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Palestinian official: Western Wall not Jewish
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Published: 24.11.10, 17:56
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31. Western wall not Jewish
JUDAH THE LION   (11.24.10)
Even the Vatican is Islamic.Twisted mind
32. Solomon an d King David were Muslims
According to Muslims ,   Moshe Rabanu,King   (11.24.10)
What twisted mind
33. Another provocation against peace
Dani ,   Amsterdam NL   (11.24.10)
They really don't want peace with us they only wish is weep out us from our Holy sites and than kick us out from Israel . Unfortunately this time peace talks would led us to a new war, too much pressure against us.
34. Wall not part of Soloman's temple but add later, when is ???
Bloodyscot ,   Dallas, Texas   (11.24.10)
The wall is believed to have been started by Herod to expand the Temple Mount (for 2nd Temple) in 19BC, then added to or rebuild even higher in the 7th century, with more added to height over the years. Only the first 7 rows of stone in the wall are in question, were they put there by Herod or later by Muslim reusing stones from other parts of Temple Mount. The problem is that to even question the wall's builder and timeline is a political firestorm.
35. right is right
JUDAH THE LION   (11.24.10)
The ten commanments came from MOUNT SINAI.Your Quran came from where? By a Jewish rabbi who wrote your quran under threat of your sword by Mohammed. Jerusalem is ours and we will not change Jerusalem for your MECCA & MEDINA and all the Islamic countries.
36. History is what remains in the books.
djay ,   UK   (11.24.10)
It's as simple as that. Of course, no one believes such a report, as well as no one believes that pius 12 was a saint, or no one believes that gaz chambers were actually used to kill insects..... today! Just fast forward 250 fifty years and imagine what the consequences of such a report could be. Palestinians claiming "we have this 250 years old document PROVING that this place has always belonged to arabs" Imagine the kids saying "Shoah couldn't have existed, humans are not able of such horrors, it's just a tale, like Moses opening the red sea..." The point is that with people keeping the pressure to destroy proofs and create fake evidence that it didn't exist, it could very well be theory against theory in the remote future: "there are theories that say jews have perished in the Shoah, and theories that say they invented this to blame the world".
37. Is the study published?
David K from Philly ,   Philly, PA   (11.24.10)
I haven't seen the study. No one has. I'd love to see it. All those 5 pages that cover 5000 years of history. Hey Pals... how about some peer review before you issue statements? Dave K from Philly
38. 32-On the nail...
Froike ,   Brooklyn NY   (11.24.10)
Islam is based on pure disortion of truth and Torah. Islam states that Ishmael, not Isaac was the Akeidah
39. #27
Joshua ,   USA   (11.24.10)
Good luck with that one ! :)))))))))))
40. 5 page report LOL
Ilan ,   Ariel   (11.24.10)
My third grade daughter also hands in 5 page reports. I'm sure that this report was about the same level of depth and insight. Of course, by the time my daughter is in high school I'll see better quality work. I guess the author of this report has yet to pass matriculation.
41. #6 - just because you admittedly stole it...
William ,   Israel   (11.24.10)
doesn't mean you have the right to keep it. Stolen property reverts back to its owners. You know that. That's why the Koran makes clear both the holiness of Jerusalem to Jews and the return of Jews to present-day Israel.
42. #27 salma - wrong is wrong...
eporue ,   europe   (11.24.10)
god/allah did NOT give the bible to any arabs... god/allah did NOT order you, to built a mosque or two on the temple mount... ...and the mamluks came from turkey/egypt, the kurd salah-din, too, his mother was greek, faik... sorry, what came from "arab" ? ...only your dreaming mohammed, and thats it. but its ok, just keep your finger off other peoples sites.
