition Plan at the UN and was no fan of the Jewish people. AND HERE: "There is no such country as Palestine. 'Palestine' is a term the Zionists invented. There is no Palestine in the Bible. Our country was for centuries part of Syria. 'Palestine' is alien to us. It is the Zionists who introduced it". - Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi, Syrian Arab leader to British Peel Commission, 1937 - So the above quotes are from Arabs, not Jewish people or Jewish sources that can all be verified. The point is this, your simply wrong, and what you argue is NOT WHAT THE ARABS THEMSELVES BELIEVED PRIOR TO THE 1960'S. I HOPE THIS CLOSES THE CASE FOR YOU. YOUR WRONG, IT'S OK, YOU JUST FELL FOR THE PROPAGANDA, YOU WOULDN'T BE THE FIRST.

shame on them for making this site -we are the most moral army in the world and we fight against an army that hides in schools-day care centers-and hospitals and also uses ambulances and u.n. vehicles to transport weapons- what should we do -sit back and let them kill us-- sorry---you put yourself in our soldiers shoes and lets see what you do

the real true war criminals are the ones who hide inside schools -day care centersand hospitals -also use ambulances and un vehicles to transport weapons----