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Abbas: No Jerusalem construction freeze, no talks
Ronen Medzini
Published: 21.11.10, 12:40
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1. THEN NO HOME!!!! GO BACK TO JORDAN!! AND SAUDI ARABIA!
David ,   Haifa Israel   (11.21.10)
2. "we shall not accept it.''
Harry ,   Jerusalem   (11.21.10)
So what is new.!!!! What have the fictitious PLO, ever agree on besides, NEVER AGREEING.The time, money, effort, blood, wasted on this subject, is reaching its End Point.
3. Translation
Danny   (11.21.10)
"oh shit our bluff is being called. Quick make up another excuse not to talk"
4. Sounds like a stalemate to me
Eric ,   Tel Aviv & NY   (11.21.10)
Israel can only do it if the US expressly says no freeze in Jerusalem. Abbas says only will do it if there is a freeze in Jerusalem. Seems that Abbas is again playing the stall and fail game like he did for the 9 months of the 10 month freeze.
5. Once for a change!
Ricardo Macher ,   Karnei Shomron IL   (11.21.10)
What may happen if we tell Abbas (Abu Mazen) "So you don't want to sit? Perfect! That's OK with us"!!!! As for Shas, I do respect Rav Ovadyia so I won't comment!
6. Pleeeese, shut up for a while
Nora Tel Aviv   (11.21.10)
What the Arabs are trying now is not called talking, it`s called blackmailing. Blackmailing is the art of takeing without fighting. Israel should be against Arab blackmailing and wait until they start talkng .
7. here it goes again!
nadav ,   tlv   (11.21.10)
the arabs obviously don't want to engage it talks, they are stalling, thinking that Obama and Bibi will clash and ruin ties between their countries. The US and Israel should not fall for it. The Arabs living in the West Bank should be happy to get whatever we give them! they lost the war, they have no backing and they have NO historical claim! Also, what did they during the last 10 month freeze? nothing!
8. This has become a fiasco.
Terry ,   Eilat - Israel   (11.21.10)
What a joke. You really get the impression that this is amateur hour at the White House. It's not much better here in Israel. The Palestinians are of course, acting as usual, no one has high expectations from them. All the pressure from America is on Israel. The Palestinians are let off the hook no matter how unreasonable, intransigeant, uncooperative, or lacking in good faith. They can't act in good faith anyway since their intentions are, let us say, less than honourable. Netanyahu fell into a trap. Evidently, our spineless PM is not so smart. The Obama administration & the US State Dept. have shown themselves to be not just bungling amateurs & incompetents but also ill-intentioned. I think it's time for Netanyahu to get some backbone & call everyone's bluff.
9. NO such thing as "palestinians"!
Jordan = Fakestan   (11.21.10)
on March 31, 1977, the Dutch newspaper Trouw published an interview with Palestine Liberation Organization executive committee member Zahir Muhsein. Here's what he said: The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct "Palestinian people" to oppose Zionism. For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan.
10. Jerusalem is not on talk
Anna M Sedda ,   italy-Rome   (11.21.10)
and Abu Mazen should have understand by now that on Jerusalem he can NOT decide a yota...why insisting on something you cannot have?Get a life!!!!!
11. Abbas manipulating America and Israel
Brod ,   USA   (11.21.10)
It is time America and Israel wake up and stop being treated like idiots to the manipulations of the PA Islamist-Jihadists. The biggest mistake made by the Obama administration is appearing like a weak zombie idiot to the Islamist-Jihadist world. The latter now thinks they have the former in their pocket as easy prey for their Taqiyya (deceits) and manipulations to do their dirty work of crusading their Jihadism on Israel. And the mistake made by Netanyahu is being manipulated by Barak and the Leftists to join the Obama's bus for the ride. Now we know the agenda of the dark forces. Unfortunately, the Obama's bus is speeding on a one-way street to a precipice for Israel. It is not too late for Israel to tell the bus driver to stop and get out of the bus. Israel has the power of Free Choice. It is time to stop being fooled, intimidated, and manipulated to do the dirty work of the Islamist-Jihadists. Israel should open its eyes and realize that Judea and Samaria are Israel's GOD-GIVEN and GOD-RESTORED LIBERATED HISTORIC HOMELAND-LAND OF ISRAEL. Why should Israel give it away to the wolves and tigers of the region just because they demand to usurp it? Despite what the godless Leftists say, Judea and Samaria are Israel's land since ancient time. Israel must never give away any of its liberated historic homeland no matter what the world of the dark forces say. Israel should discard the 2-State crap invented by the world of AntiSemites and Islamist-Jihadists to fool Israel into giving away part of its tiny homeland as a harbinger for the Islamist-Jihadists to obliterate Israel from the region in the future. It is time for Israel to say NO, NO, NO to the deceits, threats and manipulations of the dark forces.
