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Show me the money
Asaf Gefen
Published: 20.11.10, 14:14
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1. THE US POLICY -
Arn. ,   Sweden.   (11.20.10)
IS NOT FRIENDSHIP TO ISRAEL !!!. IF IT WHERE THEY WOULD SELL THE F-35s WITHOUT DEMANDS. FURTHER - THE ISRAELI PM WILL END UP FAILING ANF FALLING - NOTHING ELSE - It appears that at the end of the day, and after all the commotion, Netanyahu will end up doing the right thing about the freeze for all the wrong reasons. But why complain? After all, this past week we realized that if we fail to achieve peace through our brains, it shall arrive through the wallet. After all, words like “principles,” “land of our forefathers” and “Minister Gilad Erdan” are merely a matter of price. When you realize that Israel’s leadership is not a determined ideologist, but rather, a prostitute with expensive taste in combat diamonds, everything looks much more optimistic. With someone like that we can do business. -MAY GOD PROTECT ISRAEL FROM THIS PM. Arn.
2. geffen shame
alexi   (11.20.10)
What acynical olmert letter of defeatism-geffen mocks bibi. Well, it is apparent that all PMs face great pressure from US divided interests-oil vs moral. Bibi in uncertain and sincerely relies on the group of 7 to help with his decisons. its better than the shmuck olmert who took the 2006 decision to fight hezbollah on his own as well as not responding to hamas rockets for a few years except for hitting barak's specialty-empty buildings. In terms of letter assurances from obama, they are worthless same like bush's letter to sharon which obama rejected because of changing times.. F35s etc will take too long to get there to iran so forget it.
3. The Freeze
Jeff Grill ,   Phoenix, Arizona   (11.20.10)
Netanyahu must say NO to the freeze - even if he realizes that by agreeing to the freeze, the Palestinians still would not sit at the negotiating table. It must be made clear in unequivocal terms that Jerusalem will NEVER be divided and that the Jordan Valley will never be vacated by the IDF. It would be best for Israel to annex Judea and Samaria once and for all. Now is the time to defy Obama.
4. Bibi just don,t wan,t to be disguised by Obama
Ariel   (11.20.10)
5. an disgusting article
hermin ,   haifa, israel   (11.20.10)
It seems that the author is quite experienced in the brothel customs and deeds. A part of the press is pressing fecals. This article is full of it. It has no other value than to make the author remarked.
6. Leftists would sell us out for nothing.
Terry ,   Eilat - Israel   (11.20.10)
So what do you call someone who gives it away for nothing? Netanyahu is indeed a prostitute but not for the reasons in this article. Then again, most of our politicians are no different. Shas would sell the Torah - does anyone doubt that? Kadima? Now here you' re talking about real prostitutes, anything to get back into power including collusion with our worst enemies. Not one in a hundred of our politicians is not for sale & for a lot less than a fighter jet. I wrote the other day but it sticks in my head - when you look at a map these days, instead of Israel, it says, ''FOR SALE''
7. better to have just bent over?
Danny   (11.20.10)
8. Some Settlers already looking to relocate to avoid rush
Bloodyscot ,   Dallas, Texas   (11.20.10)
Its looking more like a peace deal is coming and 60,000 settlers may soon be looking at relocating, while others will get a 40yr lease on land from PA. Land prices in Israel will soon skyrocket, so many are already quitely buying to beat the rush.
9. No peace with "Bibi" !
Salma ,   Palestine   (11.20.10)
10. Let's get a few things straight.
Terry ,   Eilat - Israel   (11.20.10)
Netanyahu didn't ask for anything. The ''incentive'' package was offered by the Americans. The Obama administration is desperate for direct talks to begin, considering that it was Obama himself who screwed it up in the first place, they need some kind of success. American foreign policy is a shambles, failing everywhere. Continuing the freeze probably won't get talks going anyway, the Palestinians are not interested in negotiations. Their plan is a unilateral declaration with UN support. It seems that the terms of this incentive package are not clear. Where is the letter of confirmation? It looks like everyone is a liar - Clinton is a liar, Netanyahu is a liar, the State Dept. hides it's lies with diplomatic BS language. I bet the US State Dept. has a hundred lawyers working on a document that essentially says nothing & leaves them room to renege. Netanyahu lied too - he tried to sell the deal under false pretenses. This whole thing stinks. It's a lousy deal no matter the terms. Obama cannot be trusted. Sadly, we cannot trust Netanyahu & his side-kick Ehud Barak either. Personally, I tend to believe that the planes are not for free & the freeze is meant to include Jerusalem. The Obama administration is essentially threatening us & black-mailing us while making it look like a bribe. We are being set-up. Netanyahu should tell Obama to go to hell, diplomatically, of course.
11. By the way, why are you insulting prostitutes?
Terry ,   Eilat - Israel   (11.20.10)
Comparing prostitutes to our politicians is unfair & insulting. Prostitutes have far more integrity than our politicians.
12. The most anti-Semitic article ever on ynet!
Roy Edwards ,   Stockton, CA   (11.20.10)
This is the most anti-Semitic article that I have read on ynet! It is absolutely terrible! It sadly ties in what we used to joke about about Jews loving money and more loyal to money than to anything else. We understand that some Jews have a pathological problem of self-hatred, but this really hits it on the head. I just wondering if this was inspired by the Quran or by Mein Kampf...