43. was temple quarry really found?
observer   (11.24.10)
The largest stone is said to measure 0.69 x 0.94 x 1.65 m. It has been suggested that these stones may have been used to build the Western Wall, but that is doubtful. The measurements given are of an unfinished stone. These quarry blocks needed trimming to make them suitable for building and that would make them smaller. The average height of the stone courses in the Temple Mount walls is 104-112 cm and the unfinished stone is only 94 cm high. Another fact is identical stones were built in the southern, eastern and northern walls of the Temple Mount as well. All the work in the temple was completed in 8 years. That ultrashort time of building means that the quarries must not have been located too far from the site of building. Quarries for larger stones couldn't have hided themselves if the smaller in size stone are now conspicuosely clear. Let's go to another theory; Prophet Solaiman (called King Solmon by Jews) had the power given by God to control Jennie (Jinn) who built that great structure unattainable to human power. the same Jinni who brought the throne of the Queen of Shiba to Solaiman in eyeblinking speed. now, no archaeological evidence for Solomon's Temple has been found, the exact location of Solomon's Temple is unknown. The only information regarding the First Temple in Jerusalem is contained in the Hebrew Bible. in Deuteronomy 4:2 and 12:32, Moses commanded very explicitly that nothing is to be added to or subtracted from his law. Well!, the first temple location now is known, but an enormous problem for Jews is created. Prophet Mohammad visited the Temple of his ancestor Solmon (Solaiman) in his commercial journeys to Levant and prayed in it in his Night Journey. Jews can't claim it.
44. THE AP Printed this BS? Time to make study showing the
Lysum Orr. ,   ntheybileveit, EU   (11.24.10)
falshood of the palestinian narrative, the influx of arabs from surrounding areas at the same time as many Jews returned (1880-1948) to the existing Jewish community. 5 pages? Any Brandeis University students out there want a PhD dissertation that gets AP news column?
45. #20. Is the 2000 yr old Arch of Titus in Rome a Muslim shrin
Jacob ,   Haifa Israel   (11.24.10)
shrine as well!? You know abdullah, that God doe not like liars, and he peers into the hearts of all men and knows what they think even before they think it. So as a Muslim have some sincerity, have some honesty, quit the deceit. You think the Creator of all loves lies? The wall is the remaining piece of the Tmple detsroyed and looted by Rome in 70ce You can see an engraving to this day in Rome commemorating the fact along with thousands of coins uncovered showing "Judea capta (Judah Captured). I am not a rabbinical scholar but I have studied Torah and even from my limited knowledge I know more than you about what Jewish Literature says about the Temple and about the wall. The wall is talked about in the Mishnah (compiled until 200 ce) and the Gemarah (compiled between 200-400 in Israel, and between 300-500 in Babylonia)
46. irrelevant
(11.24.10)
even if the actual stones were placed by herrod, it was still clearly the temple mount complex, which is still the holiest site in Judaism. btw, have you gone to the tunnels next to the kotel plaza, the excavation there also clearly shows that this was the site of the complex. Who actually placed the stones there is irrelevant sophistry. The site is clearly part of the temple complex
47. Al-Aksa not muslim
Carsten Schmidt ,   Germany   (11.24.10)
Recently I heard about a report that proved that Al-Aksa is not muslim but an old Christian church that was robbed by then nomadic muslims. The report is based on the interpretation of ancient scriptures and archaeological evidence. It is about time that the Christians get their property back and that the non-believers are driven from that place.
48. EZ don't be so easy
Mike ,   Palestine   (11.24.10)
'Correct: Israel owns the place the same way that Muslim Arabs own Damascus and Amman. Land won by force of arms. ' Ok finaly we got a confession that israel occupied palestine and started to build new homes for their people or can we say settlements on palestinian lands and just for the record there nothing under the mosque this what was revealed by israel when they are digging a day after day below the mosque and found nothing!! you are saying that israeli jews unlike previous conquerors that is true they are worse because they are evicting palestinians from their roots and souls and even fom their houses into the street they dont give palestinian people permits to build on their own lands and sorry what can we say about the SEPERATION WALL that goal was to occupy more Palestinian LANDS and what about all the checkpoints around jerusalem we could possibly say that there is 100 checkpoint searching each ARAB vehicle ever single day entering jerusalem from the west bank side but there is no checkpoints from Israeli side
49. yes the Western Wall is mentioned
Paul Freedman ,   Falls Church, USA   (11.24.10)
um, for skeptics, the historical provenance of the Western Wall has been recognized by historians continuously, dating back to the Herodian era. Read your Josephus.
