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Ahmadinejad urges girls to marry at 16
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Published: 21.11.10, 13:35
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31. To: No. 26
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (11.22.10)
I don't know how to break this to you, but Jews do not believe in the concept of "original sin." I may get around to answering your comment about Adan's "DNA change," but it will have to keep until I can stop laughing so hard.
32. #29 Mahmoot
Hal ,   Usa   (11.22.10)
Speaking of shallow Mahmood, do you ever read your posts before sending them ? Not only do you make a fool out of yourself intellectually, but your comments are so patently thin as to make the reason for you to spend so much of your free time here, away from the pizza store so thoroughly wasted. Better for you to spend more time at a library or maybe the famed British Museum to flesh-out your pathetic lack of facts or intellectual acuity. Just saying....................
33. To: No. 29
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (11.22.10)
Teenage pregnancy and abortions among the Jewish population in the United States is statistically insignificant. Meaning it is very low. That said, I point out to you that, unlike Iran, teenage pregnancy and abortion are not crimes either in the United States or Israel. Let's look at some other, very interesting statistics: In 2009, the infant mortality rate in Iran was a shameful 35.78 per 1,000 live births. In 2010, the rate increased to a staggering 43.45 per 1,000 live births. That's an increase of 21.44%. Israel's infant mortality rate? 4.17 per 1,000 live births. And the only reason it is so high is because Bedouin women do not commonly give birth in hospitals. Shall we look at the statistics for maternal death in childbirth? In 2009, Iran's was 140 per 100,000 live births. In 2009, Israel's was 6 per 100,000 live births. It probably would have been lower except for all those Bedouin women who continue to give birth in tents, attended only by midwives. I'm not being excessively critical. I am merely questioning why on earth a country would choose to pursue nuclear capacity instead of working to improve medical care that would reduce infant mortality and maternal deaths in childbirth. My morale is pretty high; thanks very much for your concern.
34. SO MUCH FOR YOUR STATISTICS.......#33
MAHMOOD ,   LONDON-UK   (11.22.10)
So much for your staistics.The alleged fact on Jewish population in not the criteria here.Why do you look at from the point of view of Jewish people.Don't you care for USA as a whole living there and enjoying their country?Shame on you!! My point is valid not only from the point of Iran,but even your own religion.I have read numerous articles about the condition of teenagers in USA and other Western countries and wonder whether you would always confine your findings about Jews only. Your being critical or not does not make any difference to Iran's stand on Nuclear issue.Either Middle East will observe a non-nuclear region or remain prepared for the scenerio that you all know about.Iran will definitely excercise the option should it becomes neccessary.They have the capacity but as declared by their leader that Iran does not need Nuclear weapons to defend itself.But that is not an end to the topic altogether for ever.The choice will be excercised depending on the circumstances,and by the way,the Nuclear plants are operational unlike your imagination that they are affected in someway.Let us reach sometimes early December to hear what the Iranians have in store for those imagining that they have succeeded in inturrupting its operations.
35. 30,31 Sarah B., USA: Jews who read the Torah and believe it
Rivkah   (11.23.10)
believe in Adam's sin. It is clearly written in black and white. There are Jews who are Jews and then there are Jews who call themselves Jews but are not. What circumstances would I find an abortion to be permissible? It is permissible by law for anyone in most countries. Do you mean what sort of circumstances would I find an abortion to be conscionable and permissible by YHWH? Scriptures says that in times of famine and war, Hebrew women cast off their children and even ate them. That means they aborted their babies because of catastrophic circumstances that bringing a child into would have been to horrific to imagine. If the mother's life is in danger or in cases of rape or incest, that is probably acceptable to YHWH. However, I have met women who chose to give the unborn child life even when that meant almost certain death such as in cervical cancer mothers. But astonishingly, YHWH usually keeps the mother alive. If the mother has a heart defect and cannot survive labor, I believe YHWH would not condemn the woman for an abortion. But I have known women who preferred to go through the valley of the shadow of death giving birth rather than to deny the unborn child life. TV preacher James Robison is the child of rape. His mother was raped and chose to give birth instead of having an abortion. She raised the child and he became a TV preacher who helps poor people all over the world with his ministry. Abraham and Sarah the Patriarchs were half brother and sister, so Isaac was a child conceived in incest. Should Isaac have been aborted? Where would you and I be now if he had been? Unborn, for sure.
36. #34 Mood
Hal ,   Usa   (11.23.10)
You are an impulsive pizza guy. The subject being about your hero wanting sixteen yearolds to marry thus creating more Islamic zombies and you turn this into a nuclear arms forum. Are you daft or is this a result of your brains getting too much heat from the pizza oven?