13. Principles
Leon Rogson ,   Los Angeles, CA USA   (11.20.10)
If Israel had principles it would not be talking with Abu Mazen, who has had blood on his hands since before Munich. At least, Israel is a high priced principle seller, not a cheap one, like the author of this hatchet job seems to want. Leon
14. Israel for sale
Michael ,   Madison,NJ USA   (11.20.10)
It is a disgrace that Israel sells her honor for a few planes. Don't you have any principals? Planes come and go but the land remains.
15. Bibi got played
Rachel ,   US   (11.20.10)
And he tried to play his cabinet. There are reports the US now wants payment for the jets. Bibi's lies caught up with him and he looks like an idiot waiting on this magical letter.
16. A promise from Obama is just chat
Ilan ,   Ariel   (11.20.10)
Obama would not honor the promises made by his predecessor because they were not in writing. When dealing with someone who is a man of his word an oral promise is binding. When dealing with a habitual liar even a contract is barely sufficient.
17. Asaf Gefen supports this immoral building freeze?
Steve   (11.20.10)
Gefen wrote: "It appears that at the end of the day, and after all the commotion, Netanyahu will end up doing the RIGHT THING (emphasis mine) about the freeze for all the wrong reasons." What is doing the right thing for all the wrong reasons according to Gefen? If Israel paid the Americans (a building freeze is a form of payment) instead of accepting money from the Americans Gefen would see justice in implementing another immoral building freeze? Netanyahu is "phenomenal as a brothel manager." What is Gefen?
18. No piece of Israel with Bibi!
Salma, Palestine   (11.20.10)
19. #6, #10 Terry - Well said!
Marcella   (11.20.10)
I have little to add, being in a state of complete puzzlement at how this government is allowed to get away with all this. The situation is very clear, even to those of us thousands of miles away. The political games, as outlined by Terry, should be obvious to everyone. But not even the settlers seem to do more than talk against the freeze - as if being able to build would matter at a time when the PM is giving their land away. (To build more houses for the Arabs when they move in?) Tel Avivians are concerned that Gaza rockets may reach their pretty condos. But if they connect land surrender to violence, they don't seem to be doing anything against the plan for a much significant withdrawal. ~~~~~~~~~ By the way, no Arab participation in the talks is necessary because they are well represented by the USA. The US will determine Israel's future borders within the next three months. If no agreement with Israel is reached, the US will support the Arabs' unilateral independence. Unless Israel annexes the territories, you can consider them already lost. ~~~~~~~~~ If the Arabs had attacked to capture those territories, Israelis would have offered their lives to fight back. But since this same procedure is being done with diplomatic anaesthesia - no reaction! This passivity or resignation to what's coming does not reflect the Jewish spirit that fought so hard to reconstitute Israel and to protect it over the years. What happened to that fighting spirit?
20. The democratic mouthing of the left
David ,   USA/ISRAEL/EGYPT   (11.20.10)
I wonder how Asaf Gefen would feel if someone called his Mother or Father. A Jewish money hungry prostitute and a phenomenal brothel manager.? You are disgusting as a reporter and as a human
21. Those tantalizing jets!
Sy Dill ,   Providence, RI USA   (11.20.10)
Three points;all from conjectures. 1-The jets won't be available for a couple of years. Useless. 2-It is conditioned on signing a peace agreement with the PA 3-There will be constrictions on its usage (i.e. only for `defensive 'purposes. Where is Netanyahu going with this? From a friend and supporter of the PM.
22. #6,11. Go Terry, go. Thank you.
tanya ,   tel aviv israel   (11.20.10)
23. Been obvious: Netanyahu+Peace=Oxymoron
Nour ,   One-State   (11.20.10)
24. Mr Gefen are you working for Hamas? or George Soros?
Rosie   (11.20.10)
I started to read and was wondering if I am reading an article written by Ahmadenijan or a member of the Hamas. This is DISGUSTING and very sad that it was written by a JEW. It is disgusting that YNET published this article. What is Gefen's proposal? Just give it all back and let the Arabs kill everyone and establish a country in place of the home of the Jewish people???
25. I have more respect for the Arabs now...
BJL ,   usa   (11.20.10)
They would never whore themselves out of land like this. Bring down Bibi's gov. Shas, are you listening? Or are you just a whore too?
26. Who's the real whore here?
PROUD JEW ,   Jerusalem   (11.20.10)
The real whore here is the pathetic 'jew' author of this anti-semitic article. He shamefully sales a few anti-semitic words (and his soul) to the jew-haters in order to find favor their eyes and kiss their boots.
27. Asaf Gefen
Norman Cone ,   Florida, USA   (11.20.10)
just wrote the most inane and moronic article I read anywhere for a quite long time, Shame on him and on Ynet for publishing such rubbish.
28. NR 10.
Arn. ,   Sweden.   (11.20.10)
The Obama administration is essentially threatening us & black-mailing us while making it look like a bribe Terry , Eilat - Israel (11.20.10) EXACTLY !!!. Arn.
29. I wish English was my Mother Tongue.
tanya ,   tel aviv israel   (11.20.10)
It would be much easier for me to express my disgust for this ugly, prepaid "opinion".
30. Our Homeland is not for sale. Period.
Chaim ,   Israel   (11.20.10)
Bibi is acting like a prostitute by offering our land for money and things. It is disgusting and goes a long way to explain why many people of good will aren't sure this is really our land. After all, if Israel is really ours, why would we even consider giving away a single inch of it for any amount of money? How much money would America take for California, New York or Oklahoma...? Our Homeland is not for sale. Not even a single inch. Not a single grain of sand. For any amount of money and/or goods. Period.
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