50. #35 Five Commandments found in Egyptian Book of the Dead
observer   (11.24.10)
"Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain....Thou shalt not kill. Thou shalt not commit adultery...Thou shalt not bear false witness against they neighbor..." - Exodus 20: 7-16 'Not have I despised god...Not have I killed...Not have I fornicated...Not have I despoiled the thing of the god...not have I defiled the wife of a man...Not have I cursed god...Not have I borne false witness'. - Egyptian Book of the Dead does that mean that Jews own half a temple. And, if the other five commandments found to be from Another Book, then Jews own nothing?
51. Stupid Palastinian claims
RAYS ,   USA   (11.24.10)
The claims like these are really stupid. But an Israeli government that does not immediately break off relations with the PA that makes them is even more stupid.
52. Tomorrow's news
Ehoop ,   UK   (11.24.10)
UNESCO agree. Time for Israel to clearly state the facts and rebut the Palestinians' incitement.
53. Muslims have no connection to Mecca and Yathrib (Medina)
Scott ,   USA   (11.24.10)
Mecca was stolen from the pagans, Medina stolen from the Jews. They should give them back! By the way, if the Muslms own the wall, where's their deed? Their bill of sale?
54. asking G-d for the Messiah
observer   (11.24.10)
they show themselves as true saints and pious children. At this point they certainly do not want to be accounted liars and blasphemers but reliable prophets, asserting that the Messiah has not yet come but will still appear. Even if all the angels and God himself publicly declared on Mount Sinai or in the temple in Jerusalem that the Messiah had come long ago and that he was no longer to be expected, God himself and all the angels would have to be considered nothing but devils.
55. chosen!, have you kept His commandments
observer   (11.24.10)
when Solomon had built the temple, had sacrificed and prayed to God, God said to him (I Kings 9:3), "I have heard your prayer and your supplications ... I have consecrated this house," etc.; but then he added shortly thereafter: "But if you turn aside from following me ... and do not keep my commandments ... then I will cut off Israel from the land which I have given them; and the house which I have consecrated for my name I will cast out of my sight; and Israel will become a proverb and a byword among all peoples."
56. facts, not fiction
observer   (11.24.10)
Herod (1st century BC) was as full-blooded Arab. He massacred the Jewish male boys to keep his dominance over the Jews. Jews didn't recognize Herod's Jewishness even he was religious Torah observant Jew, but a convert, who built the second temple and observed Jewish feasts. The whole story and its only narrative were myth. Josephus Flavus who described the temple walls and interior was himself a myth and information about him came from himself only. The Mikvahs were nothing but Roman baths, Masada's residents were fanatic thugs who robed Jewish villages before fleeing to take refuge in a citadel, they captured and didn't belong to them. The skeletons were Roman and the neatly cut hair plait was not Jewish.
57. Lie, lie, that something will remains!
Seb ,   Bs. As., Argentina   (11.24.10)
If that assertion is readen by people in places so far from the conflict as it is Argentina, people will belive because of the so well planed palestinian press avant garde. For us the jews living in countries like Argentina is very dificult to make a point in discusion with people that thoesn't know a lot of the conflict and for whom we are always the bad guys. Israel government is loosing the press war very bad.
58. everybody knows the Kotel is made from lego
zionist forever   (11.24.10)
I don't care if they say it does have a connection with jews going back thousands of years or if they say it was built by ET before he went home these people are like pathetic children and not archeologists. Arafat claimed the Temple had been built in Ramallah. This is just the latest bullshit from the PA nothing new. Abbas should show this study to Obama explain why he has a claim to Jerusalem which Israel does not he would probably fall for it.
59. #22 nor in the Torah of Moses
observer   (11.24.10)
60. No Wonder Muslim Countries Are So Far Behind
Seth ,   Washington, DC   (11.24.10)
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