37. To: No. 35
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (11.23.10)
Rivkah, if anyone sinned, it was Eve. Adam was just a dupe. Jews do not believe in original sin. Period. Full stop. You can believe in it if you want, but it shouldn't be a problem for you; you are not Jewish. Look up toxemia and eclampsia. You cannot undergo vaginal birth with the soaring blood pressures that accompany both. Neither can you be put under anaesthesia. And for all the talk of so-called "partial-birth abortions," the fact remains that very few women voluntarily undergo third-trimester abortions. But if the choice is between living and dying, the mother's life must always take precedence. If she has small children already, isn't it better for her children to grow up with a mother but having lost a sibling than the other way around? "TV preacher who helps poor people all over the world with his ministry." Yeah, right. How? By getting convincing them to send him their last nickels and dimes? By declaring that if he does not raise "X" number of dollars, G-d will call him home (remember Oral Robertson). Please stop using a Jewish name and passing yourself off as Jewish. The Jews I know do not watch Christian evangelical TV preachers. The only people I know who watch those preachers usually watch Jerry Springer as well. What does that say to you about them? Jewish definitions of incest stem from Leviticus and Deuteronomy. Abraham and Sarah predate the giving of the Torah by several generations. So your "incest" example completely fails. Sorry. By the way -- your scriptures may talk about cannibalism; mine do not. That has always been repulsive to Jews .... in fact, it is because of the practices of the day by non-Hebrews that Jews proscribed the practice completely. Get your facts straight.
38. 28 Mark from Georgia, USA: An early life abortion is not
Rivkah   (11.23.10)
the only cause of breast cancer. Collection of nickel and other toxic heavy metals in the breasts can be the cause of the breast cancer. Ionizing radiation from MRI's, mammograms, X-Rays, microwaves, etc. can cause breast cancer. Women should have sonograms instead of mammograms because of that hazard. Dr. Loraine Day at www.drday.com talks about the hazards of mammograms. It is likely your mother had one or more or many D&C's which is what women whose menses was late had before abortions were legalized. The difference is that a D&C is done before pregnancy is determined or it would have been an illegal abortion in the old days. A doctor from Bulgaria named Dr. Stephan Pentschev said D&C's were the choice of birth control in communist countries when he lived in Bulgaria. D&C's were performed during the first trimester of the pregnancy, putting the women at risk for breast cancer. So you mother likely did get breast cancer from early life D&C's she would not mention to you or even to her husband in all likelihood.
39. # 29
Birdi ,   Israel   (11.23.10)
Nope, I'm not on water but on land. (promise)
40. # 34
Birdi ,   Israel   (11.23.10)
11/23/2010----01.13 a.m. "Troubles stop Iran enrichment." oh dear oh dear. Such bad luck for Iran !!
41. 37 Sarah B., USA/Israel: If you hate American preachers so
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much who put themselves at risk for defending the Jews and raising money to help Israel, why don't you return the $8 million dollars Pastor John Hagee just gave to Israel for various charitable causes? Why don't you return the millions and millions of dollars Rabbi Eckstein has collected from American Christian donors to help Israel in many ways including aliyahs and orphanages and disaster relief and stocking bomb shelters and feeding the poor and clothing the elderly and so many other good things for Israel too numerous to mention? Pastor John Hagee just met with Prime Minister Netanyahu because the PM appreciates all he and other evangelicals and Messianics do for Israel. When is the last time you met with Prime Minister Netanyahu to be thanked for contributions to Israel? Like it or not, the two sticks of Judah and Israel are coming back together again to be one nation under the Jewish Messiah when he comes as the Lion of Judah.
42. To: No. 41
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (11.23.10)
Not my money to return, is it, now, "Rivkah?" I don't collect money for Israel from anyone who isn't Jewish, and I am a wolverine when it comes to raising money for Israel. I just stick within my own community. Me, personally? I don't care all that much for people who are determined to convert Jews to Christianity for their own perverted reasons. The evangelical Christians who collect money for Israel are trying to hasten the "second" coming. Jews are still waiting for the first. So why don't you go crawl off somewhere, get back on your anti-psychotic medications and leave us the hell alone. You are too weird for words. You are not Jewish. Ours is a very small and exclusive club, and you do not belong, "Rivkah."
43. To: No. 34
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (11.23.10)
Your clumsy attempt to sidestep the question is laughable. The fact is that there are vast sociological differences between American Jews and the rest of the American population, and Jews, who represent 2% of the American population, are statistically insignificant, particularly when it comes to teenage pregnancy and prostitution. You have not addressed the issue of why Iran is backpedaling so swiftly in the categories of maternal deaths in childbirth and infant mortality. Most of the countries in the world seem to be heading in the other direction; the direction of improved statistics. Then again -- I'm not Iranian. Not my problem. You ARE Iranian. It IS your problem, whether you choose to recognize it or remain with your head in the sand.