12. Palis want all of Israel not Jerusalem.
(11.21.10)
13. And just for laughs ....
Terry ,   Eilat - Israel   (11.21.10)
Take a look at the new Latma.tv clip on YouTube .......
14. We know this, but still make an offer of compromise.
rebecca ,   Modiin   (11.21.10)
What has Abbas offered. Obama you are wasting our time. I just hope the world notices that we are trying to make peace with some compromises. Abbas continues to make demands.
15. So what's new?
David ,   USA/ISRAEL/EGYPT   (11.21.10)
Get rid of Ehud Barak, and keep building, don't waste time on a fantasy dream. build build and build
16. Let's See What Happens
emanon ,   USA   (11.21.10)
So . . . Israel peacefully expands its cities on land already part of its country . . . Israel does not kill anyone because of the construction, jobs are created and the economy increases because of it. The arabs on the other hand, get violent over the Israeli construction, kill people, demand land that is not theirs and in general, continue their war against all progress and anything Jewish while doing nothing to bring their own people out of poverty. Guess who the world will paint as the bad guys?
17. #14 Rebecca you should try peace between jews
Haim ,   Tel Aviv   (11.21.10)
There is no chance of peace as we cant even make peace between us. Religious hate seculars and seculars hate religious. This country is heading for a civil war and i for one will fight for freedom and democracy anf freedom from religious coercion.
18. Not so subtle ....
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (11.21.10)
.... but did you all see the transition? All of a sudden, it's not a "construction freeze." It is a "Jerusalem construction freeze." Not going to happen. Israel's got pretty good fighter planes; we don't need what's in the American arsenal, certainly not five years from now. Neither does Israel need the promise of a United States veto in the Security Council. Taiwan had a written guarantee of a U.S. veto in the Security Council. For all the good it did them. TIme to tell both the United States and Abbas to go to bloody hell, and build, build, build.
19. strange world where the weaker side is setting the terms
(11.21.10)
for negotiations. Why would Israel even need them to talk to them? I honestly don't understand arab logic. they're basically saying "either stop building or we won't talk to you while you continue building".
20. All who didn't think this was coming raise your hand.
Ken Quinn ,   Amsterdam   (11.21.10)
Now go sit in the corner of the class.
21. Obama the racist
Israel Israeli ,   Tel Aviv   (11.21.10)
The streets of Haiti are filled with people dying of cholera. The UN is begging for 150 million dollars to save these people. Obama refuses to give this money to save the dying black people of Haiti because last week he gave 150 million to rich Arab Muslims like Abbas.
22. 17 - Haim from Tel Aviv, ot is it Haifa?
Eyal ,   USA ISRAEL   (11.21.10)
Make up your mind where you live, or do you even live in Israel? Go support your Peace Now idiots and stop wasting our time here, more people support to build and build. Go read the Torah for ones in your life and maybe you will get it. You are on the wrong side. I am not religious, but Jewish and do not hate the religious, so speak for yourself. To me it seems you hate the religious, so try to get along you hypocrite.
23. No freeze on Pal violence? No freeze on house building.
Brian Cohen ,   Judean Peoples Front   (11.21.10)
We build houses. They kill us. The Palestinians are yet again seizing the opportunity to miss yet another opportunity. Bibi should be adamant - the amount of construction freeze will be commensurate with a mutual Palestinian freeze on violence against Israelis. For each rock or molotov cocktail thrown at a car, a house construction permit is issued. For each rocket or mortar round fired from Gaza, or for each shooting incident, 100 permits will be issued. The result will most likely be a construction boom, since the Palestinians simply cannot stop their violence, and it shows that they really do not want peace with Israel. They want peace without us. Ain't gonna happen.
24. no recognition of the Jewish Staate of Israel - no freeze-no
Gerry   (11.21.10)
no recognition of the Jewish Staate of Israel - no freeze-no talks
25. IQ comparison
Michael ,   Haifa   (11.21.10)
He is smarter than Netanyahu, but that doesn't call for too much effort
26. Peace
John ,   Sunbury USA   (11.21.10)
This just proves that Abbas does not want peace. If he refuses to talk, than he is not interested. All they want is the destruction of Israel.
27. Abie, we have a saying
Aryeh ,   Bat Ayin   (11.21.10)
Tafasta Meruba Lo tafasta, if you try to grab too much you will hold nothing
28. Palestine Without Jerusalem
Salma ,   Palestine   (11.21.10)
Like a soul without a mind, in a body without a heart. We Will Not Give Up On Life ,We Will Not Give Up On Jerusalem
29. 2 more years of the manchurian candidate
(11.21.10)
30. It was Yitzhak Shamir who said
Phepps rides again ,   Netanya   (11.21.10)
Ha'aravim yatsilo otanu
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