44. To: Birdi at No. 40
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (11.23.10)
LOTS of troubles! Thanks to Stuxnet, the very elegant and sophisticated computer worm that has baffled all the experts. The fact is that Israel has shut down the Iranian nuclear program completely without a single loss of life and without a single cruise missile being fired. And if Stuxnet has been released, it's a pretty safe bet that there is something far, far better in the Israeli cyber arsenal. I find it rather amusing that Iran continues to beat the drums about a promised death and destruction of Israel. All that talk about "blood running in the streets" and "cutting off the hands" is kind of laughable considering how thoroughly Israel has shut down Iran by merely sending a worm into their command and control systems. Nearly all of Iran's computer installations have been infected, included those systems which are entirely self-contained and shut off from the outside world. Without firing a shot. SWEEEET!
45. 28 Mark from Georgia: A D&C is Dilation and Curettage
Rivkah   (11.23.10)
of the uterus. It is a scraping of the walls of the uterus to remove the contents.
46. 42 Sarah B., USA/Israel: Tch, tch. I don't convert anyone
Rivkah   (11.23.10)
to anything since I am not YHWH. I wish I were, but I have to settle for the Ruach HaKodesh in my heart. Sounds like you need some of that. I don't fit into clubs, myself, since I don't have the motherhood union card for acceptance. I preferred not to bring children into such an evil world as this. Some of the Jews who worked as volunteers at hospitals I worked at were elderly when I was young, some with numbers on their arms from the Nazi camps of WWII. They would not bring children into such an evil world and so were childless. That made sense to me. Try as I might, there was no guarantee I could protect children from evil. How heartbreaking it must be for you to discover you could not protect your children from evil, losing one to a Palestinian terrorist. At least I don't have the burden of that heavy a load of sorrow.
47. # 46
Birdi ,   Israel   (11.23.10)
Rivkah, the last sentance of your talkback is a very cheap & unsavory shot.
48. # 40. Sarah B.
Birdi ,   Israel   (11.23.10)
Yes, very sweet indeed. You can't beat Jewish brains, can you ?
49. #38; Rivkah, I know you didn't mean it
Mark from Georgia ,   USA   (11.23.10)
But my Mom was old school she was a virgin when married to the best of my knowledge. At the risk of aging myself my parents met at a USO dance during WW2. She was the most, what I would call old fashion person I've ever known. She had no vices, she did not curse smoke and rarely had a drink. We had the same bottles of booze in my house for 15 years at a time. Really I don't remember many of their friends being drinkers either. I do remember her having a D & C when I was about 12 or 13 years old. That would have been after having two sons. I must confess it never has occurred to me that it might not have been just a D & C. But others might be insulted by your remarks. It implies my Mother slept around before she was married, she didn't. If you had known her you would know that was in all likelihood true. Naturally, I never asked her such a question, it would never have occurred to me to ask. But I think you know what I'm saying. I did feel a moment of anger when I first read it, but don't think you meant to be insulting to me. Have a good day.
50. 49 Mark from Georgia: I did not mean in any way to
Rivkah   (11.24.10)
imply your mother was not holy in any way. It is wonderful that you had her noble example in life. A lot of women did not know that a D&C was an abortion. Oftentimes, it was not an abortion, but just a way to cleanse the uterus if the menses did not start. Maybe some knew it was an abortion. My mother said women in the ladies club of officers' wives in Germany where her husband was stationed with the US Army talked about having D&C's as a normal topic of conversation. It was not the shame an abortion was and is since it was not called an abortion and no one would admit that is what it was or could be. Abortion did not have the law on its side until 1973 which is what is so offensive about abortion. There is no power or authority except of God. God does not want abortion written into legal rights of women in my opinion. Aborting a baby should be for serious medical reasons of the mother's life being in danger, incest, rape, etc. not for birth control.
51. 47 Birdi, Israel: The truth offends you? Sarah has suffered
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enormously from the death of her son. Would you want to suffer similarly? I would not. But worse than that would be suffering because one's children rejected the Torah. I don't know how that kind of sorrow could be endured, knowing the children you love will be eternally separated from YHWH.
52. # 51
Birdi ,   Israel   (11.24.10)
No Rivkah, the truth does not offend me.( Your truth is not my truth.) Maybe you don't realize that you are rubbing salt into Sarah B's heart- wrenching wound. I suggest you try to be more diplomatic here in your words. BTW as far as I understand her late son did not reject the Torah & if he did, it is not up to you to criticize that fact.
53. 52 Birdi, Israel: You are reading things into posts that
Rivkah   (11.24.10)
are not there. What you really are doing is expressing hate for me personally instead of reading the posts and making sensible comments and helpful suggestions. Perhaps you should skip reading my posts since they seem to trigger something toxic in you that is not helpful to others at all.
54. # 53
Birdi ,   Israel   (11.24.10)
How on earth can I hate you when I dont know you, havent met you ?? You seem to have a knack of putting both your feet into other people's lives. This is a news website for politics & Israeli news, its best to stick to & comment what is written in the articles.
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